Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.

I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?

I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
"minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

Thanks.

J.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

JXStern wrote:
> OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
> on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
> maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
> just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.
>
> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?

Actually, it is exactly true. You don't need to do any tune-ups for
100,000 mi. In the old days, you needed to change the plugs, the wires,
the rotor, the cap, etc. Now, you don't need to do any of this for
100,000 mi.

They said "no tune-ups" not no maintenance.

Nothing inaccurate or misleading in what they said.

> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

Go for the oil change only. You should be able to find to find
instructions on resetting the maintenance light in your owner's manual.

Get the list of everything they check with the "minor service" and learn
to check them yourself.

Jeff


> Thanks.
>
> J.
>

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

JXStern wrote:
> OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
> on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
> maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
> just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.


Unless you bought the vehicle used and somebody kept the manuals, I
suspect your answer is in the glove box. I received two items relative
to the maintenance schedule with my 2006. The more comprehensive one is
in the owner's manual. While Honda could have changed this, common
sense argues against it.


> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?

Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.


> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
falling off the car<g>

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:41:54 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:

>> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
>> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
>> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?
>
>Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
>that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.

Well, it's not entirely clear. BMW now includes all standard
maintenance for 100k. That's sort of kind of what Honda wants it to
sound like. Of course it's not exactly true, for the Honda, but now I
find they're not making clear what you should be doing - and the local
dealer leverages that into selling this "minor service" deal.


>> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
>> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
>> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
>> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
>> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".
>
>To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
>information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
>filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
>falling off the car<g>

Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
city.

I'll go check the glove box for a secondary book that might have a
maintenance schedule, but I thought that used to be in the main book.

J.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

JXStern wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:41:54 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:
>
>>> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
>>> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
>>> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?
>> Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
>> that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.
>
> Well, it's not entirely clear. BMW now includes all standard
> maintenance for 100k. That's sort of kind of what Honda wants it to
> sound like. Of course it's not exactly true, for the Honda, but now I
> find they're not making clear what you should be doing - and the local
> dealer leverages that into selling this "minor service" deal.

A "deal." 5 cases of Pepsi (12 cans) for $11 is a deal. What they're
selling sounds like a "steal."

>>> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
>>> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
>>> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
>>> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
>>> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".
>> To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
>> information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
>> filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
>> falling off the car<g>
>
> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
> city.

And the cool thing is that you can shop around for other dealers or take
it to any shop or even do the work yourself.

Jeff

> I'll go check the glove box for a secondary book that might have a
> maintenance schedule, but I thought that used to be in the main book.
>
> J.
>

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:22:25 GMT, JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net>
wrote:

>OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
>on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
>maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
>just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.

I do not think anybody exactly answered your question. There is no
printed maintenance schedule for the 2006 and beyond Hondas. The
indicator on the odometer window will tell you exactly what you need
to do or have done. Oil changes every 6000 miles is about the same as
what mine is telling me. The last time the little wrench thingey lit
up, the maintenance minder said B 1 2. I was able to go to the manual
and see what B 1 2 called for. I did everything myself except the oil
change. I have those done simply because it is such a bother to
dispose of the used oil. Then I reset the minder following the
instructions in the manual.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

JXStern wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:41:54 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:

>> Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
>> that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.
>
> Well, it's not entirely clear. BMW now includes all standard
> maintenance for 100k. That's sort of kind of what Honda wants it to
> sound like. Of course it's not exactly true, for the Honda, but now I
> find they're not making clear what you should be doing - and the local
> dealer leverages that into selling this "minor service" deal.

Look over the maintenance items. Minor service, IMO, is for the sheeple
too lazy to do anything, including reading the manual, other than pop
the gas tank cap and occasionally throw some washer fluid in the tank
when they can no longer see out the windshield.<g>

I can get my oil and filter changed and tires rotated for under $45.
While it's up on the rack I can do my own "walk around"


>>> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
>>> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
>>> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
>>> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
>>> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".
>> To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
>> information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
>> filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
>> falling off the car<g>
>
> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
> city.

No, it's called running a profitable business. You can be an informed
consumer or a sheeple. I do what I can and shop wisely for the best
price and competency level on the rest of it.


> I'll go check the glove box for a secondary book that might have a
> maintenance schedule, but I thought that used to be in the main book.


They are probably pretty much the same across the 2007 Honda's but if
you have an Accord, turn to page 191 of your owners manual and READ it.
Maintenance is tied in to the Maintenance Minder vs. specific
mileages. Depending upon the code which comes up when the oil change is
due, various maintenance functions, listed in this section of the
manual, will need to be done.

2006 also uses this but, as I recall, also has somewhat of a chart -
similar to what most of us are used to.

All the 2007 manuals are available at:


https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/....ASP?YEAR=2007

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:44:39 -0600, Elliot Richmond
<xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:22:25 GMT, JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net>
>wrote:
>
>>OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
>>on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
>>maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
>>just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.
>
>I do not think anybody exactly answered your question. There is no
>printed maintenance schedule for the 2006 and beyond Hondas. The
>indicator on the odometer window will tell you exactly what you need
>to do or have done. Oil changes every 6000 miles is about the same as
>what mine is telling me. The last time the little wrench thingey lit
>up, the maintenance minder said B 1 2. I was able to go to the manual
>and see what B 1 2 called for. I did everything myself except the oil
>change. I have those done simply because it is such a bother to
>dispose of the used oil. Then I reset the minder following the
>instructions in the manual.

Well, thank you for a clear answer!

I saw the codes and all, but didn't realize that was meant to
completely replace any fixed schedule!

So, A-1 at 12,000 miles just means change the oil, not even the
filter, and rotate the wheels? Well, I may just splurge. I mean,
wouldn't you?


Actually, I think I had to reset the minder after my first oil change,
shop simply forgot to do it. I did check the oil and found it clean!

Harumph. Just as a test, I guess I'll call the dealer, tell them the
code and mileage, and ask for their recommendation. Heh. Like I
don't know already.

J.


>
>
>Elliot Richmond
>Itinerant astronomy teacher
>Freelance science writer

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:01:45 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:

>Look over the maintenance items. Minor service, IMO, is for the sheeple
>too lazy to do anything, including reading the manual, other than pop
>the gas tank cap and occasionally throw some washer fluid in the tank
>when they can no longer see out the windshield.<g>

That's me, basically, only I do wash the windshield without the spray.
I'm sure I did that, once.


>I can get my oil and filter changed and tires rotated for under $45.
>While it's up on the rack I can do my own "walk around"

Just want to keep the warranty valid.


>> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
>> city.
>
>No, it's called running a profitable business. You can be an informed
>consumer or a sheeple. I do what I can and shop wisely for the best
>price and competency level on the rest of it.

Nearest shop (eg, dealer) seems generally competent, and honest, if
greedy. Rather less greedy than the Acura dealer, where I had to keep
fending off recommendations to clean the injectors, yada yada.


>They are probably pretty much the same across the 2007 Honda's but if
>you have an Accord, turn to page 191 of your owners manual and READ it.
> Maintenance is tied in to the Maintenance Minder vs. specific
>mileages. Depending upon the code which comes up when the oil change is
>due, various maintenance functions, listed in this section of the
>manual, will need to be done.
>
>2006 also uses this but, as I recall, also has somewhat of a chart -
>similar to what most of us are used to.
>
>All the 2007 manuals are available at:
>
>https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/....ASP?YEAR=2007

Thanks.

I guess the news to me is that they are entirely *serious* about this
minder deal, I though it was just a widget to tell you when to change
the oil, based on hours, RPMs, and cold starts - or something like
that.

And now the trick is to see if the dealer will honor it without a lot
of noise. They send out these coupon books, and nowhere does it offer
"A-1 service for $50", which is about what it looks like it oughta be.
Plus or minus splurging on the filter.

J.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

JXStern wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:01:45 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:
>
>> Look over the maintenance items. Minor service, IMO, is for the sheeple
>> too lazy to do anything, including reading the manual, other than pop
>> the gas tank cap and occasionally throw some washer fluid in the tank
>> when they can no longer see out the windshield.<g>
>
> That's me, basically, only I do wash the windshield without the spray.
> I'm sure I did that, once.
>
>
>> I can get my oil and filter changed and tires rotated for under $45.
>> While it's up on the rack I can do my own "walk around"
>
> Just want to keep the warranty valid.

Well, all you need to do is rotate the tires, change the oil, and
inspect the thing at the recommended intervals.

>
>>> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
>>> city.
>> No, it's called running a profitable business. You can be an informed
>> consumer or a sheeple. I do what I can and shop wisely for the best
>> price and competency level on the rest of it.
>
> Nearest shop (eg, dealer) seems generally competent, and honest, if
> greedy. Rather less greedy than the Acura dealer, where I had to keep
> fending off recommendations to clean the injectors, yada yada.
>
>
>> They are probably pretty much the same across the 2007 Honda's but if
>> you have an Accord, turn to page 191 of your owners manual and READ it.
>> Maintenance is tied in to the Maintenance Minder vs. specific
>> mileages. Depending upon the code which comes up when the oil change is
>> due, various maintenance functions, listed in this section of the
>> manual, will need to be done.
>>
>> 2006 also uses this but, as I recall, also has somewhat of a chart -
>> similar to what most of us are used to.
>>
>> All the 2007 manuals are available at:
>>
>> https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/....ASP?YEAR=2007
>
> Thanks.
>
> I guess the news to me is that they are entirely *serious* about this
> minder deal, I though it was just a widget to tell you when to change
> the oil, based on hours, RPMs, and cold starts - or something like
> that.
>
> And now the trick is to see if the dealer will honor it without a lot
> of noise. They send out these coupon books, and nowhere does it offer
> "A-1 service for $50", which is about what it looks like it oughta be.
> Plus or minus splurging on the filter.

You say, "the dealer." Is there another dealer near where you live?

If not, is there a gas station or garage that can change the oil, rotate
the tires and reset the indicator light?

If the answer is "yes" to either question, then I would go elsewhere
than the dealer you have been going to.

Jeff

> J.
>
>

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

JXStern wrote:

>
> I guess the news to me is that they are entirely *serious* about this
> minder deal, I though it was just a widget to tell you when to change
> the oil, based on hours, RPMs, and cold starts - or something like
> that.
>


Honda is well-known for a great engine with great longevity. I have
seen (over the course of five oil changes, etc.) a variation on the
mileage before the minder called for service. I'm sure they know what
they're doing.

I'm sure that the "widget" takes all that and more into consideration.
GM's had it for years and has issued numerous TSB's to their dealerships
in an effort to get them (the dealers) to back off the old "3000 miles
for oil and filter change" and let their maintenance minder system
govern the need.

While it's not critical, you might want to go back and see what you did
on the first change. Think hard. All the follow up recommendations are
predicated upon following their schedule.

Two things of note: On my 2006 (and I didn't check the 2007 book but
assume it's the same). Honda specifically warned the owner to NOT
change out the oil before the maintenance minder called for it and,
secondly, specified NO filter change at the first oil change.

> And now the trick is to see if the dealer will honor it without a lot
> of noise. They send out these coupon books, and nowhere does it offer
> "A-1 service for $50", which is about what it looks like it oughta be.
> Plus or minus splurging on the filter.

Good luck!<g>

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:45:06 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:

>While it's not critical, you might want to go back and see what you did
>on the first change. Think hard. All the follow up recommendations are
>predicated upon following their schedule.

I took it to the (different) dealer where I bought it, gave them the
"first oil change free" coupon, and told them to take care of it.
About forty minutes later I was out of there.

J.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

In article <8unap31ihu897ra6de5gmc15vqc3jnn0l4@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> I saw the codes and all, but didn't realize that was meant to
> completely replace any fixed schedule!

That's because you bought your shiny new $25,000 toy and never bothered
actually to READ the owner's manual. Nah, you know how to drive a CAR!
Why the read a book about it?

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:22:33 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <8unap31ihu897ra6de5gmc15vqc3jnn0l4@4ax.com>,
> JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
>
>> I saw the codes and all, but didn't realize that was meant to
>> completely replace any fixed schedule!
>
>That's because you bought your shiny new $25,000 toy and never bothered
>actually to READ the owner's manual. Nah, you know how to drive a CAR!
>Why the read a book about it?

Damn straight.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:34gdp3d226bp75sfrm94gcq2ldoa7080h6@4ax.com...
>
> Damn straight.

Yet people like you, come here to ask the same old questions and READ
the answers. You could cut out the middleman and just read the manual in the
first place.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

the maintance light is turned off by pushing the odometer button hold
it turn on the key hold the button for six seconds the light goes off

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

Brian Smith wrote:
> "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:34gdp3d226bp75sfrm94gcq2ldoa7080h6@4ax.com...
>> Damn straight.
>
> Yet people like you, come here to ask the same old questions and READ
> the answers. You could cut out the middleman and just read the manual in the
> first place.

think about it - the answers are already both in his glove box /and/
online, yet he's asking the question anyway. therefore it's all about
the, er, "social interaction" and not about the car. like those morons
bleating about washer fluid.

bottom line, don't complain, just ignore their dumb asses. if you don't
play, they'll get bored and f*** off. elmo, you rise to the bait all
the freakin' time - you have some interesting and valuable comments to
make some times, but wasting your precious bodily fluids on idiots is
utterly pointless.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:6bDlj.24712$yQ1.21355@edtnps89...
|
| "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
| news:34gdp3d226bp75sfrm94gcq2ldoa7080h6@4ax.com...
| >
| > Damn straight.
|
| Yet people like you, come here to ask the same old questions and READ
| the answers. You could cut out the middleman and just read the manual in
the
| first place.

I think there is an issue of expectations here... If you've purchased new
cars in the past, particularly if you've done so over a period of 10, 20,
30+ years, but not every year, you expect to find a service schedule in the
manual or service log book even if you do read the manual. As such, it might
help matters if the dealer rep who delivers the car explained that the
maintenance schedule is determined by and reported by the car itself rather
than listed in some part of the documents provided. It may take a while for
people's expectations to catch up with the technology...

John

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

"John Grossbohlin" <nospam@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13pfi5530pi83e8@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I think there is an issue of expectations here...

I agree, normal people would expect the purchaser of a new vehicle to
read the Owners Manual. It only makes sense.

> If you've purchased new
> cars in the past, particularly if you've done so over a period of 10, 20,
> 30+ years, but not every year, you expect to find a service schedule in
> the
> manual or service log book even if you do read the manual. As such, it
> might
> help matters if the dealer rep who delivers the car explained that the
> maintenance schedule is determined by and reported by the car itself
> rather
> than listed in some part of the documents provided. It may take a while
> for
> people's expectations to catch up with the technology...

Use the same old tried and true methods that have worked over the last
forty years and have no worries.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:3RPlj.27681$yQ1.20308@edtnps89...
|
| "John Grossbohlin" <nospam@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
| news:13pfi5530pi83e8@corp.supernews.com...
| >
| > I think there is an issue of expectations here...

| Use the same old tried and true methods that have worked over the last
| forty years and have no worries.

Of course, it's human nature! ...and it goes the other way too. I've met a
lot of kids who have never "dialed" a phone and aren't sure what to do with
a rotary phone, cannot tell the time on a clock with hands, have no idea how
to use the most basic of tools or function in the woods, and wouldn't even
fathom the notion of walking somewhere... It's what you were socialized to
as you grew up. In the case of the service manuals, even though the manual
mentions the service related lights and displays, in the back of the mind
the notion of a schedule exists so the search for a schedule is under
taken... Does it make good sense? Probably not... but then one could argue
that much of the technology doesn't make sense, e.g., Power windows? What's
wrong with a crank? LOL

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

Brian Smith wrote:
> "John Grossbohlin" <nospam@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13pfi5530pi83e8@corp.supernews.com...
>> I think there is an issue of expectations here...
>
> I agree, normal people would expect the purchaser of a new vehicle to
> read the Owners Manual. It only makes sense.
>
>> If you've purchased new
>> cars in the past, particularly if you've done so over a period of 10, 20,
>> 30+ years, but not every year, you expect to find a service schedule in
>> the
>> manual or service log book even if you do read the manual. As such, it
>> might
>> help matters if the dealer rep who delivers the car explained that the
>> maintenance schedule is determined by and reported by the car itself
>> rather
>> than listed in some part of the documents provided. It may take a while
>> for
>> people's expectations to catch up with the technology...
>
> Use the same old tried and true methods that have worked over the last
> forty years and have no worries.

that's retarded. it's like putting a sophisticated computerized usage
monitoring system [developed over many years and at the cost of many
millions of dollars] on an expensive piece of machinery, then using a
calendar to find out when it's due for maintenance. oh, wait...

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

Every (approximate) 7500 miles the service needed light will come on and a
code will be shown (at least on my 07 v6 accord). That code will be
referenced in either the owners manual or the service log manual that came
with the car.

For the V6 at 7500 it was an oil change ($9.95) at my dealer if you bought
the car there. At 15,000 it was oil change, rotate and balance, top fluids
and check filters, brakes, suspension and for loose things etc. That was
about $100 including oil change. At 22,500 it will be $9.95 oil change
again. Pretty cheap in this phase of the cars life.

Howard

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:20hap3pvi6psfmcsapclt4q451sufbq6j6@4ax.com...
> OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
> on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
> maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
> just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.
>
> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?
>
> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:07:11 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
<nospam@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

>I think there is an issue of expectations here... If you've purchased new
>cars in the past, particularly if you've done so over a period of 10, 20,
>30+ years, but not every year, you expect to find a service schedule in the
>manual or service log book even if you do read the manual. As such, it might
>help matters if the dealer rep who delivers the car explained that the
>maintenance schedule is determined by and reported by the car itself rather
>than listed in some part of the documents provided. It may take a while for
>people's expectations to catch up with the technology...

Exactly.

I saw this new widget, and my reaction was, "hey, cute, it reminds you
TO LOOK IN THE BOOK. Then I looked in the book, and it says, "light
comes on, go to dealer." Huh? Where's the map? It would be GOOD
DOCUMENTATION to include the map in the users manual, that the widget
is following.

So, to resolve the issue, preparatory to calling the dealer who I
quite expect to attempt some modest rip-offs, I come and ask a
question.

Read the manual. Come on, guys, who on earth RTFMs? More to the
point, who on earth writes manuals worth reading? This one sucked.
It should have said, "Hey, we're serious, there isn't a fixed schedule
anymore, but here's the rough order the widget will follow."

AND, they should tell the f'ing dealers, so they can list "A-1 service
for $9.95, B-1 service for $69.95," or whatever. Since that does NOT
appear on their flyers, that is ANOTHER mismatch the Honda
organization can work on.

For that matter, why have codes in a book? Have a little voice come
out of the dash, "Honored Honda driver, please take car to dealer-san
for service and have them change my oil!" A-1. What kind of system
design is that?

J.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

In article <kufgp3hd66319cql1nm7o819lkk0i83lou@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> Come on, guys, who on earth RTFMs?

yeah. I mean, you just spent $25,000 on your shiny new toy--why should
you bother to know anything about it?

Ignorance is to be celebrated, right? Just like the boyz in the hood.
Keepin' it real, right?

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

In article <UBVlj.341$5K1.242@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>,
"Howard" <harold@excite.com> wrote:

> Every (approximate) 7500 miles the service needed light will come on and a
> code will be shown (at least on my 07 v6 accord). That code will be
> referenced in either the owners manual or the service log manual that came
> with the car.

Exactly.

But he doesn't want to be bothered to read the manual. Apparently,
spending $25,000 for a shiny new toy isn't enough for him to want to
know how it all works.

I bet he blindly signed his mortgage papers and never had a lawyer check
everything over, either. After all, it's only $300,000. Why spend $600
on a lawyer to tell him anything about it?

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

"JXStern" wrote

> Read the manual. Come on, guys, who on earth RTFMs?

You read the F one for your nice new SONY Bravia, didn't you?

BTW, if you don't trust your dealer to tell you the truth about required
service and service intervals, you shouldn't be going there.

Re: Service schedule for 2007 Accord
 

JXStern wrote:

>
> Read the manual. Come on, guys, who on earth RTFMs? More to the

Apparently, those of us who provided you with the substantive answers to
your question(s) read it. Thus, we were able to provide the answer.
Are we seeing a pattern here?

> point, who on earth writes manuals worth reading? This one sucked.
> It should have said, "Hey, we're serious, there isn't a fixed schedule
> anymore, but here's the rough order the widget will follow."

You apparently didn't read it properly. The schedule is pretty well
fixed, what is variable is the service interval.

> For that matter, why have codes in a book? Have a little voice come
> out of the dash, "Honored Honda driver, please take car to dealer-san
> for service and have them change my oil!" A-1. What kind of system
> design is that?

That would be an invaluable system for the dolts incapable of reading
and/or understanding the printed word but would undoubtedly add to the
cost of the vehicle.