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MinnesotaMike 10-09-2007 07:08 PM

shake problem
 
I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine. Like
I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had my
mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only thought is
that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do transmissions though.

Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem? I
would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.

Mike

motsco_ 10-09-2007 11:13 PM

Re: shake problem
 
MinnesotaMike wrote:
> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips. It
> just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine. Like I
> said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had my
> mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only thought is
> that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do transmissions though.
>
> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem? I
> would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>
> Mike

---------------------------------

Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?

'Curly'

motsco_ 10-09-2007 11:13 PM

Re: shake problem
 
MinnesotaMike wrote:
> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips. It
> just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine. Like I
> said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had my
> mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only thought is
> that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do transmissions though.
>
> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem? I
> would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>
> Mike

---------------------------------

Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?

'Curly'

jim beam 10-10-2007 12:37 AM

Re: shake problem
 
motsco_ wrote:
> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
>> It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine.
>> Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had
>> my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only
>> thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>> transmissions though.
>>
>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem?
>> I would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>
>> Mike

> ---------------------------------
>
> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>
> 'Curly'


cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few
quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

jim beam 10-10-2007 12:37 AM

Re: shake problem
 
motsco_ wrote:
> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
>> It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine.
>> Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had
>> my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only
>> thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>> transmissions though.
>>
>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem?
>> I would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>
>> Mike

> ---------------------------------
>
> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>
> 'Curly'


cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few
quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

M.Paul 10-10-2007 10:33 AM

Re: shake problem
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:jImdnX_4XPuUypHanZ2dnUVZ_sGvnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> motsco_ wrote:
>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips. It
>>> just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine. Like I
>>> said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had my
>>> mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only thought is
>>> that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do transmissions though.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem? I
>>> would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mike

>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>
>> 'Curly'

>
> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
> clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few quarts
> of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.


Could be a broken motor mount.



M.Paul 10-10-2007 10:33 AM

Re: shake problem
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:jImdnX_4XPuUypHanZ2dnUVZ_sGvnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> motsco_ wrote:
>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips. It
>>> just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine. Like I
>>> said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had my
>>> mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only thought is
>>> that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do transmissions though.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem? I
>>> would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mike

>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>
>> 'Curly'

>
> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
> clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few quarts
> of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.


Could be a broken motor mount.



motsco_ 10-10-2007 01:24 PM

Re: shake problem
 
jim beam wrote:
> motsco_ wrote:
>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
>>> It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine.
>>> Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I
>>> had my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only
>>> thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>>> transmissions though.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem?
>>> I would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mike

>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>
>> 'Curly'

>
> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
> clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few
> quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.


-------------------------

Yep. You don't want trouble with a CVT. I'd spend the extra and
drain-n-fill it three times, a day or two apart. There's something
special in that Z1 that the CVT needs to have smeared around it's
innards.. Here's a thread about the Honda HR-V which has a similar tranny:
http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=17604

Please check with your dealer which fluid to use.

'Curly'

motsco_ 10-10-2007 01:24 PM

Re: shake problem
 
jim beam wrote:
> motsco_ wrote:
>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
>>> It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine.
>>> Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I
>>> had my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only
>>> thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>>> transmissions though.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem?
>>> I would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mike

>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>
>> 'Curly'

>
> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
> clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few
> quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.


-------------------------

Yep. You don't want trouble with a CVT. I'd spend the extra and
drain-n-fill it three times, a day or two apart. There's something
special in that Z1 that the CVT needs to have smeared around it's
innards.. Here's a thread about the Honda HR-V which has a similar tranny:
http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=17604

Please check with your dealer which fluid to use.

'Curly'

MinnesotaMike 10-10-2007 09:39 PM

Re: shake problem
 
Thanks for the suggestions and help. The motor mounts look fine, so I
will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
dealer as soon as possible. Unfortunately, none in town. I assume I
can forgo the multiple changes if the dealer does it. Do you see any
problems using it until I get that changed?

Mike




motsco_ wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> motsco_ wrote:
>>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I
>>>> take off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble
>>>> strips. It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is
>>>> fine. Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete
>>>> stop. I had my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything.
>>>> His only thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>>>> transmissions though.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this
>>>> problem? I would hate to think about expensive transmission work.
>>>> The car has about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> ---------------------------------
>>>
>>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>>
>>> 'Curly'

>>
>> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the
>> start clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a
>> few quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

>
> -------------------------
>
> Yep. You don't want trouble with a CVT. I'd spend the extra and
> drain-n-fill it three times, a day or two apart. There's something
> special in that Z1 that the CVT needs to have smeared around it's
> innards.. Here's a thread about the Honda HR-V which has a similar tranny:
> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=17604
>
> Please check with your dealer which fluid to use.
>
> 'Curly'


MinnesotaMike 10-10-2007 09:39 PM

Re: shake problem
 
Thanks for the suggestions and help. The motor mounts look fine, so I
will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
dealer as soon as possible. Unfortunately, none in town. I assume I
can forgo the multiple changes if the dealer does it. Do you see any
problems using it until I get that changed?

Mike




motsco_ wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> motsco_ wrote:
>>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I
>>>> take off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble
>>>> strips. It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is
>>>> fine. Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete
>>>> stop. I had my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything.
>>>> His only thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>>>> transmissions though.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this
>>>> problem? I would hate to think about expensive transmission work.
>>>> The car has about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> ---------------------------------
>>>
>>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>>
>>> 'Curly'

>>
>> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the
>> start clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a
>> few quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

>
> -------------------------
>
> Yep. You don't want trouble with a CVT. I'd spend the extra and
> drain-n-fill it three times, a day or two apart. There's something
> special in that Z1 that the CVT needs to have smeared around it's
> innards.. Here's a thread about the Honda HR-V which has a similar tranny:
> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=17604
>
> Please check with your dealer which fluid to use.
>
> 'Curly'


motsco_ 10-11-2007 10:43 AM

Re: shake problem
 
MinnesotaMike wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions and help. The motor mounts look fine, so I
> will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
> dealer as soon as possible. Unfortunately, none in town. I assume I
> can forgo the multiple changes if the dealer does it. Do you see any
> problems using it until I get that changed?
>
> Mike
>

==================================

Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
the insides of the CVT, but the torque converter on a 'normal' tranny
holds about half of the total liquid volume. Since you can never get it
all out, you take it out 1/3rd at a time and do it three times.
Why not sign in and use the SEARCH feature at the link I provided.
You're talking about a life-n-death issue with your vehicle (the
tranny's life).

'Curly'

motsco_ 10-11-2007 10:43 AM

Re: shake problem
 
MinnesotaMike wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions and help. The motor mounts look fine, so I
> will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
> dealer as soon as possible. Unfortunately, none in town. I assume I
> can forgo the multiple changes if the dealer does it. Do you see any
> problems using it until I get that changed?
>
> Mike
>

==================================

Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
the insides of the CVT, but the torque converter on a 'normal' tranny
holds about half of the total liquid volume. Since you can never get it
all out, you take it out 1/3rd at a time and do it three times.
Why not sign in and use the SEARCH feature at the link I provided.
You're talking about a life-n-death issue with your vehicle (the
tranny's life).

'Curly'

MinnesotaMike 10-11-2007 09:46 PM

Re: shake problem
 
Thanks Curly. I will look into that for the next time. I came to find
out I have to leave town tomorrow. I was actually able to get the car
in tomorrow morning for the fluid change. For $65 I figured it was
worth paying them this time. I'll let you know if it helps. Thanks
again for your help.

Mike



motsco_ wrote:
>
>
> Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
> done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
> the insides of the CVT, but the torque converter on a 'normal' tranny
> holds about half of the total liquid volume. Since you can never get it
> all out, you take it out 1/3rd at a time and do it three times.
> Why not sign in and use the SEARCH feature at the link I provided.
> You're talking about a life-n-death issue with your vehicle (the
> tranny's life).
>
> 'Curly'


MinnesotaMike 10-11-2007 09:46 PM

Re: shake problem
 
Thanks Curly. I will look into that for the next time. I came to find
out I have to leave town tomorrow. I was actually able to get the car
in tomorrow morning for the fluid change. For $65 I figured it was
worth paying them this time. I'll let you know if it helps. Thanks
again for your help.

Mike



motsco_ wrote:
>
>
> Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
> done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
> the insides of the CVT, but the torque converter on a 'normal' tranny
> holds about half of the total liquid volume. Since you can never get it
> all out, you take it out 1/3rd at a time and do it three times.
> Why not sign in and use the SEARCH feature at the link I provided.
> You're talking about a life-n-death issue with your vehicle (the
> tranny's life).
>
> 'Curly'



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