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Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:14:37 -0500, "Scott MacLean"
<scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote: >"Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message >news:is72sv8gjouneuv72dt20ud9c003tsr20p@4ax.com.. . >> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:48:50 GMT, gbsmith <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote: >> >> >I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 MPG, >> >city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into neutral at >> >red lights, and I swear I have been driving feather-light on the >> >accelerator. >> > >> >What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it. >> >> Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital >> friction of newly machined parts. > >No, no no!! There is SUPPOSED to be friction between newly machined parts in >the engine when it is being broken in. That's why they use special engine >oil for the break-in period. Do not change the oil until the manual >specifies it is to be changed. Scott's right. You don't wanna be changing your oil too soon with a new car. Should wait the full mileage before getting your first oil change. Actually, I've been told for the first three oil changes, shouldn't do it sooner than necessary. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:14:37 -0500, "Scott MacLean"
<scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote: >"Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message >news:is72sv8gjouneuv72dt20ud9c003tsr20p@4ax.com.. . >> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:48:50 GMT, gbsmith <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote: >> >> >I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 MPG, >> >city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into neutral at >> >red lights, and I swear I have been driving feather-light on the >> >accelerator. >> > >> >What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it. >> >> Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital >> friction of newly machined parts. > >No, no no!! There is SUPPOSED to be friction between newly machined parts in >the engine when it is being broken in. That's why they use special engine >oil for the break-in period. Do not change the oil until the manual >specifies it is to be changed. Scott's right. You don't wanna be changing your oil too soon with a new car. Should wait the full mileage before getting your first oil change. Actually, I've been told for the first three oil changes, shouldn't do it sooner than necessary. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:14:37 -0500, "Scott MacLean"
<scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote: >"Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message >news:is72sv8gjouneuv72dt20ud9c003tsr20p@4ax.com.. . >> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:48:50 GMT, gbsmith <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote: >> >> >I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 MPG, >> >city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into neutral at >> >red lights, and I swear I have been driving feather-light on the >> >accelerator. >> > >> >What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it. >> >> Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital >> friction of newly machined parts. > >No, no no!! There is SUPPOSED to be friction between newly machined parts in >the engine when it is being broken in. That's why they use special engine >oil for the break-in period. Do not change the oil until the manual >specifies it is to be changed. Scott's right. You don't wanna be changing your oil too soon with a new car. Should wait the full mileage before getting your first oil change. Actually, I've been told for the first three oil changes, shouldn't do it sooner than necessary. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
Chris wrote:
> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports > road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is > always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 > miles the engine performs much more efficiently. > Fear not! > -chris But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K mi....... > > "gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message > news:wR9wb.5090$aw2.1587814@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com... >> I'll check the tire inflation when the rain stops. I'm sure brakes >> could be dragging a bit, new car, all tightly adjusted. >> >> I use 87 octane for gas. I'll not change the oil until the car >> reaches 5000 miles as per the Honda recommendations. When I do >> change, I'll take it to the dealer. They offer a $14.95 oil change. >> What's in it for them, I guess, is their assurance that the car is >> being maintained with Honda parts, thus overall I'm less likely to >> need to take advantage of the warranty. >> >> Phisherman wrote: >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:48:50 GMT, gbsmith <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 >>>> MPG, city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into >>>> neutral at red lights, and I swear I have been driving >>>> feather-light on the accelerator. >>>> >>>> What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it. >>> >>> >>> Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital >>> friction of newly machined parts. Brakes dragging, improper tire >>> inflation, bad gas, etc, etc. I recommend Casterol oil, but >>> whatever you initially use keep using that same brand. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
Chris wrote:
> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports > road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is > always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 > miles the engine performs much more efficiently. > Fear not! > -chris But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K mi....... > > "gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message > news:wR9wb.5090$aw2.1587814@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com... >> I'll check the tire inflation when the rain stops. I'm sure brakes >> could be dragging a bit, new car, all tightly adjusted. >> >> I use 87 octane for gas. I'll not change the oil until the car >> reaches 5000 miles as per the Honda recommendations. When I do >> change, I'll take it to the dealer. They offer a $14.95 oil change. >> What's in it for them, I guess, is their assurance that the car is >> being maintained with Honda parts, thus overall I'm less likely to >> need to take advantage of the warranty. >> >> Phisherman wrote: >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:48:50 GMT, gbsmith <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 >>>> MPG, city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into >>>> neutral at red lights, and I swear I have been driving >>>> feather-light on the accelerator. >>>> >>>> What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it. >>> >>> >>> Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital >>> friction of newly machined parts. Brakes dragging, improper tire >>> inflation, bad gas, etc, etc. I recommend Casterol oil, but >>> whatever you initially use keep using that same brand. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
Chris wrote:
> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports > road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is > always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 > miles the engine performs much more efficiently. > Fear not! > -chris But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K mi....... > > "gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message > news:wR9wb.5090$aw2.1587814@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com... >> I'll check the tire inflation when the rain stops. I'm sure brakes >> could be dragging a bit, new car, all tightly adjusted. >> >> I use 87 octane for gas. I'll not change the oil until the car >> reaches 5000 miles as per the Honda recommendations. When I do >> change, I'll take it to the dealer. They offer a $14.95 oil change. >> What's in it for them, I guess, is their assurance that the car is >> being maintained with Honda parts, thus overall I'm less likely to >> need to take advantage of the warranty. >> >> Phisherman wrote: >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:48:50 GMT, gbsmith <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 >>>> MPG, city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into >>>> neutral at red lights, and I swear I have been driving >>>> feather-light on the accelerator. >>>> >>>> What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it. >>> >>> >>> Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital >>> friction of newly machined parts. Brakes dragging, improper tire >>> inflation, bad gas, etc, etc. I recommend Casterol oil, but >>> whatever you initially use keep using that same brand. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
Chris wrote:
> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports > road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is > always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 > miles the engine performs much more efficiently. > Fear not! > -chris But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K mi....... > > "gbsmith" <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote in message > news:wR9wb.5090$aw2.1587814@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com... >> I'll check the tire inflation when the rain stops. I'm sure brakes >> could be dragging a bit, new car, all tightly adjusted. >> >> I use 87 octane for gas. I'll not change the oil until the car >> reaches 5000 miles as per the Honda recommendations. When I do >> change, I'll take it to the dealer. They offer a $14.95 oil change. >> What's in it for them, I guess, is their assurance that the car is >> being maintained with Honda parts, thus overall I'm less likely to >> need to take advantage of the warranty. >> >> Phisherman wrote: >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:48:50 GMT, gbsmith <gbsmith@kazaa.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 >>>> MPG, city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into >>>> neutral at red lights, and I swear I have been driving >>>> feather-light on the accelerator. >>>> >>>> What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it. >>> >>> >>> Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital >>> friction of newly machined parts. Brakes dragging, improper tire >>> inflation, bad gas, etc, etc. I recommend Casterol oil, but >>> whatever you initially use keep using that same brand. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On 11/24/2003 8:11 PM L Alpert spake these words of knowledge:
> Chris wrote: >> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports >> road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is >> always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 >> miles the engine performs much more efficiently. >> Fear not! >> -chris > > But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K > mi....... Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- I tried to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On 11/24/2003 8:11 PM L Alpert spake these words of knowledge:
> Chris wrote: >> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports >> road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is >> always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 >> miles the engine performs much more efficiently. >> Fear not! >> -chris > > But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K > mi....... Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- I tried to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On 11/24/2003 8:11 PM L Alpert spake these words of knowledge:
> Chris wrote: >> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports >> road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is >> always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 >> miles the engine performs much more efficiently. >> Fear not! >> -chris > > But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K > mi....... Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- I tried to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On 11/24/2003 8:11 PM L Alpert spake these words of knowledge:
> Chris wrote: >> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports >> road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is >> always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 >> miles the engine performs much more efficiently. >> Fear not! >> -chris > > But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K > mi....... Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- I tried to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:41:53 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 11/24/2003 8:11 PM L Alpert spake these words of knowledge: > > >> Chris wrote: >>> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports >>> road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is >>> always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 >>> miles the engine performs much more efficiently. >>> Fear not! >>> -chris >> >> But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K >> mi....... > >Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in >my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. > For what it's worth, I traveled a 500 mile mix of freeway and state highways in July in my '03 EX-L 4 cyl and got about 34 mpg. Highest single tank was just over 35 mpg; the lowest was about 32. I assume that is variation in driving and how full the tank is after refueling. The car had about 2,000 miles on it at the time. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:41:53 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 11/24/2003 8:11 PM L Alpert spake these words of knowledge: > > >> Chris wrote: >>> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports >>> road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is >>> always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 >>> miles the engine performs much more efficiently. >>> Fear not! >>> -chris >> >> But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K >> mi....... > >Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in >my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. > For what it's worth, I traveled a 500 mile mix of freeway and state highways in July in my '03 EX-L 4 cyl and got about 34 mpg. Highest single tank was just over 35 mpg; the lowest was about 32. I assume that is variation in driving and how full the tank is after refueling. The car had about 2,000 miles on it at the time. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:41:53 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 11/24/2003 8:11 PM L Alpert spake these words of knowledge: > > >> Chris wrote: >>> Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports >>> road tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is >>> always less when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 >>> miles the engine performs much more efficiently. >>> Fear not! >>> -chris >> >> But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K >> mi....... > >Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in >my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. > For what it's worth, I traveled a 500 mile mix of freeway and state highways in July in my '03 EX-L 4 cyl and got about 34 mpg. Highest single tank was just over 35 mpg; the lowest was about 32. I assume that is variation in driving and how full the tank is after refueling. The car had about 2,000 miles on it at the time. |
Re: Still only 22.5 MPG!
Well, I certainly learned a lot. I never even knew that the
manufacturers put a special oil in new cars. That certainly was news to me. I'll relax a bit, confident that I'm still driving one of the best. TL wrote: >>>But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K >>>mi....... >> >>Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in >>my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end. >> > > > For what it's worth, I traveled a 500 mile mix of freeway and state > highways in July in my '03 EX-L 4 cyl and got about 34 mpg. Highest > single tank was just over 35 mpg; the lowest was about 32. I assume > that is variation in driving and how full the tank is after refueling. > The car had about 2,000 miles on it at the time. > > |
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