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boner 04-07-2005 05:28 AM

Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
Likely, I got a 1996 V6 accord, and the timing belt replaced after 150k km
or 100k miles was like new. The mechanic said I could have left it in for
up to 250k km or 200k miles? I saw the belt.... The honda belt he put in
now makes my RPM needle jump around alot? is it ed? but my car drives
perfectly??

disallow 04-07-2005 06:36 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
Where are you located? Is it considered a 'severe
driving area' as per the manual? If so, the interval
for t-belt change is 100000kms. Otherwise its
160000kms. And yes, its interference, so best not
to play with fire....

I don't see what the Tachometer and the T-belt have
to do with each other... maybe the CKP sensor??
One of the Honda techies on the site may be able
to enlighten you on that one...

t


disallow 04-07-2005 06:36 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
Where are you located? Is it considered a 'severe
driving area' as per the manual? If so, the interval
for t-belt change is 100000kms. Otherwise its
160000kms. And yes, its interference, so best not
to play with fire....

I don't see what the Tachometer and the T-belt have
to do with each other... maybe the CKP sensor??
One of the Honda techies on the site may be able
to enlighten you on that one...

t


M.C. Tee 04-07-2005 11:03 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
while yes, it may last till 250k, do you really want to take that chance and
have it let go when your driving? its cheap insurance, do it at the
reccomended intervals



"boner" <supafocka@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns963137F7FAC82boner@216.196.97.142...
> Likely, I got a 1996 V6 accord, and the timing belt replaced after 150k km
> or 100k miles was like new. The mechanic said I could have left it in for
> up to 250k km or 200k miles? I saw the belt.... The honda belt he put in
> now makes my RPM needle jump around alot? is it ed? but my car drives
> perfectly??




M.C. Tee 04-07-2005 11:03 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
while yes, it may last till 250k, do you really want to take that chance and
have it let go when your driving? its cheap insurance, do it at the
reccomended intervals



"boner" <supafocka@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns963137F7FAC82boner@216.196.97.142...
> Likely, I got a 1996 V6 accord, and the timing belt replaced after 150k km
> or 100k miles was like new. The mechanic said I could have left it in for
> up to 250k km or 200k miles? I saw the belt.... The honda belt he put in
> now makes my RPM needle jump around alot? is it ed? but my car drives
> perfectly??




Woody 04-08-2005 08:28 AM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
You need a new mechanic. No one can look at the belt and tell if it is good
or bad or how long it will last. The internal fibers in the belt could be
breaking down and there is no way to tell until it starts stretching out. By
then it is too late as it will jump teeth. If the rpm is jumping around he
may have jumped some teeth when installing the belt. If it is only the gauge
check all the ground connections and have the battery/charging system
checked.


"boner" <supafocka@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns963137F7FAC82boner@216.196.97.142...
> Likely, I got a 1996 V6 accord, and the timing belt replaced after 150k km
> or 100k miles was like new. The mechanic said I could have left it in for
> up to 250k km or 200k miles? I saw the belt.... The honda belt he put in
> now makes my RPM needle jump around alot? is it ed? but my car drives
> perfectly??




Woody 04-08-2005 08:28 AM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
You need a new mechanic. No one can look at the belt and tell if it is good
or bad or how long it will last. The internal fibers in the belt could be
breaking down and there is no way to tell until it starts stretching out. By
then it is too late as it will jump teeth. If the rpm is jumping around he
may have jumped some teeth when installing the belt. If it is only the gauge
check all the ground connections and have the battery/charging system
checked.


"boner" <supafocka@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns963137F7FAC82boner@216.196.97.142...
> Likely, I got a 1996 V6 accord, and the timing belt replaced after 150k km
> or 100k miles was like new. The mechanic said I could have left it in for
> up to 250k km or 200k miles? I saw the belt.... The honda belt he put in
> now makes my RPM needle jump around alot? is it ed? but my car drives
> perfectly??




Colin 04-08-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
disallow wrote:

> Where are you located? Is it considered a 'severe
> driving area' as per the manual? If so, the interval
> for t-belt change is 100000kms. Otherwise its
> 160000kms. And yes, its interference, so best not
> to play with fire....
>
> I don't see what the Tachometer and the T-belt have
> to do with each other... maybe the CKP sensor??
> One of the Honda techies on the site may be able
> to enlighten you on that one...
>
> t

I'm not sure about the 96s, but my 92 has a sensor in the distributor that
will occasionally come a bit loose, resulting in the tach looking like a VU
meter from an old stereo. tighten the connections, and it's all good :)

Colin 04-08-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
disallow wrote:

> Where are you located? Is it considered a 'severe
> driving area' as per the manual? If so, the interval
> for t-belt change is 100000kms. Otherwise its
> 160000kms. And yes, its interference, so best not
> to play with fire....
>
> I don't see what the Tachometer and the T-belt have
> to do with each other... maybe the CKP sensor??
> One of the Honda techies on the site may be able
> to enlighten you on that one...
>
> t

I'm not sure about the 96s, but my 92 has a sensor in the distributor that
will occasionally come a bit loose, resulting in the tach looking like a VU
meter from an old stereo. tighten the connections, and it's all good :)

TeGGer® 04-08-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
boner <supafocka@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:Xns963137F7FAC82boner@216.196.97.142:

> Likely, I got a 1996 V6 accord, and the timing belt replaced after
> 150k km or 100k miles was like new.



To the naked eye, sure. But it's the internal fibers that break down, which
you CAN'T see.

Knit your fingers together so the fingertips of one hand rest on the back
of the other hand. Now slowly pull them apart. That's what happens.

What can also happen as a consequence of the above is that when you shut
down and the engine kicks back a a bit as it stops, the teeth strip off on
the part of the belt that happens to wrap around the crank pulley.


> The mechanic said I could have
> left it in for up to 250k km or 200k miles?



He's probably thinking of "non-interference" engines, which term does NOT
describe Honda engines.

Also, some engines are fairly easy on their belts, not subjecting them to
too many turns during their rotation. Non-interference combined with easy
use means the manufacturer's limits can be stretched. Hondas limits can be
stretched too, but the consequences can be very dire indeed ($$$$$)!


> I saw the belt.... The
> honda belt he put in now makes my RPM needle jump around alot? is it
> ed? but my car drives perfectly??



Check the (blue?) wire at, or inside, the distributor (if you have a
distributor). Bet it's loose/damaged or the connector is corroded.

Nothing to do with the timing belt.



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGer® 04-08-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Timing Belt - 96 Accord Engine Interference Type?
 
boner <supafocka@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:Xns963137F7FAC82boner@216.196.97.142:

> Likely, I got a 1996 V6 accord, and the timing belt replaced after
> 150k km or 100k miles was like new.



To the naked eye, sure. But it's the internal fibers that break down, which
you CAN'T see.

Knit your fingers together so the fingertips of one hand rest on the back
of the other hand. Now slowly pull them apart. That's what happens.

What can also happen as a consequence of the above is that when you shut
down and the engine kicks back a a bit as it stops, the teeth strip off on
the part of the belt that happens to wrap around the crank pulley.


> The mechanic said I could have
> left it in for up to 250k km or 200k miles?



He's probably thinking of "non-interference" engines, which term does NOT
describe Honda engines.

Also, some engines are fairly easy on their belts, not subjecting them to
too many turns during their rotation. Non-interference combined with easy
use means the manufacturer's limits can be stretched. Hondas limits can be
stretched too, but the consequences can be very dire indeed ($$$$$)!


> I saw the belt.... The
> honda belt he put in now makes my RPM needle jump around alot? is it
> ed? but my car drives perfectly??



Check the (blue?) wire at, or inside, the distributor (if you have a
distributor). Bet it's loose/damaged or the connector is corroded.

Nothing to do with the timing belt.



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


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