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T. Nelson 02-24-2004 12:20 PM

Re: starting problems
 
In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<no_emails_please> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
> first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start it
> the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the car
> automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
> start the car while it's already running.
>
> Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but it
> could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
> "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night, and
> it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if this
> has anything to do with it.
>
> TIA
>
> --Viktor


Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
found--please post it.
try this site--it might have the information
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html

electricked 02-24-2004 01:01 PM

Re: starting problems
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns94996EA662A7Fjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. .
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in
> news:KKGdnfVZGvjQeqfdRVn-gg@comcast.com:
>
>
>
> > Do you think the flywheel gear will hold like that if I replace the
> > pinion gear on the starter?

>
> If the flywheel teeth are bad enough,they will damage the new starter

drive
> gear,when it slips and gnashes against the next group of flywheel teeth.
> Your flywheel and starter gears probably were originally damaged when
> someone kept cranking the motor after it had already started.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net


I don't want to embarass the person who did it because he's my father! Heh
it slipped. Anyway... He thinks he knows everything. I told him to stop
trying to start the car before we knew what the problems was but he's very
persuasive. I thought it was the starter giving up or with worn out teeth
since I had bought a less quality starter but after I removed it I noticed
the flywheel teeth are 1/16-1/8 gone and the starter pinion gear is almost
brand as new.

How much would it cost to fix it up? I don't have the proper tools nor time
at the moment to remove the whole transmission.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

--Viktor



electricked 02-24-2004 01:01 PM

Re: starting problems
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns94996EA662A7Fjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. .
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in
> news:KKGdnfVZGvjQeqfdRVn-gg@comcast.com:
>
>
>
> > Do you think the flywheel gear will hold like that if I replace the
> > pinion gear on the starter?

>
> If the flywheel teeth are bad enough,they will damage the new starter

drive
> gear,when it slips and gnashes against the next group of flywheel teeth.
> Your flywheel and starter gears probably were originally damaged when
> someone kept cranking the motor after it had already started.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net


I don't want to embarass the person who did it because he's my father! Heh
it slipped. Anyway... He thinks he knows everything. I told him to stop
trying to start the car before we knew what the problems was but he's very
persuasive. I thought it was the starter giving up or with worn out teeth
since I had bought a less quality starter but after I removed it I noticed
the flywheel teeth are 1/16-1/8 gone and the starter pinion gear is almost
brand as new.

How much would it cost to fix it up? I don't have the proper tools nor time
at the moment to remove the whole transmission.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

--Viktor



electricked 02-24-2004 01:01 PM

Re: starting problems
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns94996EA662A7Fjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. .
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in
> news:KKGdnfVZGvjQeqfdRVn-gg@comcast.com:
>
>
>
> > Do you think the flywheel gear will hold like that if I replace the
> > pinion gear on the starter?

>
> If the flywheel teeth are bad enough,they will damage the new starter

drive
> gear,when it slips and gnashes against the next group of flywheel teeth.
> Your flywheel and starter gears probably were originally damaged when
> someone kept cranking the motor after it had already started.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net


I don't want to embarass the person who did it because he's my father! Heh
it slipped. Anyway... He thinks he knows everything. I told him to stop
trying to start the car before we knew what the problems was but he's very
persuasive. I thought it was the starter giving up or with worn out teeth
since I had bought a less quality starter but after I removed it I noticed
the flywheel teeth are 1/16-1/8 gone and the starter pinion gear is almost
brand as new.

How much would it cost to fix it up? I don't have the proper tools nor time
at the moment to remove the whole transmission.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

--Viktor



electricked 02-24-2004 05:56 PM

Re: starting problems
 
Yeah there's a recall for the ignition switch and the tranny. Does the
recall mean they should fix it for free if it's broken? If so, what if I've
replaced the stock one once due to problems and now it's broken again?

--Viktor

"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-2402040920150001@pm2-broad-170.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
> <no_emails_please> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
> > first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start

it
> > the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the

car
> > automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
> > start the car while it's already running.
> >
> > Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but

it
> > could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
> > "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night,

and
> > it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if

this
> > has anything to do with it.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --Viktor

>
> Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
> Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
> ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
> someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
> found--please post it.
> try this site--it might have the information
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html




electricked 02-24-2004 05:56 PM

Re: starting problems
 
Yeah there's a recall for the ignition switch and the tranny. Does the
recall mean they should fix it for free if it's broken? If so, what if I've
replaced the stock one once due to problems and now it's broken again?

--Viktor

"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-2402040920150001@pm2-broad-170.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
> <no_emails_please> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
> > first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start

it
> > the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the

car
> > automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
> > start the car while it's already running.
> >
> > Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but

it
> > could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
> > "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night,

and
> > it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if

this
> > has anything to do with it.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --Viktor

>
> Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
> Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
> ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
> someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
> found--please post it.
> try this site--it might have the information
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html




electricked 02-24-2004 05:56 PM

Re: starting problems
 
Yeah there's a recall for the ignition switch and the tranny. Does the
recall mean they should fix it for free if it's broken? If so, what if I've
replaced the stock one once due to problems and now it's broken again?

--Viktor

"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-2402040920150001@pm2-broad-170.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
> <no_emails_please> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
> > first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start

it
> > the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the

car
> > automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
> > start the car while it's already running.
> >
> > Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but

it
> > could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
> > "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night,

and
> > it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if

this
> > has anything to do with it.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --Viktor

>
> Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
> Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
> ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
> someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
> found--please post it.
> try this site--it might have the information
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html




E. Meyer 02-24-2004 07:45 PM

Re: starting problems
 
On 2/24/04 11:20 AM, in article
tnelson-2402040920150001@pm2-broad-1...dialup.fix.net, "T. Nelson"
<tnelson@nospam.com> wrote:

> In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
> <no_emails_please> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
>> first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start it
>> the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the car
>> automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
>> start the car while it's already running.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but it
>> could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
>> "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night, and
>> it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if this
>> has anything to do with it.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> --Viktor

>
> Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
> Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
> ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
> someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
> found--please post it.
> try this site--it might have the information
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html


This does not sound anything like the ignition switch problem.


E. Meyer 02-24-2004 07:45 PM

Re: starting problems
 
On 2/24/04 11:20 AM, in article
tnelson-2402040920150001@pm2-broad-1...dialup.fix.net, "T. Nelson"
<tnelson@nospam.com> wrote:

> In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
> <no_emails_please> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
>> first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start it
>> the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the car
>> automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
>> start the car while it's already running.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but it
>> could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
>> "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night, and
>> it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if this
>> has anything to do with it.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> --Viktor

>
> Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
> Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
> ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
> someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
> found--please post it.
> try this site--it might have the information
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html


This does not sound anything like the ignition switch problem.


E. Meyer 02-24-2004 07:45 PM

Re: starting problems
 
On 2/24/04 11:20 AM, in article
tnelson-2402040920150001@pm2-broad-1...dialup.fix.net, "T. Nelson"
<tnelson@nospam.com> wrote:

> In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
> <no_emails_please> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
>> first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start it
>> the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the car
>> automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
>> start the car while it's already running.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but it
>> could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
>> "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night, and
>> it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if this
>> has anything to do with it.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> --Viktor

>
> Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
> Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
> ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
> someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
> found--please post it.
> try this site--it might have the information
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html


This does not sound anything like the ignition switch problem.


E. Meyer 02-24-2004 07:45 PM

Re: starting problems
 
On 2/24/04 11:20 AM, in article
tnelson-2402040920150001@pm2-broad-1...dialup.fix.net, "T. Nelson"
<tnelson@nospam.com> wrote:

> In article <wd2dnSzvuoNu_afdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "electricked"
> <no_emails_please> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This morning I tried starting my 98 accord and it woudln't start on the
>> first go. A few more tries and it would start. Now, when I try to start it
>> the engine spins for a second then stops, then half a second later the car
>> automatically starts and I hear the noise that comes out when you try to
>> start the car while it's already running.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be causing this? I'm thinking it's the starter but it
>> could be something else (fuel related maybe?) On saturday night I put a
>> "fuel injector cleaner" on a full tank of gas, drove it the whole night, and
>> it's been sitting like this until this morning (monday). Wondering if this
>> has anything to do with it.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> --Viktor

>
> Your car might be covered under the recall. I know for sure that many 1999
> Honda Accords--they look exactly like 1998 Accords--were recalled due to
> ignition switch problems. You should ask your dealer about the recall. If
> someone knows the website where the information about the recall can be
> found--please post it.
> try this site--it might have the information
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/992425AW.html


This does not sound anything like the ignition switch problem.


T. Nelson 02-26-2004 06:09 PM

Re: starting problems
 
In article <atednf0TmvzDJ6bdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<no_emails_please> wrote:

> Yeah there's a recall for the ignition switch and the tranny. Does the
> recall mean they should fix it for free if it's broken? If so, what if I've
> replaced the stock one once due to problems and now it's broken again?
>
> --Viktor

Viktor,
I don't know the answer to your question but when I asked the service
manager about it, he typed the number that is engraved on the top of the
dashboard in his computer and it showed that my car was not covered by the
recall. He may have been lying to me since I have a 1999 Accord. I made a
hard copy of the items from the web site related to the recall and will
use them if I ever have problems with my ignition switch. The service
manager at your dealership should be able to answer your questions. Ask
for a hard copy of anything he finds on his computer related to your
vehicle.

T. Nelson 02-26-2004 06:09 PM

Re: starting problems
 
In article <atednf0TmvzDJ6bdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<no_emails_please> wrote:

> Yeah there's a recall for the ignition switch and the tranny. Does the
> recall mean they should fix it for free if it's broken? If so, what if I've
> replaced the stock one once due to problems and now it's broken again?
>
> --Viktor

Viktor,
I don't know the answer to your question but when I asked the service
manager about it, he typed the number that is engraved on the top of the
dashboard in his computer and it showed that my car was not covered by the
recall. He may have been lying to me since I have a 1999 Accord. I made a
hard copy of the items from the web site related to the recall and will
use them if I ever have problems with my ignition switch. The service
manager at your dealership should be able to answer your questions. Ask
for a hard copy of anything he finds on his computer related to your
vehicle.

T. Nelson 02-26-2004 06:09 PM

Re: starting problems
 
In article <atednf0TmvzDJ6bdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<no_emails_please> wrote:

> Yeah there's a recall for the ignition switch and the tranny. Does the
> recall mean they should fix it for free if it's broken? If so, what if I've
> replaced the stock one once due to problems and now it's broken again?
>
> --Viktor

Viktor,
I don't know the answer to your question but when I asked the service
manager about it, he typed the number that is engraved on the top of the
dashboard in his computer and it showed that my car was not covered by the
recall. He may have been lying to me since I have a 1999 Accord. I made a
hard copy of the items from the web site related to the recall and will
use them if I ever have problems with my ignition switch. The service
manager at your dealership should be able to answer your questions. Ask
for a hard copy of anything he finds on his computer related to your
vehicle.

T. Nelson 02-26-2004 06:09 PM

Re: starting problems
 
In article <atednf0TmvzDJ6bdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<no_emails_please> wrote:

> Yeah there's a recall for the ignition switch and the tranny. Does the
> recall mean they should fix it for free if it's broken? If so, what if I've
> replaced the stock one once due to problems and now it's broken again?
>
> --Viktor

Viktor,
I don't know the answer to your question but when I asked the service
manager about it, he typed the number that is engraved on the top of the
dashboard in his computer and it showed that my car was not covered by the
recall. He may have been lying to me since I have a 1999 Accord. I made a
hard copy of the items from the web site related to the recall and will
use them if I ever have problems with my ignition switch. The service
manager at your dealership should be able to answer your questions. Ask
for a hard copy of anything he finds on his computer related to your
vehicle.


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