Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love
the car. It drives great. But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole and, while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight difference causing it to stand out. This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing the swap. Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. PJ -- Remove both XX's from e-mail to reply. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
"Patrick Maloney" <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2. 165... > I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love > the car. It drives great. > > But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it > out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The > scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. > > They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the > issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole > and, > while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight > difference causing it to stand out. > > This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing > the swap. > > Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. Let them do the swap and then decide if you're happy with how the colours match up between the body panels. Brian |
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"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:KLtKf.3209$Nr5.858@clgrps13: > > Let them do the swap and then decide if you're happy with how the > colours match up between the body panels. > Yeah, I'm sort of leaning that way... -- Remove both XX's from e-mail to reply. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
In article <Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165> ,
patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com says... > I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love > the car. It drives great. > > But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it > out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The > scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. > > They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the > issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole and, > while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight > difference causing it to stand out. > > This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing > the swap. > > Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. > > PJ > > Had the same thing with my 01 Sunfire and after they swapped the bumper I couldn't see any difference. I would let them do it and then take a look to see if you can spot any difference in colour. -- Cheers! Jan |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:09:30 GMT, Jan <myredsunfire@shaw.ca> wrote:
>In article <Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165> , >patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com says... >> I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love >> the car. It drives great. >> >> But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it >> out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The >> scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. >> >> They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the >> issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole and, >> while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight >> difference causing it to stand out. >> >> This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing >> the swap. >> >> Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. >> >> PJ >> >> >Had the same thing with my 01 Sunfire and after they swapped the bumper >I couldn't see any difference. I would let them do it and then take a >look to see if you can spot any difference in colour. let them swap it and then notice the VIN sticker on the bumper doesn't match the car!! Now does it smell funny???? Honda puts vin stickers on the rear bumpers inside the trunk lip. Chip |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
chip <hs4797@brevard.net> wrote in
news:k34lv1l97a7r8plimbv1rrf7evoqsuvatu@4ax.com: > > > let them swap it and then notice the VIN sticker on the bumper doesn't > match the car!! Now does it smell funny???? > Honda puts vin stickers on the rear bumpers inside the trunk > lip. > That's a good point...forgot about that. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
Patrick Maloney wrote: > I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love > the car. It drives great. > > But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it > out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The > scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. > > They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the > issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole and, > while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight > difference causing it to stand out. > > This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing > the swap. > > Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. If they do the swap, are you obligated to buy? I'd ask for the swap on the condition you can back out, if they are that confident in their work, they should agree. OTOH, you may go through the bumper swap only to have some moron bump you in the mall parking lot. ;) |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
In article <Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165> ,
Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love > the car. It drives great. > > But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it > out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The > scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. > > They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the > issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole and, > while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight > difference causing it to stand out. There's no problem with doing this. As an alternative, you could have them refinish the bumper cover. That's very inexpensive, and you won't know the difference. I'm amazed at what they can do with bumper covers. I had one that was seriously screwed up in a minor accident, and it came back looking better than ever--as a repair, not a replacement. But, of course, my car was a few years old at the time. Why would you accept anything like this for a new car? You pay a premium for a new car over a used one; why would you buy anything less than EXACTLY what you're looking for? Accepting this kind of a deal is good only for the dealer, not for the buyer. He wants to move the car. Why should you take it? This is part of negotiating. What do you get out of taking this car with a swapped or repaired bumper cover? If the answer is "I get the car I want NOW", then you're exactly the sucker the dealer likes dealing with. You let emotion get in the way of a business deal--which means you lose, every time. There's no need to get emotional about a silly car. You know the same car with zero damage is available somewhere else, or will be available at this dealer. Why would you spend that kind of money to fulfill a very temporary emotional satisfaction? Delayed gratification is just fine. If the world doesn't offer what you want when you want it, go with the flow. It's not like they're not selling Accords left and right. It's not like this is some antique Ferrari you're buying off of Ebay and you won't ever be able to find one like it again. It's a new Accord, fer chrissakes. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
If you are paying for a new car it seems unfair to offer one that had any
type of body damage. I had the same experience with a new Saturn SL2 where they damaged the front bumper in transit (so they said) and offered me a brand new bumper. I took their offer but found later that they had poorly mounted the new bumper and, when I parked with the bumper barely rubbing the parking island, the new bumper just came apart when I backed out. When I brought the car back and demanded that they refund my money as they promised within 30 days, they said: Since I had incurred body damage the car was no longer new and the 30 day return policy was voided. So ask for another car fresh from the production line or go somewhere else. "Patrick Maloney" <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2. 165... > I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love > the car. It drives great. > > But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it > out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The > scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. > > They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the > issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole and, > while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight > difference causing it to stand out. > > This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing > the swap. > > Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. > > PJ > > -- > > Remove both XX's from e-mail to reply. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
"murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message news:RRCKf.1209$jl.322@fe09.lga... > If you are paying for a new car it seems unfair to offer one that had any > type of body damage. > I had the same experience with a new Saturn SL2 where they damaged the > front > bumper in transit (so they said) and offered me a brand new bumper. > I took their offer but found later that they had poorly mounted the new > bumper and, when I parked with the bumper barely rubbing the parking > island, > the new bumper just came apart when I backed out. > When I brought the car back and demanded that they refund my money as they > promised within 30 days, they said: > Since I had incurred body damage the car was no longer new and the 30 day > return policy was voided. Let me get this straight. YOU did damage to the car and YOU expected the dealership to repair YOUR damage for free. Am I correct in the way I read what you are saying? |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
I would rather have the swap than a repainted bumper. The question is how
good are they swapping it without damaging the good one. I'd get a little off the price if I was taking a car like this. Maybe throw in a few accessories or service? G-Man "Patrick Maloney" <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2. 165... > I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love > the car. It drives great. > > But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it > out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. The > scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. > > They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the > issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole > and, > while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight > difference causing it to stand out. > > This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing > the swap. > > Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. > > PJ > > -- > > Remove both XX's from e-mail to reply. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
Waiving the right to remain silent, Patrick Maloney
<patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> said: > They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal > with the issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was > painted as a whole and, while the colors might be named the > same, there might be some slight difference causing it to stand > out. If they are plastic bumpers, then they are probably not painted at the same time as the body. Different paint formulations, IIRC. -- Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail "I've come here to enjoy nature. Don't talk to me about the environment!" - 'Denny Crane' |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
I know you love the car, and your not asking me for your advice, just
keep in mind that within a few months, your have a lot more then just a few scratches on your bumper, rear and front. No car can stay in pervert condition, well, unless you never drive it. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
Take a step-back, and a deep breath, and walk away from the deal.
Either wait for another one just like it from the same dealer, or find one at another dealer. First of all, show patience in your purchase of the new Accord, or you will be forever sorry that you went ahead with the purchase. Don't EVER fall in love with a particular sample of a new car; just like women, there are plenty of them out there! |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
Brian,
Perhaps you don't understand. The bumper is supposed to sustain damage in excess of 5 mph without falling apart. What I did was back up at perhaps at almost 0 mph with the bottom of the bumper barely rubbing against a parking island (you could hardly hear it). Do you really think that the whole bumper should come apart under these conditions? I'm 73 years old and have owned about 12 different cars during that time and none of them ever lost a bumper. And, I might add that I've been a lot harder on those cars than the Saturn. "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:XzDKf.6958$_62.6019@edtnps90... > > "murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message > news:RRCKf.1209$jl.322@fe09.lga... > > If you are paying for a new car it seems unfair to offer one that had any > > type of body damage. > > I had the same experience with a new Saturn SL2 where they damaged the > > front > > bumper in transit (so they said) and offered me a brand new bumper. > > I took their offer but found later that they had poorly mounted the new > > bumper and, when I parked with the bumper barely rubbing the parking > > island, > > the new bumper just came apart when I backed out. > > When I brought the car back and demanded that they refund my money as they > > promised within 30 days, they said: > > Since I had incurred body damage the car was no longer new and the 30 day > > return policy was voided. > > Let me get this straight. YOU did damage to the car and YOU expected the > dealership to repair YOUR damage for free. Am I correct in the way I read > what you are saying? > > > > |
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"murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message news:p5OKf.2106$YV1.445@fe12.lga... > Brian, > Perhaps you don't understand. > The bumper is supposed to sustain damage in excess of 5 mph without > falling > apart. What I did was back up at perhaps at almost 0 mph with the bottom > of > the bumper barely rubbing against a parking island (you could hardly hear > it). > Do you really think that the whole bumper should come apart under these > conditions? > I'm 73 years old and have owned about 12 different cars during that time > and > none of them ever lost a bumper. > And, I might add that I've been a lot harder on those cars than the > Saturn. Murray, Now that you've given me (and the rest of us here <g>) more details, what you said makes more sense about the problem with the bumper. Brian |
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On 2/21/2006 12:00 PM mopa spake these words of knowledge:
> I know you love the car, and your not asking me for your advice, just > keep in mind that within a few months, your have a lot more then just a > few scratches on your bumper, rear and front. No car can stay in > pervert condition, well, unless you never drive it. Hmm. There's a slip of the ol' Freudian tongue... RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
Thanks Dave, I'll keep that in mind.
Well its true, I have met quite a few people who buy a new car, or get a used car repainted, and only a few months or so, there are a few scratches. I know my car too, but lets face it, everyones car is going to get a few scratches. It's only a piece of material. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
On 2/22/2006 12:38 PM mopa spake these words of knowledge:
> Thanks Dave, I'll keep that in mind. > > Well its true, I have met quite a few people who buy a new car, or get > a used car repainted, and only a few months or so, there are a few > scratches. I know my car too, but lets face it, everyones car is going > to get a few scratches. It's only a piece of material. > Mopa, I can't tell from your response if you knew or not, but what I was referring to was the fact that in your original post, you said, "...No car can stay in _*pervert*_ condition, well, unless you never drive it." RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- You know what seems odd to me? Numbers that aren't divisible by two. |
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"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:KLtKf.3209$Nr5.858@clgrps13... > > "Patrick Maloney" <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2. 165... >> I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love >> the car. It drives great. >> >> But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it >> out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse. >> The >> scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'. >> >> They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the >> issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole >> and, >> while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight >> difference causing it to stand out. >> >> This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing >> the swap. >> >> Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car. > > Let them do the swap and then decide if you're happy with how the colours > match up between the body panels. > > Brian Have them line up both cars together side by side (very close) and look them over together. > > > |
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"Larry J." <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote in
news:Xns97715C40445thefrogprince@70.169.32.36: > Waiving the right to remain silent, Patrick Maloney > <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> said: > >> They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal >> with the issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was >> painted as a whole and, while the colors might be named the >> same, there might be some slight difference causing it to stand >> out. > > If they are plastic bumpers, then they are probably not painted at > the same time as the body. Different paint formulations, IIRC. > Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table. Car was sold a few days ago anyway. -- Remove both XX's from e-mail to reply. |
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In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >,
Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote: > Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table. ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ?? |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
Brian Smith wrote:
> "murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message > news:RRCKf.1209$jl.322@fe09.lga... >> If you are paying for a new car it seems unfair to offer one that had any >> type of body damage. >> I had the same experience with a new Saturn SL2 where they damaged the >> front >> bumper in transit (so they said) and offered me a brand new bumper. >> I took their offer but found later that they had poorly mounted the new >> bumper and, when I parked with the bumper barely rubbing the parking >> island, >> the new bumper just came apart when I backed out. >> When I brought the car back and demanded that they refund my money as they >> promised within 30 days, they said: >> Since I had incurred body damage the car was no longer new and the 30 day >> return policy was voided. > > Let me get this straight. YOU did damage to the car and YOU expected the > dealership to repair YOUR damage for free. Am I correct in the way I read > what you are saying? > he never should have taken the damaged car in the first place? |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com: > In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >, > Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table. > > ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ?? > > I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I pointed it out to the dealer. |
Re: Should I let dealer swap bumpers on new Accord?
Nobody wrote: > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop- > A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com: > > > In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >, > > Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table. > > > > ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ?? > > > > > > I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I pointed > it out to the dealer. You also pointed out that Patrick Maloney in now "Nobody". |
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Siskuwihane@gmail.com wrote in
news:1140880095.290534.134070@t39g2000cwt.googlegr oups.com: > > Nobody wrote: >> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop- >> A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com: >> >> > In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >, >> > Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table. >> > >> > ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ?? >> > >> > >> >> I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I >> pointed it out to the dealer. > > You also pointed out that Patrick Maloney in now "Nobody". > > Yup, you got me. Good job. |
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:31:03 GMT, Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Siskuwihane@gmail.com wrote in >news:1140880095.290534.134070@t39g2000cwt.googleg roups.com: > >> >> Nobody wrote: >>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop- >>> A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com: >>> >>> > In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >, >>> > Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table. >>> > >>> > ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ?? >>> > >>> > >>> >>> I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I >>> pointed it out to the dealer. >> >> You also pointed out that Patrick Maloney in now "Nobody". >> >> > >Yup, you got me. Good job. I pointed out the VIN sticker issue. Nobody ever thinks that far ahead. Chip |
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