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a 09-12-2008 05:43 PM

Scan Guage...
 
Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one product
when looking for "scan gauge":

http://www.scangauge.com/

Are there any competing products, and am I correct in assuming the OBD port
for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?

a

Brian Smith 09-12-2008 06:50 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
a wrote:
> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one product
> when looking for "scan gauge":
>
> http://www.scangauge.com/
>
> Are there any competing products, and am I correct in assuming the OBD port
> for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?


The OBD II port is under the dash on the driver's side. Should be handy
the steering column.

Jim Yanik 09-12-2008 06:52 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:VnByk.2399$yS5.1625@edtnps83:

> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one
> product when looking for "scan gauge":
>
> http://www.scangauge.com/
>
> Are there any competing products, and am I correct in assuming the OBD
> port for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?
>
> a
>


I believe it's the brand name,and the port should be under the driver's
side dash.

you could try Googling for "OBD port gauges" for other similar products.

--
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jyanik
at
kua.net

Tegger 09-12-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:VnByk.2399$yS5.1625@edtnps83:

> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one
> product when looking for "scan gauge":
>
> http://www.scangauge.com/




In Google, try
"OBD-II code reader"
"OBD-II scan tool"
"DTC scan tool"
just for a start.

One I've heard very good things about (but have not tried myself) is
http://www.autoenginuity.com/




>
> Are there any competing products,




Only about five hundred others. Any geek with a soldering iron
and an account at an electronics parts place can make one.

Your local auto parts places all have some sort of OBD-II code reader
in stock.



> and am I correct in assuming the OBD
> port for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?
>



See this link:
<http://www.emissiontestwa.com/OBD%20Tutorial/018-DLCSearch.aspx>
Enter your vehicle, and voila.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Joe 09-12-2008 11:04 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
On 2008-09-12, Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
> a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:VnByk.2399$yS5.1625@edtnps83:
>
>> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one
>> product when looking for "scan gauge":
>>
>> http://www.scangauge.com/

>
> One I've heard very good things about (but have not tried myself) is
> http://www.autoenginuity.com/


That looks like a great tool, but a bit overboard (and pricey) for
most folks. To get the generic kit and the Honda add-on, it's around
$500.

The ScanGuageII is probably better suited for most folks. And a lot
cheaper... ;-)


--
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joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-13-2008 07:30 AM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
In article <Xns9B17CACA14DCEtegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> > Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one
> > product when looking for "scan gauge":
> >
> > http://www.scangauge.com/

>
>
>
> In Google, try
> "OBD-II code reader"
> "OBD-II scan tool"
> "DTC scan tool"
> just for a start.
>
> One I've heard very good things about (but have not tried myself) is
> http://www.autoenginuity.com/


While they both read the OBDII information, their presentation and
capabilities are different.

There's reason to have both, actually, but depending on what you want,
one of them is entirely unsuited.

Jim Yanik 09-13-2008 09:08 AM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9B17C013CADFDjyanikkuanet@74.209.136.86:

> a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:VnByk.2399$yS5.1625@edtnps83:
>
>> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one
>> product when looking for "scan gauge":
>>
>> http://www.scangauge.com/
>>
>> Are there any competing products, and am I correct in assuming the OBD
>> port for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?
>>
>> a
>>

>
> I believe it's the brand name,and the port should be under the driver's
> side dash.
>
> you could try Googling for "OBD port gauges" for other similar products.
>


here's an interesting page;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mance_Monitors

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Tegger 09-13-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
Joe <joe@no-spam.hits-nospam-buffalo.com> wrote in
news:slrngcmbd3.t57.joe@barada.griffincs.local:

> On 2008-09-12, Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>> a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:VnByk.2399$yS5.1625@edtnps83:
>>
>>> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one
>>> product when looking for "scan gauge":
>>>
>>> http://www.scangauge.com/

>>
>> One I've heard very good things about (but have not tried myself) is
>> http://www.autoenginuity.com/

>
> That looks like a great tool, but a bit overboard (and pricey) for
> most folks. To get the generic kit and the Honda add-on, it's around
> $500.
>
> The ScanGuageII is probably better suited for most folks. And a lot
> cheaper... ;-)
>
>



You're probably right on the first count, and certainly right on the
second.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

JXStern 09-13-2008 09:44 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:50:33 GMT, Brian Smith
<Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

>a wrote:
>> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one product
>> when looking for "scan gauge":
>>
>> http://www.scangauge.com/
>>
>> Are there any competing products, and am I correct in assuming the OBD port
>> for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?

>
> The OBD II port is under the dash on the driver's side. Should be handy
>the steering column.


These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?

J.


Truckdude 09-13-2008 10:25 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:p3roc4p9se3aq67f7s6tgha0s56929cquk@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:50:33 GMT, Brian Smith
> <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>
>>a wrote:
>>> Is this the name or brand name of the product - I can only find one
>>> product
>>> when looking for "scan gauge":
>>>
>>> http://www.scangauge.com/
>>>
>>> Are there any competing products, and am I correct in assuming the OBD
>>> port
>>> for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?

>>
>> The OBD II port is under the dash on the driver's side. Should be handy
>>the steering column.

>
> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>
> J.
>


Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That goes for
any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.



Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-14-2008 08:08 AM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
In article <p3roc4p9se3aq67f7s6tgha0s56929cquk@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> >> http://www.scangauge.com/
> >>
> >> Are there any competing products, and am I correct in assuming the OBD port
> >> for my 2002 Accord is under the driver's side dash?

> >
> > The OBD II port is under the dash on the driver's side. Should be handy
> >the steering column.

>
> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?


Yes.

JXStern 09-14-2008 01:37 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
wrote:

>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?

>
>Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That goes for
>any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.


Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.

J.


a 09-14-2008 06:39 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
JXStern wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?

>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That goes for
>> any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.

>
> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>
> J.
>


They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't mandated for
all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...

a

Jim Yanik 09-14-2008 10:56 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:zogzk.2785$yS5.1652@edtnps83:

> JXStern wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That
>>> goes for any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.

>>
>> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>>
>> J.
>>

>
> They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't
> mandated for all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...
>
> a
>


"MANDATED"??
does government HAVE to get involved in this??? Is it really necessary?

G-D socialists...

you want one,BUY one.

if enough people want them,then the manufacturers will include them as
standard.(and raise the price accordingly.)

G-D socialists...

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

jim beam 09-14-2008 11:32 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:zogzk.2785$yS5.1652@edtnps83:
>
>> JXStern wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>>>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That
>>>> goes for any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.
>>> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>>>
>>> J.
>>>

>> They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't
>> mandated for all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...
>>
>> a
>>

>
> "MANDATED"??
> does government HAVE to get involved in this??? Is it really necessary?
>
> G-D socialists...
>
> you want one,BUY one.
>
> if enough people want them,then the manufacturers will include them as
> standard.(and raise the price accordingly.)
>
> G-D socialists...
>


hold on a moment... if we had the ultimate "free market" where
manufacturers could do whatever they wanted, vehicle computerization
would give the ultimate lock-in for car manufacturers to rip off
consumers and exclude the entire after-market vehicle repair business.
and that nearly happened - bmw maintenance reminder anyone? but
gub'mint mandated standardized and "open" obd ports and no lock-in.
thus johnny independent can fix your new computerized frod, even if frod
don't really want him to.

if you want to bitch about socialism, focus your attention on wall st
bail-outs and the deployment of your [our] tax dollars on failed
gambling addictions and [il]legal trickery instead. and our new
socialist home loans with what used to be fannie and freddie - we'll be
paying-through-the-ass goddamned communists for /that/ $5T hocus pocus
for quite some time...



scott 09-14-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9B19E95684C5Cjyanikkuanet@74.209.136.83:


>> They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't
>> mandated for all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...
>>
>> a
>>

>
> "MANDATED"??
> does government HAVE to get involved in this??? Is it really necessary?
>
> G-D socialists...
>
> you want one,BUY one.
>
> if enough people want them,then the manufacturers will include them as
> standard.(and raise the price accordingly.)
>
> G-D socialists...
>


Amen on the socialists.

Socialism in the USA is kind of like Robin Hood , except here it means

Rob from the hard working people that earn the money, take half for
yourself and use the other half to buy the votes to get reelected
from the people that don't want to work via welfare, food stamps, WIC,
etc.
end of rant

Back on topic, the Scangauge II is a very good product, I have had one
about a year and a half and love it. I have used it to train myself to
drive for mileage and get consistently above 30 mpg in town with an '02
Civic (MT).
Scott


Jim Yanik 09-15-2008 08:56 AM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:EZydnRzxTKHpSlDVnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:zogzk.2785$yS5.1652@edtnps83:
>>
>>> JXStern wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>>>>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That
>>>>> goes for any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.
>>>> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>>
>>> They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't
>>> mandated for all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...
>>>
>>> a
>>>

>>
>> "MANDATED"??
>> does government HAVE to get involved in this??? Is it really necessary?
>>
>> G-D socialists...
>>
>> you want one,BUY one.
>>
>> if enough people want them,then the manufacturers will include them as
>> standard.(and raise the price accordingly.)
>>
>> G-D socialists...
>>

>
> hold on a moment... if we had the ultimate "free market" where
> manufacturers could do whatever they wanted, vehicle computerization
> would give the ultimate lock-in for car manufacturers to rip off
> consumers and exclude the entire after-market vehicle repair business.
> and that nearly happened - bmw maintenance reminder anyone? but
> gub'mint mandated standardized and "open" obd ports and no lock-in.
> thus johnny independent can fix your new computerized frod, even if frod
> don't really want him to.



This is protecting the consumer(and keeping repair prices
competitive),quite different from mandating features people don't need,but
would LIKE to have.
Heck,even seatbelts and airbags save some lives.

Should air conditioning be made mandatory?
AM/FM/CD radios? Satellite radio?

What next?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Tegger 09-15-2008 09:07 AM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:zogzk.2785$yS5.1652@edtnps83:

> JXStern wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That
>>> goes for any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.

>>
>> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>>
>> J.
>>

>
> They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't
> mandated for all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...
>




Of course it would. But that's not the point.

The point of having a generic Check Engine light was to coerce the owner
into visiting a garage to find out what was wrong. Visiting a garage means
there would a greater chance the problem (and maybe others) would get fixed
and not ignored. Fixed problems theoretically mean lower emissions, the
whole point of OBD-II in the first place.

At one time government bureaucrats were thinking that even this was not
enough, and there was talk of mandating an "OBD-III" that would actually
snitch on you to the government if you were driving around with your Check
Engine light on and not getting it looked at. I don't think that idea has
gone anywhere...yet.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jim beam 09-15-2008 09:10 AM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:EZydnRzxTKHpSlDVnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:zogzk.2785$yS5.1652@edtnps83:
>>>
>>>> JXStern wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>>>>>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That
>>>>>> goes for any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.
>>>>> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>>>>>
>>>>> J.
>>>>>
>>>> They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't
>>>> mandated for all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>> "MANDATED"??
>>> does government HAVE to get involved in this??? Is it really necessary?
>>>
>>> G-D socialists...
>>>
>>> you want one,BUY one.
>>>
>>> if enough people want them,then the manufacturers will include them as
>>> standard.(and raise the price accordingly.)
>>>
>>> G-D socialists...
>>>

>> hold on a moment... if we had the ultimate "free market" where
>> manufacturers could do whatever they wanted, vehicle computerization
>> would give the ultimate lock-in for car manufacturers to rip off
>> consumers and exclude the entire after-market vehicle repair business.
>> and that nearly happened - bmw maintenance reminder anyone? but
>> gub'mint mandated standardized and "open" obd ports and no lock-in.
>> thus johnny independent can fix your new computerized frod, even if frod
>> don't really want him to.

>
>
> This is protecting the consumer(and keeping repair prices
> competitive),quite different from mandating features people don't need,


dude, with respect, you need to sit on the freeway behind some 50's
detroit garbage and suck in those fumes for a few miles. seems you've
forgotten the old days.


> but
> would LIKE to have.
> Heck,even seatbelts and airbags save some lives.
>
> Should air conditioning be made mandatory?
> AM/FM/CD radios? Satellite radio?
>
> What next?
>


Jim Yanik 09-15-2008 11:27 AM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:0MKdnfPUC4J6w1PVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
>> news:EZydnRzxTKHpSlDVnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>> a <a@a.ca> wrote in news:zogzk.2785$yS5.1652@edtnps83:
>>>>
>>>>> JXStern wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude"
>>>>>> <shrub@lipstick.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>>>>>>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes.
>>>>>>> That goes for any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since
>>>>>>> 1996.
>>>>>> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't
>>>>> mandated for all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>> "MANDATED"??
>>>> does government HAVE to get involved in this??? Is it really
>>>> necessary?
>>>>
>>>> G-D socialists...
>>>>
>>>> you want one,BUY one.
>>>>
>>>> if enough people want them,then the manufacturers will include them
>>>> as standard.(and raise the price accordingly.)
>>>>
>>>> G-D socialists...
>>>>
>>> hold on a moment... if we had the ultimate "free market" where
>>> manufacturers could do whatever they wanted, vehicle computerization
>>> would give the ultimate lock-in for car manufacturers to rip off
>>> consumers and exclude the entire after-market vehicle repair
>>> business. and that nearly happened - bmw maintenance reminder
>>> anyone? but gub'mint mandated standardized and "open" obd ports and
>>> no lock-in. thus johnny independent can fix your new computerized
>>> frod, even if frod don't really want him to.

>>
>>
>> This is protecting the consumer(and keeping repair prices
>> competitive),quite different from mandating features people don't
>> need,

>
> dude, with respect, you need to sit on the freeway behind some 50's
> detroit garbage and suck in those fumes for a few miles. seems you've
> forgotten the old days.


Still no reason for government to "mandate" unnecessary items like
Scangauge,radios,or AC as "standard".
Sure,I'd like to have a Scangauge myself,but I do NOT agree that gov't
needs to mandate them.
Heck,most people wouldn't bother with them,wouldn't even realize they were
a feature of their autos.
But that Canuck would have EVERYBODY have to buy them,as part of a gov't
mandated standard;the auto companies don't install that stuff for free.
>
>
>> but
>> would LIKE to have.
>> Heck,even seatbelts and airbags save some lives.
>>
>> Should air conditioning be made mandatory?
>> AM/FM/CD radios? Satellite radio?
>>
>> What next?
>>

>




--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

JXStern 09-15-2008 11:12 PM

Re: Scan Guage...
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:39:27 GMT, a <a@a.ca> wrote:

>JXStern wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:25:29 -0700, "Truckdude" <shrub@lipstick.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> These things are just plug and go for, say, a 2007 Accord?
>>> Other than choosing what items you want on the display, yes. That goes for
>>> any car manufactured for sale in the U.S. since 1996.

>>
>> Kewl. Added to my toy wishlist.
>>
>> J.
>>

>
>They can save you lots of money - I don't know why they aren't mandated for
>all vehicles - the cost would be minimal...


Avoiding the term "mandated", since so many cars already come with
video screens anyway for navigation or whatever, you'd think they'd
come with a diagnostic display right on there, too, but noooooo.

J.



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