replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

Hi,

I am changing my a/c compressor myself, and took it out, everything is
fine, but the belt. I have no idea where to put it. I stopped at
AutoZone, and bought a belt, but it seems like its way to long. It's 15
inches long, but when I look where the belt goes on the pully, it seems
like only 8 inches or so.

What confuses me is there is two empty pullys, one is small and about
5/6 inches wide, and the other empty one is on the driver belt, there
is the drivers belt, and then one belt is missing. It seems like the
belt could not go there, because their isn't enough room because of the
car.

I uploaded a picture of it at www.mopa.net/belt-picture.jpg

thanks so much folks!

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

On 29 Jun 2005 11:53:44 -0700, "mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am changing my a/c compressor myself, and took it out, everything is
>fine, but the belt. I have no idea where to put it. I stopped at
>AutoZone, and bought a belt, but it seems like its way to long. It's 15
>inches long, but when I look where the belt goes on the pully, it seems
>like only 8 inches or so.
>
>What confuses me is there is two empty pullys, one is small and about
>5/6 inches wide, and the other empty one is on the driver belt, there
>is the drivers belt, and then one belt is missing. It seems like the
>belt could not go there, because their isn't enough room because of the
>car.
>
>I uploaded a picture of it at www.mopa.net/belt-picture.jpg
>

you need at least a drive pulley on the engine and the pulley on
the compressor. If the compressor can swing on it's mount then it
might be used to adjust belt tension. If not then there's a third
adjustable pulley to adjust belt tension.

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

On 29 Jun 2005 11:53:44 -0700, "mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am changing my a/c compressor myself, and took it out, everything is
>fine, but the belt. I have no idea where to put it. I stopped at
>AutoZone, and bought a belt, but it seems like its way to long. It's 15
>inches long, but when I look where the belt goes on the pully, it seems
>like only 8 inches or so.
>
>What confuses me is there is two empty pullys, one is small and about
>5/6 inches wide, and the other empty one is on the driver belt, there
>is the drivers belt, and then one belt is missing. It seems like the
>belt could not go there, because their isn't enough room because of the
>car.
>
>I uploaded a picture of it at www.mopa.net/belt-picture.jpg
>

you need at least a drive pulley on the engine and the pulley on
the compressor. If the compressor can swing on it's mount then it
might be used to adjust belt tension. If not then there's a third
adjustable pulley to adjust belt tension.

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

I tried doing it, but I seen no way of putting the belt on the pulley.
I don't know whats harder for most people, installing the compressor or
installing the belt. The compressor was simple for me, but the belt, is
so much harder.

How much do you think someone would charge me to install the Belt? I
have the belt, and just need it installed. Hopefully, they won't have
to take anything off the car, except for the plastic tray under the
car.

I wish there was some place where they showed you how to do stuff
yourself, step, by step.

Thanks!

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

I tried doing it, but I seen no way of putting the belt on the pulley.
I don't know whats harder for most people, installing the compressor or
installing the belt. The compressor was simple for me, but the belt, is
so much harder.

How much do you think someone would charge me to install the Belt? I
have the belt, and just need it installed. Hopefully, they won't have
to take anything off the car, except for the plastic tray under the
car.

I wish there was some place where they showed you how to do stuff
yourself, step, by step.

Thanks!

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120084663.572724.188550@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried doing it, but I seen no way of putting the belt on the pulley.
> I don't know whats harder for most people, installing the compressor or
> installing the belt. The compressor was simple for me, but the belt, is
> so much harder.

The compressor belt runs on three pulleys: the crank (missing belt #1), the
compressor, and the tensioner pully (missing belt #2). You have to
a) remove the compressor support arm bush cover where it bolts onto the
frame
b) remove the outer belt (power steering pump?)
c) slack off the tensioner (if that's what it is) Your compressor may hinge
to adjust belt tension.
d) fit the compressor, then its belt.
e) refit the power steering belt, and the compressor support arm bush.

Its probably easier to have a garage do it: I would not pay more than 1
hours labour to fit this. You'll eventually have to take the car to an A/C
shop to get the system vacuumed and recharged anyway. They could fit the
whole thing. Just be aware that if your car was originally R12 refridgerant,
its cheaper to get an R134a upgrade. So the compressor will have to come off
and be converted, and have its oil changed to R134a compatible.

Stewart DIBBS

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120084663.572724.188550@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried doing it, but I seen no way of putting the belt on the pulley.
> I don't know whats harder for most people, installing the compressor or
> installing the belt. The compressor was simple for me, but the belt, is
> so much harder.

The compressor belt runs on three pulleys: the crank (missing belt #1), the
compressor, and the tensioner pully (missing belt #2). You have to
a) remove the compressor support arm bush cover where it bolts onto the
frame
b) remove the outer belt (power steering pump?)
c) slack off the tensioner (if that's what it is) Your compressor may hinge
to adjust belt tension.
d) fit the compressor, then its belt.
e) refit the power steering belt, and the compressor support arm bush.

Its probably easier to have a garage do it: I would not pay more than 1
hours labour to fit this. You'll eventually have to take the car to an A/C
shop to get the system vacuumed and recharged anyway. They could fit the
whole thing. Just be aware that if your car was originally R12 refridgerant,
its cheaper to get an R134a upgrade. So the compressor will have to come off
and be converted, and have its oil changed to R134a compatible.

Stewart DIBBS

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:12:25 -0400, "Stewart DIBBS" <sjd@pixcl.com>
wrote:

>"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1120084663.572724.188550@g14g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>I tried doing it, but I seen no way of putting the belt on the pulley.
>> I don't know whats harder for most people, installing the compressor or
>> installing the belt. The compressor was simple for me, but the belt, is
>> so much harder.
>
>The compressor belt runs on three pulleys: the crank (missing belt #1), the
>compressor, and the tensioner pully (missing belt #2). You have to
>a) remove the compressor support arm bush cover where it bolts onto the
>frame
>b) remove the outer belt (power steering pump?)
>c) slack off the tensioner (if that's what it is) Your compressor may hinge
>to adjust belt tension.
>d) fit the compressor, then its belt.
>e) refit the power steering belt, and the compressor support arm bush.
>
>Its probably easier to have a garage do it: I would not pay more than 1
>hours labour to fit this. You'll eventually have to take the car to an A/C
>shop to get the system vacuumed and recharged anyway. They could fit the
>whole thing. Just be aware that if your car was originally R12 refridgerant,
>its cheaper to get an R134a upgrade. So the compressor will have to come off
>and be converted, and have its oil changed to R134a compatible.
>
>Stewart DIBBS
>
the belt closest to the engine is the alternator belt, next out is
a/c belt, the p/s belt. it's a civic right?
Chip

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:12:25 -0400, "Stewart DIBBS" <sjd@pixcl.com>
wrote:

>"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1120084663.572724.188550@g14g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>I tried doing it, but I seen no way of putting the belt on the pulley.
>> I don't know whats harder for most people, installing the compressor or
>> installing the belt. The compressor was simple for me, but the belt, is
>> so much harder.
>
>The compressor belt runs on three pulleys: the crank (missing belt #1), the
>compressor, and the tensioner pully (missing belt #2). You have to
>a) remove the compressor support arm bush cover where it bolts onto the
>frame
>b) remove the outer belt (power steering pump?)
>c) slack off the tensioner (if that's what it is) Your compressor may hinge
>to adjust belt tension.
>d) fit the compressor, then its belt.
>e) refit the power steering belt, and the compressor support arm bush.
>
>Its probably easier to have a garage do it: I would not pay more than 1
>hours labour to fit this. You'll eventually have to take the car to an A/C
>shop to get the system vacuumed and recharged anyway. They could fit the
>whole thing. Just be aware that if your car was originally R12 refridgerant,
>its cheaper to get an R134a upgrade. So the compressor will have to come off
>and be converted, and have its oil changed to R134a compatible.
>
>Stewart DIBBS
>
the belt closest to the engine is the alternator belt, next out is
a/c belt, the p/s belt. it's a civic right?
Chip

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

Thanks Chip and Stewart,

Wow, yeah that is a lot of stuff that has to be done. I would figure
the compressor would be the hardest thing to install, but its easy to
figure out that its not.

Well I had bought some R12, but I guess that cannot be used, even
though I bet it would be better because it gets a lot colder right?

The R134A seems fine, but it doesn't get as cold.

I had a shop install the belt and it costed me $119.00

They said I had to pay to remove the one belt as Stewart said, the
power steering pump belt, and then the cost of installing the A/C
compressor belt, which I already had bought, so there was no parts
charge. Even though, the belt costed me like $26.00, because I bought
the best one they had at Advanced Auto Parts.

Does $119 sound fair? either way I am finally happy I have A/C. It's so
damn hot here in Atlanta, Georgia. It's like 95 now.

Thanks guys!

Re: replacing a/c compressor, and belt, need help
 

Thanks Chip and Stewart,

Wow, yeah that is a lot of stuff that has to be done. I would figure
the compressor would be the hardest thing to install, but its easy to
figure out that its not.

Well I had bought some R12, but I guess that cannot be used, even
though I bet it would be better because it gets a lot colder right?

The R134A seems fine, but it doesn't get as cold.

I had a shop install the belt and it costed me $119.00

They said I had to pay to remove the one belt as Stewart said, the
power steering pump belt, and then the cost of installing the A/C
compressor belt, which I already had bought, so there was no parts
charge. Even though, the belt costed me like $26.00, because I bought
the best one they had at Advanced Auto Parts.

Does $119 sound fair? either way I am finally happy I have A/C. It's so
damn hot here in Atlanta, Georgia. It's like 95 now.

Thanks guys!