Re: timing belt replacement
 

General Chaos wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Don't press your luck. It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
>>you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
>>pistons smashing into valves).
>
>
> but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
> honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
> needed to be replaced... i now have a 95 accord with about 167,000 the
> shop said it was time, but i tend to disagree and will probably do the
> same with my newer honda, just let it run as normal...
>
> sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
> often do they truly break?
>

You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
at 80000km on the old Geo Storm, but many of them were failing between
60-80000km. GM had to replace all of those engines free of charge. So
timing belts DO break, some sooner than others. Honda over-engineers
their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
it will last indefinitely.

Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
sure not to let anyone I know buy it.

Cosmin

Re: timing belt replacement
 

General Chaos wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Don't press your luck. It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
>>you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
>>pistons smashing into valves).
>
>
> but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
> honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
> needed to be replaced... i now have a 95 accord with about 167,000 the
> shop said it was time, but i tend to disagree and will probably do the
> same with my newer honda, just let it run as normal...
>
> sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
> often do they truly break?
>

You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
at 80000km on the old Geo Storm, but many of them were failing between
60-80000km. GM had to replace all of those engines free of charge. So
timing belts DO break, some sooner than others. Honda over-engineers
their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
it will last indefinitely.

Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
sure not to let anyone I know buy it.

Cosmin

Re: timing belt replacement
 

"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:

> You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
> for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
> at 80000km on the old Geo Storm, but many of them were failing between
> 60-80000km. GM had to replace all of those engines free of charge. So
> timing belts DO break, some sooner than others. Honda over-engineers
> their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
> it will last indefinitely.

okay... i just go with guy feeling and lots of reading... i've never
seen a case where this timing belt breaks so i'm going to rely on
experience and not replace it...

> Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
> sure not to let anyone I know buy it.

cute, again, i just think it's a quick way for a shop to make money,
nothing more...

Re: timing belt replacement
 

"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:

> You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
> for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
> at 80000km on the old Geo Storm, but many of them were failing between
> 60-80000km. GM had to replace all of those engines free of charge. So
> timing belts DO break, some sooner than others. Honda over-engineers
> their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
> it will last indefinitely.

okay... i just go with guy feeling and lots of reading... i've never
seen a case where this timing belt breaks so i'm going to rely on
experience and not replace it...

> Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
> sure not to let anyone I know buy it.

cute, again, i just think it's a quick way for a shop to make money,
nothing more...

Re: timing belt replacement
 

General Chaos wrote:
> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
>>for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
>>at 80000km on the old Geo Storm, but many of them were failing between
>>60-80000km. GM had to replace all of those engines free of charge. So
>>timing belts DO break, some sooner than others. Honda over-engineers
>>their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
>>it will last indefinitely.
>
>
> okay... i just go with guy feeling and lots of reading... i've never
> seen a case where this timing belt breaks so i'm going to rely on
> experience and not replace it...
>
>
>>Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
>>sure not to let anyone I know buy it.
>
>
> cute, again, i just think it's a quick way for a shop to make money,
> nothing more...

Allright then, I see you're not likely to change your mind, so this
whole thread is pointless.

Cosmin

Re: timing belt replacement
 

General Chaos wrote:
> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
>>for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
>>at 80000km on the old Geo Storm, but many of them were failing between
>>60-80000km. GM had to replace all of those engines free of charge. So
>>timing belts DO break, some sooner than others. Honda over-engineers
>>their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
>>it will last indefinitely.
>
>
> okay... i just go with guy feeling and lots of reading... i've never
> seen a case where this timing belt breaks so i'm going to rely on
> experience and not replace it...
>
>
>>Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
>>sure not to let anyone I know buy it.
>
>
> cute, again, i just think it's a quick way for a shop to make money,
> nothing more...

Allright then, I see you're not likely to change your mind, so this
whole thread is pointless.

Cosmin

Re: timing belt replacement
 

On 8/11/04 11:05 PM, in article a-F07CAF.22053611082004@news.uswest.net,
"General Chaos" <a@b.com> wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>> Don't press your luck. It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
>> you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
>> pistons smashing into valves).
>
> but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
> honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
> needed to be replaced... i now have a 95 accord with about 167,000 the
> shop said it was time, but i tend to disagree and will probably do the
> same with my newer honda, just let it run as normal...
>
> sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
> often do they truly break?
>
> hum...

Its really true. Happened on my VW. I let it go 10000 miles past the
recommended interval. Result was a trashed engine. You could actually hear
the "ping, ping, ping, ping ..." as the pistons smashed into the valves.

Re: timing belt replacement
 

On 8/11/04 11:05 PM, in article a-F07CAF.22053611082004@news.uswest.net,
"General Chaos" <a@b.com> wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>> Don't press your luck. It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
>> you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
>> pistons smashing into valves).
>
> but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
> honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
> needed to be replaced... i now have a 95 accord with about 167,000 the
> shop said it was time, but i tend to disagree and will probably do the
> same with my newer honda, just let it run as normal...
>
> sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
> often do they truly break?
>
> hum...

Its really true. Happened on my VW. I let it go 10000 miles past the
recommended interval. Result was a trashed engine. You could actually hear
the "ping, ping, ping, ping ..." as the pistons smashed into the valves.

Re: timing belt replacement
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:05:36 -0600, General Chaos <a@b.com> wrote:


>but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
>honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
>needed to be replaced... i now have a 95 accord with about 167,000 the
>shop said it was time, but i tend to disagree and will probably do the
>same with my newer honda, just let it run as normal...
>
>sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
>often do they truly break?
>
>hum...

again what climate do you live in? and what kind of driving...that
will be part of the equation...

Spiff

Re: timing belt replacement
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:05:36 -0600, General Chaos <a@b.com> wrote:


>but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
>honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
>needed to be replaced... i now have a 95 accord with about 167,000 the
>shop said it was time, but i tend to disagree and will probably do the
>same with my newer honda, just let it run as normal...
>
>sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
>often do they truly break?
>
>hum...

again what climate do you live in? and what kind of driving...that
will be part of the equation...

Spiff