Time to do the Brakes?
 

Hi All:

I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
rotors.

I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.

Thanks for your help.

Peter H

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in news:1166668031.382939.177310
@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>


If you hear a "grating" noise, you're wrecking your rotors as I type. But
that's not so bad; they're only $70 each for new OEM.

Everybody's "too busy" to fix car problems, which is fine by me. That's how
garages make most of their money, from people "too busy" to get things
looked at before they get really expensive.

And your brakes will work just fine for quite a long while. But by the time
you find yourself not "too busy" to get them repaired, you may find your
repair bill has grown by at least $200. Pure gravy for the garage!

Merry Christmas!


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in news:1166668031.382939.177310
@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>


If you hear a "grating" noise, you're wrecking your rotors as I type. But
that's not so bad; they're only $70 each for new OEM.

Everybody's "too busy" to fix car problems, which is fine by me. That's how
garages make most of their money, from people "too busy" to get things
looked at before they get really expensive.

And your brakes will work just fine for quite a long while. But by the time
you find yourself not "too busy" to get them repaired, you may find your
repair bill has grown by at least $200. Pure gravy for the garage!

Merry Christmas!


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in news:1166668031.382939.177310
@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>


If you hear a "grating" noise, you're wrecking your rotors as I type. But
that's not so bad; they're only $70 each for new OEM.

Everybody's "too busy" to fix car problems, which is fine by me. That's how
garages make most of their money, from people "too busy" to get things
looked at before they get really expensive.

And your brakes will work just fine for quite a long while. But by the time
you find yourself not "too busy" to get them repaired, you may find your
repair bill has grown by at least $200. Pure gravy for the garage!

Merry Christmas!


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in news:1166668031.382939.177310
@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>


If you hear a "grating" noise, you're wrecking your rotors as I type. But
that's not so bad; they're only $70 each for new OEM.

Everybody's "too busy" to fix car problems, which is fine by me. That's how
garages make most of their money, from people "too busy" to get things
looked at before they get really expensive.

And your brakes will work just fine for quite a long while. But by the time
you find yourself not "too busy" to get them repaired, you may find your
repair bill has grown by at least $200. Pure gravy for the garage!

Merry Christmas!


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Peter H
>

No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
Procrastination is an expensive hobby.

Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.

Mike

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Peter H
>

No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
Procrastination is an expensive hobby.

Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.

Mike

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Peter H
>

No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
Procrastination is an expensive hobby.

Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.

Mike

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

"Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi All:
>
> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
> rotors.
>
> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Peter H
>

No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
Procrastination is an expensive hobby.

Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.

Mike

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
>> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
>> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
>> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
>> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
>> rotors.
>>
>> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
>> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
>> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
>> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
>> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Peter H
>>
>
> No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
> of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
> got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
> Procrastination is an expensive hobby.
>
> Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
> you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
> may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
> work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
> Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
> plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
> happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.
>
> Mike
>
>
there's also a tell-tale noise maker on the pads - it starts scraping
before the pads get to metal. pads still need to be replaced
immediately, but hopefully the rotors aren't toast.

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
>> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
>> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
>> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
>> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
>> rotors.
>>
>> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
>> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
>> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
>> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
>> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Peter H
>>
>
> No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
> of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
> got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
> Procrastination is an expensive hobby.
>
> Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
> you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
> may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
> work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
> Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
> plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
> happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.
>
> Mike
>
>
there's also a tell-tale noise maker on the pads - it starts scraping
before the pads get to metal. pads still need to be replaced
immediately, but hopefully the rotors aren't toast.

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
>> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
>> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
>> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
>> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
>> rotors.
>>
>> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
>> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
>> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
>> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
>> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Peter H
>>
>
> No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
> of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
> got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
> Procrastination is an expensive hobby.
>
> Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
> you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
> may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
> work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
> Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
> plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
> happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.
>
> Mike
>
>
there's also a tell-tale noise maker on the pads - it starts scraping
before the pads get to metal. pads still need to be replaced
immediately, but hopefully the rotors aren't toast.

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
>> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
>> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
>> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
>> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
>> rotors.
>>
>> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
>> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
>> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
>> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
>> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Peter H
>>
>
> No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel backing
> of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks it probably
> got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
> Procrastination is an expensive hobby.
>
> Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do if
> you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or they
> may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they won't
> work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels mostly.
> Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the backing
> plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of things can
> happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are good.
>
> Mike
>
>
there's also a tell-tale noise maker on the pads - it starts scraping
before the pads get to metal. pads still need to be replaced
immediately, but hopefully the rotors aren't toast.

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

The scraper on the pads only work if that pad is wearing as fast or more
than the other pad. In my experience it is the other pad most of the time.
So relying on the scraper is useless. Rotate the tires every 5k-10k and
inspect the linings each time they are rotated.


"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:CK2dndWh66KTExfYnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
>>> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
>>> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
>>> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
>>> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
>>> rotors.
>>>
>>> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
>>> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
>>> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
>>> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
>>> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Peter H
>>>
>>
>> No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel
>> backing of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks
>> it probably got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
>> Procrastination is an expensive hobby.
>>
>> Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do
>> if you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or
>> they may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they
>> won't work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels
>> mostly. Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the
>> backing plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of
>> things can happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are
>> good.
>>
>> Mike
> there's also a tell-tale noise maker on the pads - it starts scraping
> before the pads get to metal. pads still need to be replaced
> immediately, but hopefully the rotors aren't toast.

Re: Time to do the Brakes?
 

The scraper on the pads only work if that pad is wearing as fast or more
than the other pad. In my experience it is the other pad most of the time.
So relying on the scraper is useless. Rotate the tires every 5k-10k and
inspect the linings each time they are rotated.


"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:CK2dndWh66KTExfYnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Peter H" <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166668031.382939.177310@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> I've got a 2000 civic which I bought, used 3 years ago. From what the
>>> mechanics have told me I've still got the original brakes. I've had
>>> them checked a few times and about 6 months ago I was told that there
>>> was still 25% left on the brakes, but in the last couple of weeks I've
>>> begun hearing a grating noise which seems to be coming from the front
>>> rotors.
>>>
>>> I'm assuming that it's now time to do the brakes, but I'm really busy
>>> with work and the holiday season. I'm wondering whether I've now
>>> reached the warning stage or have gone past that and am destroying the
>>> rotors? If still at the warning stage how long do I have until I do
>>> damage to the brakes. They still seem to be working fine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Peter H
>>>
>>
>> No mistaking that one - the harsh grinding sound is from the steel
>> backing of the pads chewing on a rotor. If it's been going on for weeks
>> it probably got both disks, and neither will be suitable for resurfacing.
>> Procrastination is an expensive hobby.
>>
>> Don't put this off any longer. There is no telling what your car will do
>> if you have to use the brakes hard. The front wheels may lock up early or
>> they may just not do their job. The only thing you can be sure of is they
>> won't work right. By now you are probably braking on the rear wheels
>> mostly. Worse, if you allow this to go on much longer a pad (well, the
>> backing plate) can slip out of the caliper. From there any number of
>> things can happen - like that wheel locking up - and none of them are
>> good.
>>
>> Mike
> there's also a tell-tale noise maker on the pads - it starts scraping
> before the pads get to metal. pads still need to be replaced
> immediately, but hopefully the rotors aren't toast.