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Speed sensor or ?
I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX.
1.6 5 speed manual transmission. My speedometer works when it wants i.e. somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other days I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The one that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better than $150.00 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Will Will |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
"OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message
news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other > days > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The > one > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better > than $150.00 > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance, > Will > Will > > My educated guess is that the speed sensor will trigger the "check engine" light if it fails. My focus would be on the dash. If you have some nerve and circuit board experience, resoldering of the speedometer and/or replacement of the electrolytic capacitors in the speedometer would be a cheap and likely fix. Mike |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
"OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message
news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other > days > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The > one > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better > than $150.00 > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance, > Will > Will > > My educated guess is that the speed sensor will trigger the "check engine" light if it fails. My focus would be on the dash. If you have some nerve and circuit board experience, resoldering of the speedometer and/or replacement of the electrolytic capacitors in the speedometer would be a cheap and likely fix. Mike |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
I had the same problem on my 99 LX... It was the perfect oportunity
to replace it with one from an EX. Now I got a tach... whole thing from a wreck for $100cnd... Worked perfect ever since. "OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other > days > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The > one > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better > than $150.00 > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance, > Will > Will > > |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
I had the same problem on my 99 LX... It was the perfect oportunity
to replace it with one from an EX. Now I got a tach... whole thing from a wreck for $100cnd... Worked perfect ever since. "OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other > days > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The > one > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better > than $150.00 > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance, > Will > Will > > |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
OICU812 wrote: > > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other days > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The one > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better > than $150.00 > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance, > Will > Will I agree with Mike, a bad speed sensor (VSS) would turn on the MIL. When your speedometer fails, does the odometer still work? If so, you can be certain the VSS is fine, as the odometer uses the same VSS signal as the speedometer. |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
OICU812 wrote: > > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other days > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The one > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better > than $150.00 > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance, > Will > Will I agree with Mike, a bad speed sensor (VSS) would turn on the MIL. When your speedometer fails, does the odometer still work? If so, you can be certain the VSS is fine, as the odometer uses the same VSS signal as the speedometer. |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:42104417.D12B0867@junkmail.com... : : OICU812 wrote: : > : > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. : > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. : > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. : > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other days : > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would : > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the : > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in : > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The one : > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better : > than $150.00 : > Any help would be appreciated. : > Thanks in advance, : > Will : > Will : : I agree with Mike, a bad speed sensor (VSS) would turn on the MIL. When : your speedometer fails, does the odometer still work? Nope the whole thing gives up. If so, you can be : certain the VSS is fine, as the odometer uses the same VSS signal as the : speedometer. |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:42104417.D12B0867@junkmail.com... : : OICU812 wrote: : > : > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. : > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. : > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. : > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other days : > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would : > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the : > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in : > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The one : > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better : > than $150.00 : > Any help would be appreciated. : > Thanks in advance, : > Will : > Will : : I agree with Mike, a bad speed sensor (VSS) would turn on the MIL. When : your speedometer fails, does the odometer still work? Nope the whole thing gives up. If so, you can be : certain the VSS is fine, as the odometer uses the same VSS signal as the : speedometer. |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:5-udnabNBMkQm43fRVn-sw@sedona.net... : "OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message : news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... : > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. : > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. : > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. : > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other : > days : > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would : > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the : > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in : > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The : > one : > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better : > than $150.00 : > Any help would be appreciated. : > Thanks in advance, : > Will : > Will : > : > : My educated guess is that the speed sensor will trigger the "check engine" : light if it fails. My focus would be on the dash. If you have some nerve and : circuit board experience, resoldering of the speedometer and/or replacement : of the electrolytic capacitors in the speedometer would be a cheap and : likely fix. : : Mike I'm thinking of replacing the speedometer itself bcause in my original post I forgot to mention that when I'm driving the vehicle and the speedo's not working if you reset the trip meter sometimes that jogs the speedo into working for a second but quits again.That'swhy I was more inclined to believe it is in the dash. Oh and because I need a new catylitic converter the check engine light has been on fof about a month,it's not the oxygen sensor valve I replaced that and the check engine light came back on after like 200 miles or so anyway but but that's another can of worms I really don't want to get into right now,cat converters are not cheap.........anyway ya'll see what I'm sayin'. Thanks for your input everyone. |
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:5-udnabNBMkQm43fRVn-sw@sedona.net... : "OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message : news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... : > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. : > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. : > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. : > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo works.Other : > days : > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 miles.Would : > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the : > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part in : > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a junkyard.The : > one : > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for better : > than $150.00 : > Any help would be appreciated. : > Thanks in advance, : > Will : > Will : > : > : My educated guess is that the speed sensor will trigger the "check engine" : light if it fails. My focus would be on the dash. If you have some nerve and : circuit board experience, resoldering of the speedometer and/or replacement : of the electrolytic capacitors in the speedometer would be a cheap and : likely fix. : : Mike I'm thinking of replacing the speedometer itself bcause in my original post I forgot to mention that when I'm driving the vehicle and the speedo's not working if you reset the trip meter sometimes that jogs the speedo into working for a second but quits again.That'swhy I was more inclined to believe it is in the dash. Oh and because I need a new catylitic converter the check engine light has been on fof about a month,it's not the oxygen sensor valve I replaced that and the check engine light came back on after like 200 miles or so anyway but but that's another can of worms I really don't want to get into right now,cat converters are not cheap.........anyway ya'll see what I'm sayin'. Thanks for your input everyone. |
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"OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message
news:jZKdnerm2fk84o3fRVn-hA@adelphia.com... > > "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message > news:5-udnabNBMkQm43fRVn-sw@sedona.net... > : "OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message > : news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... > : > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > : > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > : > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > : > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo > works.Other > : > days > : > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 > miles.Would > : > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > : > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part > in > : > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a > junkyard.The > : > one > : > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for > better > : > than $150.00 > : > Any help would be appreciated. > : > Thanks in advance, > : > Will > : > Will > : > > : > > : My educated guess is that the speed sensor will trigger the "check > engine" > : light if it fails. My focus would be on the dash. If you have some nerve > and > : circuit board experience, resoldering of the speedometer and/or > replacement > : of the electrolytic capacitors in the speedometer would be a cheap and > : likely fix. > : > : Mike > > I'm thinking of replacing the speedometer itself bcause in my original > post > I forgot to mention that when I'm driving the vehicle and the speedo's not > working if you reset the trip meter sometimes that jogs the speedo into > working for a second but quits again.That'swhy I was more inclined to > believe it is in the dash. > Oh and because I need a new catylitic converter the check engine light has > been on fof about a month,it's not the oxygen sensor valve I replaced that > and the check engine light came back on after like 200 miles or so anyway > but but that's another can of worms I really don't want to get into right > now,cat converters are not cheap.........anyway ya'll see what I'm sayin'. > Thanks for your input everyone. > > Good clue - I'd place my bets on solder connections in the dash, especially on the connector where it attaches to the circuit board. Mike |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
"OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message
news:jZKdnerm2fk84o3fRVn-hA@adelphia.com... > > "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message > news:5-udnabNBMkQm43fRVn-sw@sedona.net... > : "OICU812" <oicu8122@emailaccount.comnospam> wrote in message > : news:g5WdnSSfU9acRZLfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com... > : > I have a question concerning my 96 Honda Civic DX. > : > 1.6 5 speed manual transmission. > : > My speedometer works when it wants i.e. > : > somketimes I'll get in the can and drive off and the speedo > works.Other > : > days > : > I'll be driving up the road and it won't work for say 10 or 15 > miles.Would > : > you say it's the speed sensor that goes into the transmission or the > : > indicator in the dash itself.Either way it's not good because the part > in > : > the dash has to be either obtained from a Honda dealer or a > junkyard.The > : > one > : > that goes in the transmission I priced at an auto parts store for > better > : > than $150.00 > : > Any help would be appreciated. > : > Thanks in advance, > : > Will > : > Will > : > > : > > : My educated guess is that the speed sensor will trigger the "check > engine" > : light if it fails. My focus would be on the dash. If you have some nerve > and > : circuit board experience, resoldering of the speedometer and/or > replacement > : of the electrolytic capacitors in the speedometer would be a cheap and > : likely fix. > : > : Mike > > I'm thinking of replacing the speedometer itself bcause in my original > post > I forgot to mention that when I'm driving the vehicle and the speedo's not > working if you reset the trip meter sometimes that jogs the speedo into > working for a second but quits again.That'swhy I was more inclined to > believe it is in the dash. > Oh and because I need a new catylitic converter the check engine light has > been on fof about a month,it's not the oxygen sensor valve I replaced that > and the check engine light came back on after like 200 miles or so anyway > but but that's another can of worms I really don't want to get into right > now,cat converters are not cheap.........anyway ya'll see what I'm sayin'. > Thanks for your input everyone. > > Good clue - I'd place my bets on solder connections in the dash, especially on the connector where it attaches to the circuit board. Mike |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
Although the following may not be helpful it may be inciteful. or even
relevant. I had the same problem on a Rodeo which I now describe. The speed sensor is attached to the transmission. Inside the speed sensor is a nylon gear that petrudes into the transmission. When the gear spins, a magnet spins and sends a signal to the Engine Control Module(ECM). The gear is cheap and easy to replace. You just remove the screws that hold the sensor to the transmission - it will be obvious if that is the problem. You only purchase the nylon screw - not the entire sensor. (In my case the failure occured at 100K miles). The sensor has a cable to the ECM. From the ECM is a computer like ribbon cable that goes to the instrument panel. Just like in a PC, the ribbon cable terminates at the back of the instrument panel. The back of hte instrument panel is basically like a printed circuit board that routes the signals to the various instruments. Each instrument is fastened to the printed circuit board. (I got involved in the instrument panel for a tach problem - not the speedomenter problem). The instrument panel is relatively delicate and if you start fussing around with the speedometer or tachometer - there is a high likelihood that it will be damaged. These instruments are expensive to replace. Its hard to find matching parts in the junk yard - in fact everyone I found seemed to just sell the entire panel. In terms of the most likely of problems - moving parts usuall fail. |
Re: Speed sensor or ?
Although the following may not be helpful it may be inciteful. or even
relevant. I had the same problem on a Rodeo which I now describe. The speed sensor is attached to the transmission. Inside the speed sensor is a nylon gear that petrudes into the transmission. When the gear spins, a magnet spins and sends a signal to the Engine Control Module(ECM). The gear is cheap and easy to replace. You just remove the screws that hold the sensor to the transmission - it will be obvious if that is the problem. You only purchase the nylon screw - not the entire sensor. (In my case the failure occured at 100K miles). The sensor has a cable to the ECM. From the ECM is a computer like ribbon cable that goes to the instrument panel. Just like in a PC, the ribbon cable terminates at the back of the instrument panel. The back of hte instrument panel is basically like a printed circuit board that routes the signals to the various instruments. Each instrument is fastened to the printed circuit board. (I got involved in the instrument panel for a tach problem - not the speedomenter problem). The instrument panel is relatively delicate and if you start fussing around with the speedometer or tachometer - there is a high likelihood that it will be damaged. These instruments are expensive to replace. Its hard to find matching parts in the junk yard - in fact everyone I found seemed to just sell the entire panel. In terms of the most likely of problems - moving parts usuall fail. |
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