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Joe LaVigne 10-19-2006 04:27 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 
On 19 Oct 2006 00:35:34 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote:

> "Hondamom" <u28032@uwe> wrote in news:67f69796261a5@uwe:
>
>> So, you can just keep adding steering fluid? I think it's the steering
>> fluid leak since I have to add some every now and then and my car
>> smokes because the leak I think drops on some metals inside.

>
> Then it can't be the steering rack because that is forward of and below any
> hot parts. Maybe it's the power steering pump? Or hose TO the rack?
>
> Maybe the smoke is coming from some other leak.


My only experience with this problem was on a 1997 Dodge Caravan, which was
caused by a rotted Power Steering Pump, so this may be the case.

--
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jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 10/19/2006 4:26:59 AM
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Joe LaVigne 10-19-2006 04:27 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 
On 19 Oct 2006 00:35:34 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote:

> "Hondamom" <u28032@uwe> wrote in news:67f69796261a5@uwe:
>
>> So, you can just keep adding steering fluid? I think it's the steering
>> fluid leak since I have to add some every now and then and my car
>> smokes because the leak I think drops on some metals inside.

>
> Then it can't be the steering rack because that is forward of and below any
> hot parts. Maybe it's the power steering pump? Or hose TO the rack?
>
> Maybe the smoke is coming from some other leak.


My only experience with this problem was on a 1997 Dodge Caravan, which was
caused by a rotted Power Steering Pump, so this may be the case.

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 10/19/2006 4:26:59 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

"For thy sake, tobacco, I would do anything but die."

-Charles Lamb

Joe LaVigne 10-19-2006 04:27 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 
On 19 Oct 2006 00:35:34 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote:

> "Hondamom" <u28032@uwe> wrote in news:67f69796261a5@uwe:
>
>> So, you can just keep adding steering fluid? I think it's the steering
>> fluid leak since I have to add some every now and then and my car
>> smokes because the leak I think drops on some metals inside.

>
> Then it can't be the steering rack because that is forward of and below any
> hot parts. Maybe it's the power steering pump? Or hose TO the rack?
>
> Maybe the smoke is coming from some other leak.


My only experience with this problem was on a 1997 Dodge Caravan, which was
caused by a rotted Power Steering Pump, so this may be the case.

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 10/19/2006 4:26:59 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

"For thy sake, tobacco, I would do anything but die."

-Charles Lamb

roadrunner 10-28-2006 06:51 PM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Ghislain wrote:
> Honda steering racks do fail. I own a 2001 Acura TL and the steering rack
> has been replaced twice. The firast one was noisy when turning the wheels in
> a driveway and the second one was making noise whenever I drove over a speed
> bump. The first one was under warranty and I only paid for labor when the
> second one was replaced last week at 81,500 kms. Honda accepted to pay for
> the steering rack because it had less than 40K kms.

Wow, that's one or 2 too many racks to replace.
Well, I have limited warranty, as I purchased car 3 mths ago at 60km so
I pay for part but not labour. So I think I'll go ahead & get new part.
Hopefully that's it for major part replacement for a few thou more kms.
thanks.


roadrunner 10-28-2006 06:51 PM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Ghislain wrote:
> Honda steering racks do fail. I own a 2001 Acura TL and the steering rack
> has been replaced twice. The firast one was noisy when turning the wheels in
> a driveway and the second one was making noise whenever I drove over a speed
> bump. The first one was under warranty and I only paid for labor when the
> second one was replaced last week at 81,500 kms. Honda accepted to pay for
> the steering rack because it had less than 40K kms.

Wow, that's one or 2 too many racks to replace.
Well, I have limited warranty, as I purchased car 3 mths ago at 60km so
I pay for part but not labour. So I think I'll go ahead & get new part.
Hopefully that's it for major part replacement for a few thou more kms.
thanks.


roadrunner 10-28-2006 06:51 PM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Ghislain wrote:
> Honda steering racks do fail. I own a 2001 Acura TL and the steering rack
> has been replaced twice. The firast one was noisy when turning the wheels in
> a driveway and the second one was making noise whenever I drove over a speed
> bump. The first one was under warranty and I only paid for labor when the
> second one was replaced last week at 81,500 kms. Honda accepted to pay for
> the steering rack because it had less than 40K kms.

Wow, that's one or 2 too many racks to replace.
Well, I have limited warranty, as I purchased car 3 mths ago at 60km so
I pay for part but not labour. So I think I'll go ahead & get new part.
Hopefully that's it for major part replacement for a few thou more kms.
thanks.


roadrunner 10-28-2006 06:51 PM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Ghislain wrote:
> Honda steering racks do fail. I own a 2001 Acura TL and the steering rack
> has been replaced twice. The firast one was noisy when turning the wheels in
> a driveway and the second one was making noise whenever I drove over a speed
> bump. The first one was under warranty and I only paid for labor when the
> second one was replaced last week at 81,500 kms. Honda accepted to pay for
> the steering rack because it had less than 40K kms.

Wow, that's one or 2 too many racks to replace.
Well, I have limited warranty, as I purchased car 3 mths ago at 60km so
I pay for part but not labour. So I think I'll go ahead & get new part.
Hopefully that's it for major part replacement for a few thou more kms.
thanks.


nm5k@wt.net 10-30-2006 12:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Hondamom wrote:
> So, you can just keep adding steering fluid? I think it's the steering fluid
> leak since I have to add some every now and then and my car smokes because
> the leak I think drops on some metals inside. I check the oil sometimes and
> I don't have to add anything to it so, the power steering fluid is the one
> that leaks.


If it's smoking, you probably have a shot valve cover gasket
that is letting oil drip on the exhaust. Mine did that when I
first got it. I replaced the valve cover gasket, and cured that
problem. The old ones get real hard and don't seal well.
If the pump seal is leaking, you will see oil spun off the steering
pump pully, and on the belts, etc. Also, it will be dripping under
the pump area. If it's bad enough, it will leave fluid on the ground.
If the pump pully is dry, and no signs of fluid anywhere around the
pump, it's probably the rack leaking if not a hose. The PS pump
leak is not in a position to leak on the exhaust. I know this cuz
my pump is presently leaking.. :( I have to add a dab every few
days. I'm going to change my pump when I do my timing belt, etc..
I don't like the leak. Not so much that I have to add it, but it's
slinging
oil on my belts.
MK


nm5k@wt.net 10-30-2006 12:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Hondamom wrote:
> So, you can just keep adding steering fluid? I think it's the steering fluid
> leak since I have to add some every now and then and my car smokes because
> the leak I think drops on some metals inside. I check the oil sometimes and
> I don't have to add anything to it so, the power steering fluid is the one
> that leaks.


If it's smoking, you probably have a shot valve cover gasket
that is letting oil drip on the exhaust. Mine did that when I
first got it. I replaced the valve cover gasket, and cured that
problem. The old ones get real hard and don't seal well.
If the pump seal is leaking, you will see oil spun off the steering
pump pully, and on the belts, etc. Also, it will be dripping under
the pump area. If it's bad enough, it will leave fluid on the ground.
If the pump pully is dry, and no signs of fluid anywhere around the
pump, it's probably the rack leaking if not a hose. The PS pump
leak is not in a position to leak on the exhaust. I know this cuz
my pump is presently leaking.. :( I have to add a dab every few
days. I'm going to change my pump when I do my timing belt, etc..
I don't like the leak. Not so much that I have to add it, but it's
slinging
oil on my belts.
MK


nm5k@wt.net 10-30-2006 12:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Hondamom wrote:
> So, you can just keep adding steering fluid? I think it's the steering fluid
> leak since I have to add some every now and then and my car smokes because
> the leak I think drops on some metals inside. I check the oil sometimes and
> I don't have to add anything to it so, the power steering fluid is the one
> that leaks.


If it's smoking, you probably have a shot valve cover gasket
that is letting oil drip on the exhaust. Mine did that when I
first got it. I replaced the valve cover gasket, and cured that
problem. The old ones get real hard and don't seal well.
If the pump seal is leaking, you will see oil spun off the steering
pump pully, and on the belts, etc. Also, it will be dripping under
the pump area. If it's bad enough, it will leave fluid on the ground.
If the pump pully is dry, and no signs of fluid anywhere around the
pump, it's probably the rack leaking if not a hose. The PS pump
leak is not in a position to leak on the exhaust. I know this cuz
my pump is presently leaking.. :( I have to add a dab every few
days. I'm going to change my pump when I do my timing belt, etc..
I don't like the leak. Not so much that I have to add it, but it's
slinging
oil on my belts.
MK


nm5k@wt.net 10-30-2006 12:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 

Hondamom wrote:
> So, you can just keep adding steering fluid? I think it's the steering fluid
> leak since I have to add some every now and then and my car smokes because
> the leak I think drops on some metals inside. I check the oil sometimes and
> I don't have to add anything to it so, the power steering fluid is the one
> that leaks.


If it's smoking, you probably have a shot valve cover gasket
that is letting oil drip on the exhaust. Mine did that when I
first got it. I replaced the valve cover gasket, and cured that
problem. The old ones get real hard and don't seal well.
If the pump seal is leaking, you will see oil spun off the steering
pump pully, and on the belts, etc. Also, it will be dripping under
the pump area. If it's bad enough, it will leave fluid on the ground.
If the pump pully is dry, and no signs of fluid anywhere around the
pump, it's probably the rack leaking if not a hose. The PS pump
leak is not in a position to leak on the exhaust. I know this cuz
my pump is presently leaking.. :( I have to add a dab every few
days. I'm going to change my pump when I do my timing belt, etc..
I don't like the leak. Not so much that I have to add it, but it's
slinging
oil on my belts.
MK


cloadsun 10-30-2006 10:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 
hi, i have the same problem... 2002 honda accord SE with 59000 miles on
it - leaking powers steering fluid from the rack...estimated 1000$
replacement charge... shame on honda!!! they should have replaced it
for free!!!


roadrunner wrote:
> I have a 2002 (new to me - purchased 3 mths ago) Honda Accord which I
> took in to the dealer recently & found out it has a steering rack leak
> - not what one expects on a car with only about 65,000km. Has anyone
> else experienced this kind of problem with the Accord? My confidence in
> the car (which has been terrific - I love driving this car) has been
> shaken by the news of a hefty replacement.



cloadsun 10-30-2006 10:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 
hi, i have the same problem... 2002 honda accord SE with 59000 miles on
it - leaking powers steering fluid from the rack...estimated 1000$
replacement charge... shame on honda!!! they should have replaced it
for free!!!


roadrunner wrote:
> I have a 2002 (new to me - purchased 3 mths ago) Honda Accord which I
> took in to the dealer recently & found out it has a steering rack leak
> - not what one expects on a car with only about 65,000km. Has anyone
> else experienced this kind of problem with the Accord? My confidence in
> the car (which has been terrific - I love driving this car) has been
> shaken by the news of a hefty replacement.



cloadsun 10-30-2006 10:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 
hi, i have the same problem... 2002 honda accord SE with 59000 miles on
it - leaking powers steering fluid from the rack...estimated 1000$
replacement charge... shame on honda!!! they should have replaced it
for free!!!


roadrunner wrote:
> I have a 2002 (new to me - purchased 3 mths ago) Honda Accord which I
> took in to the dealer recently & found out it has a steering rack leak
> - not what one expects on a car with only about 65,000km. Has anyone
> else experienced this kind of problem with the Accord? My confidence in
> the car (which has been terrific - I love driving this car) has been
> shaken by the news of a hefty replacement.



cloadsun 10-30-2006 10:31 AM

Re: steering rack problem
 
hi, i have the same problem... 2002 honda accord SE with 59000 miles on
it - leaking powers steering fluid from the rack...estimated 1000$
replacement charge... shame on honda!!! they should have replaced it
for free!!!


roadrunner wrote:
> I have a 2002 (new to me - purchased 3 mths ago) Honda Accord which I
> took in to the dealer recently & found out it has a steering rack leak
> - not what one expects on a car with only about 65,000km. Has anyone
> else experienced this kind of problem with the Accord? My confidence in
> the car (which has been terrific - I love driving this car) has been
> shaken by the news of a hefty replacement.




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