Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
you any kind of warning?

I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
not Honda "service."

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:

> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
> on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
> you any kind of warning?
>
> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
> not Honda "service."

Why are you taking an old car to a dealer for service? Find a reputable
independent mechanic who specializes in import cars. Labor costs will be
lower.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:

> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
> on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
> you any kind of warning?
>
> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
> not Honda "service."

Why are you taking an old car to a dealer for service? Find a reputable
independent mechanic who specializes in import cars. Labor costs will be
lower.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:

> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
> on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
> you any kind of warning?
>
> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
> not Honda "service."

Why are you taking an old car to a dealer for service? Find a reputable
independent mechanic who specializes in import cars. Labor costs will be
lower.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
> on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
> you any kind of warning?
>
> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
> not Honda "service."

-----------------------------------

HONDA dealerships are in business to make LOTS of (service department)
money for the owner.

#1 symptom for tight valves is stalling during the warm-up period, and
poor restart if you shut it off during that period. Bad fuel mileage too.

You need a mechanic who will do what's needed, and you can do the rest.

NOTE to CR-V owners: If your Gen 1 CR-V ever stalls during the warm-up
cycle, don't drive it hard / far before adjusting the valves LOOSE. You
will burn a valve.

'Curly'

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
> on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
> you any kind of warning?
>
> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
> not Honda "service."

-----------------------------------

HONDA dealerships are in business to make LOTS of (service department)
money for the owner.

#1 symptom for tight valves is stalling during the warm-up period, and
poor restart if you shut it off during that period. Bad fuel mileage too.

You need a mechanic who will do what's needed, and you can do the rest.

NOTE to CR-V owners: If your Gen 1 CR-V ever stalls during the warm-up
cycle, don't drive it hard / far before adjusting the valves LOOSE. You
will burn a valve.

'Curly'

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
> on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
> you any kind of warning?
>
> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
> not Honda "service."

-----------------------------------

HONDA dealerships are in business to make LOTS of (service department)
money for the owner.

#1 symptom for tight valves is stalling during the warm-up period, and
poor restart if you shut it off during that period. Bad fuel mileage too.

You need a mechanic who will do what's needed, and you can do the rest.

NOTE to CR-V owners: If your Gen 1 CR-V ever stalls during the warm-up
cycle, don't drive it hard / far before adjusting the valves LOOSE. You
will burn a valve.

'Curly'

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

High Tech Misfit wrote:
> mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
>
>
>> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
>>pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
>>on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
>>costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
>>included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
>>can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
>>you any kind of warning?
>>
>> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
>>not Honda "service."
>
>
> Why are you taking an old car to a dealer for service? Find a reputable
> independent mechanic who specializes in import cars. Labor costs will be
> lower.


I've been looking for one for years. Haven't found one yet.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

High Tech Misfit wrote:
> mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
>
>
>> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
>>pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
>>on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
>>costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
>>included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
>>can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
>>you any kind of warning?
>>
>> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
>>not Honda "service."
>
>
> Why are you taking an old car to a dealer for service? Find a reputable
> independent mechanic who specializes in import cars. Labor costs will be
> lower.


I've been looking for one for years. Haven't found one yet.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

High Tech Misfit wrote:
> mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
>
>
>> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
>>pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing in
>>on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
>>costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
>>included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
>>can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
>>you any kind of warning?
>>
>> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
>>not Honda "service."
>
>
> Why are you taking an old car to a dealer for service? Find a reputable
> independent mechanic who specializes in import cars. Labor costs will be
> lower.


I've been looking for one for years. Haven't found one yet.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

motsco_ wrote:

> mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
>
>> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
>> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing
>> in on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
>> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
>> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
>> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
>> you any kind of warning?
>>
>> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
>> not Honda "service."
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> HONDA dealerships are in business to make LOTS of (service department)
> money for the owner.
>
> #1 symptom for tight valves is stalling during the warm-up period, and
> poor restart if you shut it off during that period. Bad fuel mileage too.
>
> You need a mechanic who will do what's needed, and you can do the rest.
>
> NOTE to CR-V owners: If your Gen 1 CR-V ever stalls during the warm-up
> cycle, don't drive it hard / far before adjusting the valves LOOSE. You
> will burn a valve.
>
> 'Curly'


Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

motsco_ wrote:

> mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
>
>> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
>> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing
>> in on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
>> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
>> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
>> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
>> you any kind of warning?
>>
>> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
>> not Honda "service."
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> HONDA dealerships are in business to make LOTS of (service department)
> money for the owner.
>
> #1 symptom for tight valves is stalling during the warm-up period, and
> poor restart if you shut it off during that period. Bad fuel mileage too.
>
> You need a mechanic who will do what's needed, and you can do the rest.
>
> NOTE to CR-V owners: If your Gen 1 CR-V ever stalls during the warm-up
> cycle, don't drive it hard / far before adjusting the valves LOOSE. You
> will burn a valve.
>
> 'Curly'


Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

Re: Symptoms of Valve Clearance Problems?
 

motsco_ wrote:

> mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
>
>> I got the price for major service for the '95 EX, minus the water
>> pump and timing belt, and I'm starting to see why Hyundai is closing
>> in on Honda. $410 to $547 for "checking" a lot of things, with parts
>> costing extra. They didn't even make it clear that a tuneup was
>> included! I can replace the cap and plugs and wires, and *in theory* I
>> can adjust the valves, but I'd really rather not. Do tight valves give
>> you any kind of warning?
>>
>> I'm not cheap, BTW. Money is tight. I can afford Honda parts, just
>> not Honda "service."
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> HONDA dealerships are in business to make LOTS of (service department)
> money for the owner.
>
> #1 symptom for tight valves is stalling during the warm-up period, and
> poor restart if you shut it off during that period. Bad fuel mileage too.
>
> You need a mechanic who will do what's needed, and you can do the rest.
>
> NOTE to CR-V owners: If your Gen 1 CR-V ever stalls during the warm-up
> cycle, don't drive it hard / far before adjusting the valves LOOSE. You
> will burn a valve.
>
> 'Curly'


Thanks, that's what I was looking for.