Timing Belt Replacement
03-05-2006, 09:14 AM
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Timing Belt Replacement
I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
Thanks,
Sikanth
change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
Thanks,
Sikanth
03-05-2006, 09:43 AM
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement
sriki07@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
First of all, what model of car are you talking about? Civic, Accord, CR-V?
If you don't change the belt within the specified interval, when the belt
breaks there is a strong possibility of the pistons striking the valves,
causing serious damage requiring thousands of dollars in repairs or entire
engine replacement.
And yes, it is strongly recommended to change the water pump since they do
wear out and much of the labour involved is the same.
If done by a mechanic, $600 is about the average if that includes labour and
replacement of water pump, other belts, seals, etc.
> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
First of all, what model of car are you talking about? Civic, Accord, CR-V?
If you don't change the belt within the specified interval, when the belt
breaks there is a strong possibility of the pistons striking the valves,
causing serious damage requiring thousands of dollars in repairs or entire
engine replacement.
And yes, it is strongly recommended to change the water pump since they do
wear out and much of the labour involved is the same.
If done by a mechanic, $600 is about the average if that includes labour and
replacement of water pump, other belts, seals, etc.
03-05-2006, 09:51 AM
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement
sriki07@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
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An 'interference engine' allows the pistons and valves to share some of
the same space inside the combustion chamber, but at different times in
the 'cycle'. The timing belt keeps everything 'in time'. That's how it
got it's name.
If the timing belt breaks the valves are in the wrong place when the
pistons come back up. Valves are made of steel, not rubber. Bad thing$
happen.
'Curly'
>
> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
--------------------
An 'interference engine' allows the pistons and valves to share some of
the same space inside the combustion chamber, but at different times in
the 'cycle'. The timing belt keeps everything 'in time'. That's how it
got it's name.
If the timing belt breaks the valves are in the wrong place when the
pistons come back up. Valves are made of steel, not rubber. Bad thing$
happen.
'Curly'
03-05-2006, 10:11 AM
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement
And if the water pump locks up, it will destroy the timing belt and also
the engine. If the belt has been exposed to an extreme cold or heat
enviroment, it would more likely fail sooner. I think the normal
replacement of the timing belt is 105,000 miles, or
7 years. Has anyone ever heard of a Honda Timing belt
going bad after 7 years?
the engine. If the belt has been exposed to an extreme cold or heat
enviroment, it would more likely fail sooner. I think the normal
replacement of the timing belt is 105,000 miles, or
7 years. Has anyone ever heard of a Honda Timing belt
going bad after 7 years?
03-05-2006, 01:27 PM
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement
<sriki07@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
>
As the others say, yes, there is a high probability of very serious damage
to the engine if the timing belt fails. They don't always break, but the
teeth strip off a section and that has the same effect. Also as they say,
changing the water pump is a very good thing to do at the same time as the
old one may seize and cause the timing belt to fail. Even if the water pump
just starts leaking you don't want to go through all this again to change
it. In addition, the tensioner should be replaced when the belt is changed
for the same main reason as the pump - if it seizes the timing belt will be
destroyed. Some people like to change the front crank and cam seals at the
same time because the additional labor is so low, but on such a new car I
doubt it's worth it this time. Maybe next time. At least those won't destroy
the belt without warning (oil drips in this case).
Labor costs vary widely. $600 is on the high side. Call around for
estimates - everybody knows how much work it will take and can give you a
firm quote.
Mike
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>I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
>
As the others say, yes, there is a high probability of very serious damage
to the engine if the timing belt fails. They don't always break, but the
teeth strip off a section and that has the same effect. Also as they say,
changing the water pump is a very good thing to do at the same time as the
old one may seize and cause the timing belt to fail. Even if the water pump
just starts leaking you don't want to go through all this again to change
it. In addition, the tensioner should be replaced when the belt is changed
for the same main reason as the pump - if it seizes the timing belt will be
destroyed. Some people like to change the front crank and cam seals at the
same time because the additional labor is so low, but on such a new car I
doubt it's worth it this time. Maybe next time. At least those won't destroy
the belt without warning (oil drips in this case).
Labor costs vary widely. $600 is on the high side. Call around for
estimates - everybody knows how much work it will take and can give you a
firm quote.
Mike
03-05-2006, 01:37 PM
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement
Replace the belt at least. My mechanic said he did not usually replace the
water pump at the same time.
Yes the belts do break leaving you at least stranded, if not with bent
valves. I had an 88 and a coworker had an 89. (At the time there was no
scheduled replacement in the owner's manual). Both belts broke at abouit
118K miles. I now have a 92 and a 93. I replaced both belts at 90K, and I
replaced the 92 AGAIN at 190K.
The job may be somewhat cheaper at an independent mechanic if you have one
you trust.
YMMV
sriki07@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
water pump at the same time.
Yes the belts do break leaving you at least stranded, if not with bent
valves. I had an 88 and a coworker had an 89. (At the time there was no
scheduled replacement in the owner's manual). Both belts broke at abouit
118K miles. I now have a 92 and a 93. I replaced both belts at 90K, and I
replaced the 92 AGAIN at 190K.
The job may be somewhat cheaper at an independent mechanic if you have one
you trust.
YMMV
sriki07@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>
> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>
> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Sikanth
03-05-2006, 02:03 PM
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement
The water pump is a $50 items and it makes no sense not to change it while
the engine is apart. Also there are other belts and tensioners that need
replacing. Get the job done right. It's money well spent.
G-Man
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> Replace the belt at least. My mechanic said he did not usually replace the
> water pump at the same time.
>
> Yes the belts do break leaving you at least stranded, if not with bent
> valves. I had an 88 and a coworker had an 89. (At the time there was no
> scheduled replacement in the owner's manual). Both belts broke at abouit
> 118K miles. I now have a 92 and a 93. I replaced both belts at 90K, and
> I
> replaced the 92 AGAIN at 190K.
>
> The job may be somewhat cheaper at an independent mechanic if you have one
> you trust.
>
> YMMV
>
> sriki07@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
>> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
>> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
>> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>>
>> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
>> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
>> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
>> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>>
>> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sikanth
>
the engine is apart. Also there are other belts and tensioners that need
replacing. Get the job done right. It's money well spent.
G-Man
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> Replace the belt at least. My mechanic said he did not usually replace the
> water pump at the same time.
>
> Yes the belts do break leaving you at least stranded, if not with bent
> valves. I had an 88 and a coworker had an 89. (At the time there was no
> scheduled replacement in the owner's manual). Both belts broke at abouit
> 118K miles. I now have a 92 and a 93. I replaced both belts at 90K, and
> I
> replaced the 92 AGAIN at 190K.
>
> The job may be somewhat cheaper at an independent mechanic if you have one
> you trust.
>
> YMMV
>
> sriki07@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have a 99 Ex which has done about 77k miles. I'm in the window to
>> change the timing belt. I've heard that the timing belt replacement is
>> a complicated job and take about half a day. I've also been told that
>> when the belt is being changed it's advisable to change the water pump.
>>
>> Could someone please tell me what is the worst case scenario if the
>> belts die out while driving. I've been told it can cause catastrophic
>> damage to the engine, but I'm not sure how? Can someone please explain
>> how? Also is it a 600$ job ?
>>
>> This is my first car and hence all the above questions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sikanth
>
03-05-2006, 10:06 PM
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"sriki07@gmail.com" <sriki07@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Tnx Guys!!
>
> Srikanth
>
If an Accord, make sure the balancer belt is changed at the same time!
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> Tnx Guys!!
>
> Srikanth
>
If an Accord, make sure the balancer belt is changed at the same time!
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