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CaptainKrunch 01-31-2004 01:58 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Anytime your engine is able to generate more horsepower, for whatever
reason, you are putting more stress on other components such as connecting
rods, bearings, journals, etc. Obviously this will reduce engine longevity.

With a sparkplug change though it is a miniscule amount and like the other
poster said, the better your engine is tuned and the more efficient it is
operating, the longer it will likely last.

The change in performance you experience is most likely due to the
replacement of plugs as opposed to the type of plug you changed to.

CaptainKrunch


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




CaptainKrunch 01-31-2004 01:58 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Anytime your engine is able to generate more horsepower, for whatever
reason, you are putting more stress on other components such as connecting
rods, bearings, journals, etc. Obviously this will reduce engine longevity.

With a sparkplug change though it is a miniscule amount and like the other
poster said, the better your engine is tuned and the more efficient it is
operating, the longer it will likely last.

The change in performance you experience is most likely due to the
replacement of plugs as opposed to the type of plug you changed to.

CaptainKrunch


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




CaptainKrunch 01-31-2004 01:58 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Anytime your engine is able to generate more horsepower, for whatever
reason, you are putting more stress on other components such as connecting
rods, bearings, journals, etc. Obviously this will reduce engine longevity.

With a sparkplug change though it is a miniscule amount and like the other
poster said, the better your engine is tuned and the more efficient it is
operating, the longer it will likely last.

The change in performance you experience is most likely due to the
replacement of plugs as opposed to the type of plug you changed to.

CaptainKrunch


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




CaptainKrunch 01-31-2004 01:58 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Anytime your engine is able to generate more horsepower, for whatever
reason, you are putting more stress on other components such as connecting
rods, bearings, journals, etc. Obviously this will reduce engine longevity.

With a sparkplug change though it is a miniscule amount and like the other
poster said, the better your engine is tuned and the more efficient it is
operating, the longer it will likely last.

The change in performance you experience is most likely due to the
replacement of plugs as opposed to the type of plug you changed to.

CaptainKrunch


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




Dave 02-01-2004 12:23 PM

Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra money
$4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much quicker
and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words, if
the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
Thanks,



Jafir Elkurd 02-01-2004 01:46 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
If you noticed anything, it was probably just because your old plugs were
worn out. You'd likely have been just as happy with the NGK plugs for $2.

As far as wearing out the engine sooner, you don't have anything to worry
about spark plugs. If anything, the engine will last longer when properly
tuned up and running smoother.


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




Jafir Elkurd 02-01-2004 01:46 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
If you noticed anything, it was probably just because your old plugs were
worn out. You'd likely have been just as happy with the NGK plugs for $2.

As far as wearing out the engine sooner, you don't have anything to worry
about spark plugs. If anything, the engine will last longer when properly
tuned up and running smoother.


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




Jafir Elkurd 02-01-2004 01:46 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
If you noticed anything, it was probably just because your old plugs were
worn out. You'd likely have been just as happy with the NGK plugs for $2.

As far as wearing out the engine sooner, you don't have anything to worry
about spark plugs. If anything, the engine will last longer when properly
tuned up and running smoother.


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




Jafir Elkurd 02-01-2004 01:46 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
If you noticed anything, it was probably just because your old plugs were
worn out. You'd likely have been just as happy with the NGK plugs for $2.

As far as wearing out the engine sooner, you don't have anything to worry
about spark plugs. If anything, the engine will last longer when properly
tuned up and running smoother.


"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra

money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much

quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words,

if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,
>
>




agent smith 02-01-2004 02:12 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.



if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done other
mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


-agent smith



agent smith 02-01-2004 02:12 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.



if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done other
mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


-agent smith



agent smith 02-01-2004 02:12 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.



if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done other
mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


-agent smith



agent smith 02-01-2004 02:12 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.



if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done other
mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


-agent smith



Stephen Bigelow 02-01-2004 02:18 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:6ccTb.976$QU1.922@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> > I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.

>
>
> if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
> my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done

other
> mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


Changing from bad wires to good will certainly give you a boost.

Honda wires are top quality.



Stephen Bigelow 02-01-2004 02:18 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:6ccTb.976$QU1.922@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> > I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.

>
>
> if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
> my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done

other
> mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


Changing from bad wires to good will certainly give you a boost.

Honda wires are top quality.



Stephen Bigelow 02-01-2004 02:18 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:6ccTb.976$QU1.922@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> > I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.

>
>
> if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
> my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done

other
> mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


Changing from bad wires to good will certainly give you a boost.

Honda wires are top quality.



Stephen Bigelow 02-01-2004 02:18 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 

"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:6ccTb.976$QU1.922@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Dave" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> > I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.

>
>
> if you want a smidge more boost, change your plug wires as well. i changed
> my wires when i changed my plugs and saw a small boost, but i had done

other
> mods to my car aside from the plugs and plug wires...


Changing from bad wires to good will certainly give you a boost.

Honda wires are top quality.



T. Nelson 02-02-2004 03:28 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
In article <C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com>, "Dave"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words, if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,


I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that I read
in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled, "Honda and
Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes and Nobel
On page 81--it states:
"...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better than
conventional wires."

T. Nelson 02-02-2004 03:28 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
In article <C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com>, "Dave"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words, if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,


I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that I read
in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled, "Honda and
Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes and Nobel
On page 81--it states:
"...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better than
conventional wires."

T. Nelson 02-02-2004 03:28 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
In article <C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com>, "Dave"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words, if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,


I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that I read
in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled, "Honda and
Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes and Nobel
On page 81--it states:
"...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better than
conventional wires."

T. Nelson 02-02-2004 03:28 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
In article <C42dnY3TSN9uqIDdRVn-jQ@comcast.com>, "Dave"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> I have a '95 Accord LX, and recently installed the Bosch Pro2 plugs.
> The guys at the auto store convinced me they would be worth the extra money
> $4/each and I think they are beacause my car's acceleration is much quicker
> and smoother now...anyway, my question is this:
> Does improved performance have a point of diminishing returns when
> considering the overall life expectancy of the engine ? In other words, if
> the performance is too good, does the engine wear out faster ?
> Thanks,


I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that I read
in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled, "Honda and
Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes and Nobel
On page 81--it states:
"...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better than
conventional wires."

w_tom 02-03-2004 04:04 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Wires, properly selected, have no serious effect on
performance. Wires are and must be high resistance
conductors. Better conductive wires are actually bad for the
overall car. Only significant difference between cheap wires
and quality wires: quality wires use materials that do not
degrade over time. If better wires caused a significant
performance improvement, then automakers would simply increase
power output from ignition system. Better performance for
almost no cost.

Standard wires and ignition system provided by Honda are
about as good as it is going to get. Even GM products finally
conceded to using those better quality wires.

The old, low power, point and condenser ignition system was
sufficient. Only sufficient. Electronic ignition systems so
increased that power that 'better wires' will bring 'nothing
to the table'. Better wires last longer. That increased life
expectancy is the difference in ignition wires.

"T. Nelson" wrote:
> I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that
> I read in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled,
> "Honda and Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes
> and Nobel On page 81--it states:
> "...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better
> than conventional wires."


w_tom 02-03-2004 04:04 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Wires, properly selected, have no serious effect on
performance. Wires are and must be high resistance
conductors. Better conductive wires are actually bad for the
overall car. Only significant difference between cheap wires
and quality wires: quality wires use materials that do not
degrade over time. If better wires caused a significant
performance improvement, then automakers would simply increase
power output from ignition system. Better performance for
almost no cost.

Standard wires and ignition system provided by Honda are
about as good as it is going to get. Even GM products finally
conceded to using those better quality wires.

The old, low power, point and condenser ignition system was
sufficient. Only sufficient. Electronic ignition systems so
increased that power that 'better wires' will bring 'nothing
to the table'. Better wires last longer. That increased life
expectancy is the difference in ignition wires.

"T. Nelson" wrote:
> I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that
> I read in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled,
> "Honda and Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes
> and Nobel On page 81--it states:
> "...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better
> than conventional wires."


w_tom 02-03-2004 04:04 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Wires, properly selected, have no serious effect on
performance. Wires are and must be high resistance
conductors. Better conductive wires are actually bad for the
overall car. Only significant difference between cheap wires
and quality wires: quality wires use materials that do not
degrade over time. If better wires caused a significant
performance improvement, then automakers would simply increase
power output from ignition system. Better performance for
almost no cost.

Standard wires and ignition system provided by Honda are
about as good as it is going to get. Even GM products finally
conceded to using those better quality wires.

The old, low power, point and condenser ignition system was
sufficient. Only sufficient. Electronic ignition systems so
increased that power that 'better wires' will bring 'nothing
to the table'. Better wires last longer. That increased life
expectancy is the difference in ignition wires.

"T. Nelson" wrote:
> I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that
> I read in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled,
> "Honda and Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes
> and Nobel On page 81--it states:
> "...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better
> than conventional wires."


w_tom 02-03-2004 04:04 PM

Re: Spark Plugs, performance, and engine life question
 
Wires, properly selected, have no serious effect on
performance. Wires are and must be high resistance
conductors. Better conductive wires are actually bad for the
overall car. Only significant difference between cheap wires
and quality wires: quality wires use materials that do not
degrade over time. If better wires caused a significant
performance improvement, then automakers would simply increase
power output from ignition system. Better performance for
almost no cost.

Standard wires and ignition system provided by Honda are
about as good as it is going to get. Even GM products finally
conceded to using those better quality wires.

The old, low power, point and condenser ignition system was
sufficient. Only sufficient. Electronic ignition systems so
increased that power that 'better wires' will bring 'nothing
to the table'. Better wires last longer. That increased life
expectancy is the difference in ignition wires.

"T. Nelson" wrote:
> I agree with the other posters but would like to add something that
> I read in relation to spark plug wires. It's from a book entitled,
> "Honda and Acura Performance Handbook". I purchased it at Barnes
> and Nobel On page 81--it states:
> "...a set of high quality 8 mm wires can help boost spark better
> than conventional wires."



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