Re: timing belt
 

If by saying the timing belt is completely broken, cam shaft doesn't turn with
the crankshaft then yes you have major damage. All the 87 accords have
interference engines. With luck you may not have broken a piston if it only
turned a few degrees after breaking the belt but it most likely has bent valves
at best. When you turn it over with the crank don't force it, you will just
cause more damage. The safest thing to due is to remove the cam before trying
to turn it over. If it turns over easily with the plugs removed tap on each
valve and see if they bind if so it is at least head rebuild time. Let us know.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:35:16 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

>Computerized equipment to check for valvetrain damage?
>
>"Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:tomwilson-1901041014230001@pm1-broad-108.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> In article <88eeeee0.0401171340.2c5cb63a@posting.google.com >,
>> rkd1157@yahoo.com (Robert Davis) wrote:
>>
>> > My brother just bought a 1987 Honda Accord with the timing belt shot.
>> > What are the chances the valvetrain was ruined and how hard is this
>> > thing to change?
>>
>> We could only guess. The only way to be sure is for you or a mechanic to
>> place a new timing belt on it and start it up. If a mechanic does it, ask
>> him or her to hook it up to the computerized testing equipment that he has
>> and determine whether any damage was or was not done to the valvetrain. If
>> you do it, start it up and let it idle--if it sounds ok--take it for a
>> short ride around the block. If it passes that test--go for a longer ride
>> on a road that will allow you to get it up to about 50 or 60 miles per
>> hour. If it passes that test--it means that no damage was done to the
>> valvetrain. You should advise your brother that in the future--he should
>> NOT buy a vehicle that has a timing belt that is "shot".
>

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Re: timing belt
 

If by saying the timing belt is completely broken, cam shaft doesn't turn with
the crankshaft then yes you have major damage. All the 87 accords have
interference engines. With luck you may not have broken a piston if it only
turned a few degrees after breaking the belt but it most likely has bent valves
at best. When you turn it over with the crank don't force it, you will just
cause more damage. The safest thing to due is to remove the cam before trying
to turn it over. If it turns over easily with the plugs removed tap on each
valve and see if they bind if so it is at least head rebuild time. Let us know.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:35:16 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

>Computerized equipment to check for valvetrain damage?
>
>"Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:tomwilson-1901041014230001@pm1-broad-108.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> In article <88eeeee0.0401171340.2c5cb63a@posting.google.com >,
>> rkd1157@yahoo.com (Robert Davis) wrote:
>>
>> > My brother just bought a 1987 Honda Accord with the timing belt shot.
>> > What are the chances the valvetrain was ruined and how hard is this
>> > thing to change?
>>
>> We could only guess. The only way to be sure is for you or a mechanic to
>> place a new timing belt on it and start it up. If a mechanic does it, ask
>> him or her to hook it up to the computerized testing equipment that he has
>> and determine whether any damage was or was not done to the valvetrain. If
>> you do it, start it up and let it idle--if it sounds ok--take it for a
>> short ride around the block. If it passes that test--go for a longer ride
>> on a road that will allow you to get it up to about 50 or 60 miles per
>> hour. If it passes that test--it means that no damage was done to the
>> valvetrain. You should advise your brother that in the future--he should
>> NOT buy a vehicle that has a timing belt that is "shot".
>

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Re: timing belt
 

If by saying the timing belt is completely broken, cam shaft doesn't turn with
the crankshaft then yes you have major damage. All the 87 accords have
interference engines. With luck you may not have broken a piston if it only
turned a few degrees after breaking the belt but it most likely has bent valves
at best. When you turn it over with the crank don't force it, you will just
cause more damage. The safest thing to due is to remove the cam before trying
to turn it over. If it turns over easily with the plugs removed tap on each
valve and see if they bind if so it is at least head rebuild time. Let us know.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:35:16 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

>Computerized equipment to check for valvetrain damage?
>
>"Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:tomwilson-1901041014230001@pm1-broad-108.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> In article <88eeeee0.0401171340.2c5cb63a@posting.google.com >,
>> rkd1157@yahoo.com (Robert Davis) wrote:
>>
>> > My brother just bought a 1987 Honda Accord with the timing belt shot.
>> > What are the chances the valvetrain was ruined and how hard is this
>> > thing to change?
>>
>> We could only guess. The only way to be sure is for you or a mechanic to
>> place a new timing belt on it and start it up. If a mechanic does it, ask
>> him or her to hook it up to the computerized testing equipment that he has
>> and determine whether any damage was or was not done to the valvetrain. If
>> you do it, start it up and let it idle--if it sounds ok--take it for a
>> short ride around the block. If it passes that test--go for a longer ride
>> on a road that will allow you to get it up to about 50 or 60 miles per
>> hour. If it passes that test--it means that no damage was done to the
>> valvetrain. You should advise your brother that in the future--he should
>> NOT buy a vehicle that has a timing belt that is "shot".
>

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Re: timing belt
 

KG wrote:
>
> If by saying the timing belt is completely broken, cam shaft doesn't turn
> with the crankshaft then yes you have major damage. All the 87 accords
> have interference engines. With luck you may not have broken a piston if
> it only turned a few degrees after breaking the belt but it most likely
> has bent valves at best. When you turn it over with the crank don't
> force it, you will just cause more damage. The safest thing to due is to
> remove the cam before trying to turn it over. If it turns over easily
> with the plugs removed tap on each valve 0and see if they bind if so it
> is at least head rebuild time. Let us know.

I believe that it would be easier to just check the valve clearances. Any
valves that are bent will have excessive clearance as they will not seat
correctly.

Eric

Re: timing belt
 

KG wrote:
>
> If by saying the timing belt is completely broken, cam shaft doesn't turn
> with the crankshaft then yes you have major damage. All the 87 accords
> have interference engines. With luck you may not have broken a piston if
> it only turned a few degrees after breaking the belt but it most likely
> has bent valves at best. When you turn it over with the crank don't
> force it, you will just cause more damage. The safest thing to due is to
> remove the cam before trying to turn it over. If it turns over easily
> with the plugs removed tap on each valve 0and see if they bind if so it
> is at least head rebuild time. Let us know.

I believe that it would be easier to just check the valve clearances. Any
valves that are bent will have excessive clearance as they will not seat
correctly.

Eric

Re: timing belt
 

KG wrote:
>
> If by saying the timing belt is completely broken, cam shaft doesn't turn
> with the crankshaft then yes you have major damage. All the 87 accords
> have interference engines. With luck you may not have broken a piston if
> it only turned a few degrees after breaking the belt but it most likely
> has bent valves at best. When you turn it over with the crank don't
> force it, you will just cause more damage. The safest thing to due is to
> remove the cam before trying to turn it over. If it turns over easily
> with the plugs removed tap on each valve 0and see if they bind if so it
> is at least head rebuild time. Let us know.

I believe that it would be easier to just check the valve clearances. Any
valves that are bent will have excessive clearance as they will not seat
correctly.

Eric

Re: timing belt
 

KG wrote:
>
> If by saying the timing belt is completely broken, cam shaft doesn't turn
> with the crankshaft then yes you have major damage. All the 87 accords
> have interference engines. With luck you may not have broken a piston if
> it only turned a few degrees after breaking the belt but it most likely
> has bent valves at best. When you turn it over with the crank don't
> force it, you will just cause more damage. The safest thing to due is to
> remove the cam before trying to turn it over. If it turns over easily
> with the plugs removed tap on each valve 0and see if they bind if so it
> is at least head rebuild time. Let us know.

I believe that it would be easier to just check the valve clearances. Any
valves that are bent will have excessive clearance as they will not seat
correctly.

Eric