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Peter H 08-10-2004 05:46 AM

timing belt replacement
 
Well I live in Canada and my 2000 Civic just turned 100,000 Kms. I want this
vehicle to run a lot longer and so thought I'd call into the dealership and
see about having the timing belt changed. To my surprise the young lady
there said that the specs have been changed and I don't need to have the
belt done for another 75,000 Kms or so.

This is the first I've heard of this. Is she correct?

Peter H



disallow 08-10-2004 10:04 AM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
She may have thought you have a 2001 civic, with a timing
chain. In that case, yes the interval changed from 100000km
to 160000km.

Where in Canada are you located? I am in Winnipeg, and
with the more than -20oC here, it puts alot more wear on the timing belt,
I wouldn't go too much over the recommended
interval.

t


disallow 08-10-2004 10:04 AM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
She may have thought you have a 2001 civic, with a timing
chain. In that case, yes the interval changed from 100000km
to 160000km.

Where in Canada are you located? I am in Winnipeg, and
with the more than -20oC here, it puts alot more wear on the timing belt,
I wouldn't go too much over the recommended
interval.

t


Caroline 08-10-2004 11:47 AM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
The site below says your Canadian car's timing belt is due at 84 months or
168,000 km, whichever comes first.

http://www.honda.ca/HondaEng/YouAndY...eCalculator.ht
m

I thought maybe you were thinking of "severe duty" TB replacement intervals. As
poster "disallow" suggested, Canada driving is generally considered "severe
duty."

So does the site above give the "severe duty" specs?

I have a Chilton's manual for American Honda Civics, 1984-1995. I checked the
1992 specs in this manual and at the Canadian site above. The non-severe duty
spec in the Chilton's is 145k km/6 years. At the Canadian site, it gives a spec.
of 96k km, period.

So the Canada site above seems to give the "severe duty" specs, period.

Barring further commentary from others, I'd believe the young lady.

"Peter H" <peterh@notreallyrogers.com> wrote
> Well I live in Canada and my 2000 Civic just turned 100,000 Kms. I want this
> vehicle to run a lot longer and so thought I'd call into the dealership and
> see about having the timing belt changed. To my surprise the young lady
> there said that the specs have been changed and I don't need to have the
> belt done for another 75,000 Kms or so.
>
> This is the first I've heard of this. Is she correct?




Caroline 08-10-2004 11:47 AM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
The site below says your Canadian car's timing belt is due at 84 months or
168,000 km, whichever comes first.

http://www.honda.ca/HondaEng/YouAndY...eCalculator.ht
m

I thought maybe you were thinking of "severe duty" TB replacement intervals. As
poster "disallow" suggested, Canada driving is generally considered "severe
duty."

So does the site above give the "severe duty" specs?

I have a Chilton's manual for American Honda Civics, 1984-1995. I checked the
1992 specs in this manual and at the Canadian site above. The non-severe duty
spec in the Chilton's is 145k km/6 years. At the Canadian site, it gives a spec.
of 96k km, period.

So the Canada site above seems to give the "severe duty" specs, period.

Barring further commentary from others, I'd believe the young lady.

"Peter H" <peterh@notreallyrogers.com> wrote
> Well I live in Canada and my 2000 Civic just turned 100,000 Kms. I want this
> vehicle to run a lot longer and so thought I'd call into the dealership and
> see about having the timing belt changed. To my surprise the young lady
> there said that the specs have been changed and I don't need to have the
> belt done for another 75,000 Kms or so.
>
> This is the first I've heard of this. Is she correct?




Jason 08-10-2004 12:33 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
In article <GP0Sc.3996$AYk1.150@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rog ers.com>,
"Peter H" <peterh@notreallyrogers.com> wrote:

> Well I live in Canada and my 2000 Civic just turned 100,000 Kms. I want this
> vehicle to run a lot longer and so thought I'd call into the dealership and
> see about having the timing belt changed. To my surprise the young lady
> there said that the specs have been changed and I don't need to have the
> belt done for another 75,000 Kms or so.
>
> This is the first I've heard of this. Is she correct?
>
> Peter H


I don't know how to convert 100,000 Kms to miles. However, if you believe
that your timing belt needs to be changed, you could tell them to do it or
hire a local mechanic that you trust to do the work for you. It's my guess
that the local mechanic will charge you less than the Honda dealership.
For example, I change the oil in my Honda every 3000 miles regardless of
what is stated in the owner's manual.

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Jason 08-10-2004 12:33 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
In article <GP0Sc.3996$AYk1.150@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rog ers.com>,
"Peter H" <peterh@notreallyrogers.com> wrote:

> Well I live in Canada and my 2000 Civic just turned 100,000 Kms. I want this
> vehicle to run a lot longer and so thought I'd call into the dealership and
> see about having the timing belt changed. To my surprise the young lady
> there said that the specs have been changed and I don't need to have the
> belt done for another 75,000 Kms or so.
>
> This is the first I've heard of this. Is she correct?
>
> Peter H


I don't know how to convert 100,000 Kms to miles. However, if you believe
that your timing belt needs to be changed, you could tell them to do it or
hire a local mechanic that you trust to do the work for you. It's my guess
that the local mechanic will charge you less than the Honda dealership.
For example, I change the oil in my Honda every 3000 miles regardless of
what is stated in the owner's manual.

--
NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO
We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice.
We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.




F2004: 11 of 12* 08-10-2004 12:39 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:33:19 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>"Peter H" <peterh@notreallyrogers.com> wrote:
>> Well I live in Canada and my 2000 Civic just turned 100,000 Kms. I want this
>> vehicle to run a lot longer and so thought I'd call into the dealership and
>> see about having the timing belt changed. To my surprise the young lady
>> there said that the specs have been changed and I don't need to have the
>> belt done for another 75,000 Kms or so.
>>
>> This is the first I've heard of this. Is she correct?


For a 2000, sounds about right, I think the interval was extended to
100,000miles: 100,000miles = 160,934km.

>I don't know how to convert 100,000 Kms to miles.


Xkm x ~.6km/mile=Ymiles



F2004: 11 of 12* 08-10-2004 12:39 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:33:19 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>"Peter H" <peterh@notreallyrogers.com> wrote:
>> Well I live in Canada and my 2000 Civic just turned 100,000 Kms. I want this
>> vehicle to run a lot longer and so thought I'd call into the dealership and
>> see about having the timing belt changed. To my surprise the young lady
>> there said that the specs have been changed and I don't need to have the
>> belt done for another 75,000 Kms or so.
>>
>> This is the first I've heard of this. Is she correct?


For a 2000, sounds about right, I think the interval was extended to
100,000miles: 100,000miles = 160,934km.

>I don't know how to convert 100,000 Kms to miles.


Xkm x ~.6km/mile=Ymiles



disallow 08-10-2004 03:08 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
Why would a 2000 be different than my 1998? Its the same
engine, the same timing belt, so what the heck?


disallow 08-10-2004 03:08 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
Why would a 2000 be different than my 1998? Its the same
engine, the same timing belt, so what the heck?


Caroline 08-10-2004 04:53 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
Oops. You're right, Disallow. For both the 1998 Civic and the 2000 Civic, the
Canadian site says:
_____
84 mths/168,000 km
Replace Timing Belt & Inspect Water Pump

100,000 km
Replace Timing Belt & Inspect Water Pump if regularly driven in very low temp
(-29 C, -20 F)
_____

So I guess the Peter has a judgment call to make.

The young lady at the dealer, with the rest of the service department, may have
decided their area isn't cold enough to qualify for the 100k km interval. (Or
perhaps they're messed up at the dealer's. It wouldn't be the first time.)

The info I quoted about the 92 Civic's specs at the Canadian site vs. my
American Chilton's manual still check out.

"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote
> Why would a 2000 be different than my 1998? Its the same
> engine, the same timing belt, so what the heck?




Caroline 08-10-2004 04:53 PM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
Oops. You're right, Disallow. For both the 1998 Civic and the 2000 Civic, the
Canadian site says:
_____
84 mths/168,000 km
Replace Timing Belt & Inspect Water Pump

100,000 km
Replace Timing Belt & Inspect Water Pump if regularly driven in very low temp
(-29 C, -20 F)
_____

So I guess the Peter has a judgment call to make.

The young lady at the dealer, with the rest of the service department, may have
decided their area isn't cold enough to qualify for the 100k km interval. (Or
perhaps they're messed up at the dealer's. It wouldn't be the first time.)

The info I quoted about the 92 Civic's specs at the Canadian site vs. my
American Chilton's manual still check out.

"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote
> Why would a 2000 be different than my 1998? Its the same
> engine, the same timing belt, so what the heck?




disallow 08-11-2004 12:19 AM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
thats kinda what I was leaning towards in my original post,
if he is in the frost belt, and honda defines that as
being in an area that has temps of less than -20oC, then
the interval is 100000km.

Better safe than sorry, I say.
t


disallow 08-11-2004 12:19 AM

Re: timing belt replacement
 
thats kinda what I was leaning towards in my original post,
if he is in the frost belt, and honda defines that as
being in an area that has temps of less than -20oC, then
the interval is 100000km.

Better safe than sorry, I say.
t



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