GTcarz - Automotive forums for cars & trucks.

GTcarz - Automotive forums for cars & trucks. (https://www.gtcarz.com/)
-   Honda Mailing List (https://www.gtcarz.com/honda-mailing-list-327/)
-   -   Throttle Body Coolant Bypass? (https://www.gtcarz.com/honda-mailing-list-327/throttle-body-coolant-bypass-294898/)

bug67ph@gmail.com 11-01-2006 02:43 PM

Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade in
summer!).

Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?

Or is this totally wrong?


Eric 11-01-2006 06:27 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade in
> summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?


Bypassing the EACV will likely cause the engine to not run correctly either
during warm up, or more probable, after warm up.

Eric

Eric 11-01-2006 06:27 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade in
> summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?


Bypassing the EACV will likely cause the engine to not run correctly either
during warm up, or more probable, after warm up.

Eric

Eric 11-01-2006 06:27 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade in
> summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?


Bypassing the EACV will likely cause the engine to not run correctly either
during warm up, or more probable, after warm up.

Eric

Eric 11-01-2006 06:27 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade in
> summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?


Bypassing the EACV will likely cause the engine to not run correctly either
during warm up, or more probable, after warm up.

Eric

TeGGeR® 11-01-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in
news:1162410230.151558.12850@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade
> in summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?
>




It's not entirely right.

The bypass is a tiny amount of fluid. A VERY tiny amount. The purpose of
it is to ensure the throttle body, idle air control valve, idle screw
aperture and other items don't ice up in operation. Icing can happen at
temperatures *well* above freezing due to the "venturi effect" (Google
for it).

Any additional load the bypass imposes on the engine or cooling system
is so small as to be essentially immeasurable. In addition, some
emissions controls require that intake air be at least 176F, which is
not achievable unless coolant is passing though the throttle body.

Leave it alone.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 11-01-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in
news:1162410230.151558.12850@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade
> in summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?
>




It's not entirely right.

The bypass is a tiny amount of fluid. A VERY tiny amount. The purpose of
it is to ensure the throttle body, idle air control valve, idle screw
aperture and other items don't ice up in operation. Icing can happen at
temperatures *well* above freezing due to the "venturi effect" (Google
for it).

Any additional load the bypass imposes on the engine or cooling system
is so small as to be essentially immeasurable. In addition, some
emissions controls require that intake air be at least 176F, which is
not achievable unless coolant is passing though the throttle body.

Leave it alone.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 11-01-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in
news:1162410230.151558.12850@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade
> in summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?
>




It's not entirely right.

The bypass is a tiny amount of fluid. A VERY tiny amount. The purpose of
it is to ensure the throttle body, idle air control valve, idle screw
aperture and other items don't ice up in operation. Icing can happen at
temperatures *well* above freezing due to the "venturi effect" (Google
for it).

Any additional load the bypass imposes on the engine or cooling system
is so small as to be essentially immeasurable. In addition, some
emissions controls require that intake air be at least 176F, which is
not achievable unless coolant is passing though the throttle body.

Leave it alone.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 11-01-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in
news:1162410230.151558.12850@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> I live in a hot climate, where it never snows, it's always humid and
> the coldest it gets is around 84 degrees Fahrenheit (93 in the shade
> in summer!).
>
> Even if a throttle body coolant bypass doesn't gain any HP (and I hear
> from Mista Bone it doesn't), wouldn't it be "kinder" to the cooling
> system to not have to go through the throttle body/EACV?
>
> Or is this totally wrong?
>




It's not entirely right.

The bypass is a tiny amount of fluid. A VERY tiny amount. The purpose of
it is to ensure the throttle body, idle air control valve, idle screw
aperture and other items don't ice up in operation. Icing can happen at
temperatures *well* above freezing due to the "venturi effect" (Google
for it).

Any additional load the bypass imposes on the engine or cooling system
is so small as to be essentially immeasurable. In addition, some
emissions controls require that intake air be at least 176F, which is
not achievable unless coolant is passing though the throttle body.

Leave it alone.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

bug67ph@gmail.com 11-02-2006 12:04 AM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 

Thanks. I was really not planning on doing it.

However, I saw that on newer models with roughly the same engine (same
engine block, but with VTEC), Honda has done this exact bypass! But I
would think that they had reprogrammed ECU to handle this, right? If I
did it without the ECU's "consent" so to speak, fuel consumption would
go up, right?


bug67ph@gmail.com 11-02-2006 12:04 AM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 

Thanks. I was really not planning on doing it.

However, I saw that on newer models with roughly the same engine (same
engine block, but with VTEC), Honda has done this exact bypass! But I
would think that they had reprogrammed ECU to handle this, right? If I
did it without the ECU's "consent" so to speak, fuel consumption would
go up, right?


bug67ph@gmail.com 11-02-2006 12:04 AM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 

Thanks. I was really not planning on doing it.

However, I saw that on newer models with roughly the same engine (same
engine block, but with VTEC), Honda has done this exact bypass! But I
would think that they had reprogrammed ECU to handle this, right? If I
did it without the ECU's "consent" so to speak, fuel consumption would
go up, right?


bug67ph@gmail.com 11-02-2006 12:04 AM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 

Thanks. I was really not planning on doing it.

However, I saw that on newer models with roughly the same engine (same
engine block, but with VTEC), Honda has done this exact bypass! But I
would think that they had reprogrammed ECU to handle this, right? If I
did it without the ECU's "consent" so to speak, fuel consumption would
go up, right?


TeGGeR® 11-02-2006 07:05 AM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in news:1162443893.158896.214150
@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

>
> Thanks. I was really not planning on doing it.
>
> However, I saw that on newer models with roughly the same engine (same
> engine block, but with VTEC), Honda has done this exact bypass! But I
> would think that they had reprogrammed ECU to handle this, right? If I
> did it without the ECU's "consent" so to speak, fuel consumption would
> go up, right?
>
>



Probably.

Some models carry their coonlant internally instead of through an external
hose, so you wouldn't see the bypass route.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 11-02-2006 07:05 AM

Re: Throttle Body Coolant Bypass?
 
bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in news:1162443893.158896.214150
@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

>
> Thanks. I was really not planning on doing it.
>
> However, I saw that on newer models with roughly the same engine (same
> engine block, but with VTEC), Honda has done this exact bypass! But I
> would think that they had reprogrammed ECU to handle this, right? If I
> did it without the ECU's "consent" so to speak, fuel consumption would
> go up, right?
>
>



Probably.

Some models carry their coonlant internally instead of through an external
hose, so you wouldn't see the bypass route.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:33 AM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Page generated in 0.04760 seconds with 5 queries