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gbsmith 11-23-2003 10:34 AM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
I never sit longer than 2 minutes at a light. If at a RR crossing, I
shut the engine off.

I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5
MPG. Granted it only has 640 miles on it, but I'd like better
performance than that. I'm so light on the gas. I know I don't have a
heavy foot when driving.

Eric wrote:
> gbsmith wrote:
>
>>I seem to recall advice from the 70s during the "energy crisis" that
>>shifting to neutral at a red light helps conserve gasoline. Is there
>>any truth to this? I also recall that it's wise to shut the car off if
>>you're going to be idle for more than a minute. Personally, I can't see
>>myself shutting the car off at every light -- I don't. But I do turn it
>>off at RR crossings when the trains come.
>>

>
>
> A new car (or an old one with a new engine) should not be allowed to idle
> excessively. I don't have a precise definition of what excessive actually
> is, but I wouldn't let it sit at idle for more than about 5 minutes.
>
> Eric



gbsmith 11-23-2003 10:34 AM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
I never sit longer than 2 minutes at a light. If at a RR crossing, I
shut the engine off.

I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5
MPG. Granted it only has 640 miles on it, but I'd like better
performance than that. I'm so light on the gas. I know I don't have a
heavy foot when driving.

Eric wrote:
> gbsmith wrote:
>
>>I seem to recall advice from the 70s during the "energy crisis" that
>>shifting to neutral at a red light helps conserve gasoline. Is there
>>any truth to this? I also recall that it's wise to shut the car off if
>>you're going to be idle for more than a minute. Personally, I can't see
>>myself shutting the car off at every light -- I don't. But I do turn it
>>off at RR crossings when the trains come.
>>

>
>
> A new car (or an old one with a new engine) should not be allowed to idle
> excessively. I don't have a precise definition of what excessive actually
> is, but I wouldn't let it sit at idle for more than about 5 minutes.
>
> Eric



gbsmith 11-23-2003 10:34 AM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
I never sit longer than 2 minutes at a light. If at a RR crossing, I
shut the engine off.

I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5
MPG. Granted it only has 640 miles on it, but I'd like better
performance than that. I'm so light on the gas. I know I don't have a
heavy foot when driving.

Eric wrote:
> gbsmith wrote:
>
>>I seem to recall advice from the 70s during the "energy crisis" that
>>shifting to neutral at a red light helps conserve gasoline. Is there
>>any truth to this? I also recall that it's wise to shut the car off if
>>you're going to be idle for more than a minute. Personally, I can't see
>>myself shutting the car off at every light -- I don't. But I do turn it
>>off at RR crossings when the trains come.
>>

>
>
> A new car (or an old one with a new engine) should not be allowed to idle
> excessively. I don't have a precise definition of what excessive actually
> is, but I wouldn't let it sit at idle for more than about 5 minutes.
>
> Eric



Scott MacLean 11-23-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
640 miles isn't even close to being broken in. The rings need to seat yet.
Just keep driving it gently, don't idle for more than a few minutes, and
don't hold the engine at one speed for an extended time (i.e. highway
driving).

"gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message
news:ss4wb.5015$aw2.1512041@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> I never sit longer than 2 minutes at a light. If at a RR crossing, I
> shut the engine off.
>
> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5
> MPG. Granted it only has 640 miles on it, but I'd like better
> performance than that. I'm so light on the gas. I know I don't have a
> heavy foot when driving.
>
> Eric wrote:
> > gbsmith wrote:
> >
> >>I seem to recall advice from the 70s during the "energy crisis" that
> >>shifting to neutral at a red light helps conserve gasoline. Is there
> >>any truth to this? I also recall that it's wise to shut the car off if
> >>you're going to be idle for more than a minute. Personally, I can't see
> >>myself shutting the car off at every light -- I don't. But I do turn it
> >>off at RR crossings when the trains come.
> >>

> >
> >
> > A new car (or an old one with a new engine) should not be allowed to

idle
> > excessively. I don't have a precise definition of what excessive

actually
> > is, but I wouldn't let it sit at idle for more than about 5 minutes.
> >
> > Eric

>




Scott MacLean 11-23-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
640 miles isn't even close to being broken in. The rings need to seat yet.
Just keep driving it gently, don't idle for more than a few minutes, and
don't hold the engine at one speed for an extended time (i.e. highway
driving).

"gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message
news:ss4wb.5015$aw2.1512041@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> I never sit longer than 2 minutes at a light. If at a RR crossing, I
> shut the engine off.
>
> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5
> MPG. Granted it only has 640 miles on it, but I'd like better
> performance than that. I'm so light on the gas. I know I don't have a
> heavy foot when driving.
>
> Eric wrote:
> > gbsmith wrote:
> >
> >>I seem to recall advice from the 70s during the "energy crisis" that
> >>shifting to neutral at a red light helps conserve gasoline. Is there
> >>any truth to this? I also recall that it's wise to shut the car off if
> >>you're going to be idle for more than a minute. Personally, I can't see
> >>myself shutting the car off at every light -- I don't. But I do turn it
> >>off at RR crossings when the trains come.
> >>

> >
> >
> > A new car (or an old one with a new engine) should not be allowed to

idle
> > excessively. I don't have a precise definition of what excessive

actually
> > is, but I wouldn't let it sit at idle for more than about 5 minutes.
> >
> > Eric

>




Scott MacLean 11-23-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
640 miles isn't even close to being broken in. The rings need to seat yet.
Just keep driving it gently, don't idle for more than a few minutes, and
don't hold the engine at one speed for an extended time (i.e. highway
driving).

"gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message
news:ss4wb.5015$aw2.1512041@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> I never sit longer than 2 minutes at a light. If at a RR crossing, I
> shut the engine off.
>
> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5
> MPG. Granted it only has 640 miles on it, but I'd like better
> performance than that. I'm so light on the gas. I know I don't have a
> heavy foot when driving.
>
> Eric wrote:
> > gbsmith wrote:
> >
> >>I seem to recall advice from the 70s during the "energy crisis" that
> >>shifting to neutral at a red light helps conserve gasoline. Is there
> >>any truth to this? I also recall that it's wise to shut the car off if
> >>you're going to be idle for more than a minute. Personally, I can't see
> >>myself shutting the car off at every light -- I don't. But I do turn it
> >>off at RR crossings when the trains come.
> >>

> >
> >
> > A new car (or an old one with a new engine) should not be allowed to

idle
> > excessively. I don't have a precise definition of what excessive

actually
> > is, but I wouldn't let it sit at idle for more than about 5 minutes.
> >
> > Eric

>




Scott MacLean 11-23-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
640 miles isn't even close to being broken in. The rings need to seat yet.
Just keep driving it gently, don't idle for more than a few minutes, and
don't hold the engine at one speed for an extended time (i.e. highway
driving).

"gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message
news:ss4wb.5015$aw2.1512041@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> I never sit longer than 2 minutes at a light. If at a RR crossing, I
> shut the engine off.
>
> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5
> MPG. Granted it only has 640 miles on it, but I'd like better
> performance than that. I'm so light on the gas. I know I don't have a
> heavy foot when driving.
>
> Eric wrote:
> > gbsmith wrote:
> >
> >>I seem to recall advice from the 70s during the "energy crisis" that
> >>shifting to neutral at a red light helps conserve gasoline. Is there
> >>any truth to this? I also recall that it's wise to shut the car off if
> >>you're going to be idle for more than a minute. Personally, I can't see
> >>myself shutting the car off at every light -- I don't. But I do turn it
> >>off at RR crossings when the trains come.
> >>

> >
> >
> > A new car (or an old one with a new engine) should not be allowed to

idle
> > excessively. I don't have a precise definition of what excessive

actually
> > is, but I wouldn't let it sit at idle for more than about 5 minutes.
> >
> > Eric

>




N.E.Ohio Bob 11-23-2003 02:57 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
way there on one tank. bob

Scott MacLean wrote:

> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5

MPG.

N.E.Ohio Bob 11-23-2003 02:57 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
way there on one tank. bob

Scott MacLean wrote:

> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5

MPG.

N.E.Ohio Bob 11-23-2003 02:57 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
way there on one tank. bob

Scott MacLean wrote:

> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5

MPG.

N.E.Ohio Bob 11-23-2003 02:57 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
way there on one tank. bob

Scott MacLean wrote:

> I'm still concerned because the car, an '04 Civic, still only gets 22.5

MPG.

Me 11-25-2003 10:05 AM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:57:50 GMT, "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

> Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
>must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
>humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
>way there on one tank. bob


Almost the same experience. I went from Norfolk to Oklahoma City, and
in Tennesee I got up to 490 miles on the trip odometer before I pulled
over for gas, but I only put in 10.1 gallons. Of course, mine's a 1994
Civic DX Coupe, but boy was I still impressed!

Nate

Me 11-25-2003 10:05 AM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:57:50 GMT, "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

> Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
>must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
>humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
>way there on one tank. bob


Almost the same experience. I went from Norfolk to Oklahoma City, and
in Tennesee I got up to 490 miles on the trip odometer before I pulled
over for gas, but I only put in 10.1 gallons. Of course, mine's a 1994
Civic DX Coupe, but boy was I still impressed!

Nate

Me 11-25-2003 10:05 AM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:57:50 GMT, "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

> Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
>must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
>humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
>way there on one tank. bob


Almost the same experience. I went from Norfolk to Oklahoma City, and
in Tennesee I got up to 490 miles on the trip odometer before I pulled
over for gas, but I only put in 10.1 gallons. Of course, mine's a 1994
Civic DX Coupe, but boy was I still impressed!

Nate

Joe Neugebauer 12-18-2003 01:23 PM

Re: Shifting to Neutral?
 
Don't worry the car is not even broken in yet. My car didn't start getting
optimal gas mileage until 20,000 miles. These engines are very well built
and have great wear characteristics. Give it time and it will improve. By
the way my car is an 94 Acura GS-R that I have raced occasionally and has
125,000 miles original engine and still gets 30 MPG highway. Point is it
takes time to break the motor in and if you take care of it, it will last
forever.


"Me" <nathandeunk1@.dontmailme.cox.net> wrote in message
news:mqr6sv4j1chbrf2i4cblva73t16a6r9946@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:57:50 GMT, "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Best mpg I ever got was on a trip from Akron, Ohio to Va. Beach VA. I
> >must have had a tail wind the whole way. Temp was about 70 degrees, and
> >humidity was low. '92 Accord LX got 33 miles per gallon. Got the whole
> >way there on one tank. bob

>
> Almost the same experience. I went from Norfolk to Oklahoma City, and
> in Tennesee I got up to 490 miles on the trip odometer before I pulled
> over for gas, but I only put in 10.1 gallons. Of course, mine's a 1994
> Civic DX Coupe, but boy was I still impressed!
>
> Nate





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