Timing Belt Shredded
 

"02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt began
making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and engine
quit.
Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see some
wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?

Bob

Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt began
> making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and engine
> quit.
> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see
> some wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>
> Bob
Hi,
Wondering who install the belt?

Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt began
> making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and engine
> quit.
> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see
> some wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>
> Bob
Hi,
Wondering who install the belt?

Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in
news:46f3dd82$0$32476$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt
> began
> making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and
> engine quit.
> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see
> some
> wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>
> Bob
>


Can happen if tensioner seizes. Was the tensioner also replaced 7000 miles
ago?

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Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in
news:46f3dd82$0$32476$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt
> began
> making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and
> engine quit.
> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see
> some
> wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>
> Bob
>


Can happen if tensioner seizes. Was the tensioner also replaced 7000 miles
ago?

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Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

Sounds like either a bad tensioner or an overtightened or defective belt.

Either way, you are now looking at least at about $1000 repair bill to repair
the valve train. Depending on the damage to the timing cover, you may need a
new one (possibly could get from a wrecker, but unlikely). Also, the Crank
angle sensor could have been damaged, its a $130 dealer part.

When this happend on my sister's 99 civic, it ended up costing over $1200.
Also, not all of the valves may be bent. You'll need a new head gasket and
head bolts as well. Go for a honda head gasket for sure.

t

N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt began
>making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and engine
>quit.
> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see some
>wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>
> Bob

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Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

Sounds like either a bad tensioner or an overtightened or defective belt.

Either way, you are now looking at least at about $1000 repair bill to repair
the valve train. Depending on the damage to the timing cover, you may need a
new one (possibly could get from a wrecker, but unlikely). Also, the Crank
angle sensor could have been damaged, its a $130 dealer part.

When this happend on my sister's 99 civic, it ended up costing over $1200.
Also, not all of the valves may be bent. You'll need a new head gasket and
head bolts as well. Go for a honda head gasket for sure.

t

N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt began
>making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and engine
>quit.
> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see some
>wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>
> Bob

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Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Sounds like either a bad tensioner or an overtightened or defective belt.

indeed. or a seized water pump.


>
> Either way, you are now looking at least at about $1000 repair bill to repair
> the valve train. Depending on the damage to the timing cover, you may need a
> new one (possibly could get from a wrecker, but unlikely). Also, the Crank
> angle sensor could have been damaged, its a $130 dealer part.
>
> When this happend on my sister's 99 civic, it ended up costing over $1200.
> Also, not all of the valves may be bent. You'll need a new head gasket and
> head bolts as well.

don't need new head bolts in the d-series motors - ok to re-use originals.


> Go for a honda head gasket for sure.
>
> t
>
> N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
>> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt began
>> making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and engine
>> quit.
>> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see some
>> wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
>> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>>
>> Bob
>

Re: Timing Belt Shredded
 

loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Sounds like either a bad tensioner or an overtightened or defective belt.

indeed. or a seized water pump.


>
> Either way, you are now looking at least at about $1000 repair bill to repair
> the valve train. Depending on the damage to the timing cover, you may need a
> new one (possibly could get from a wrecker, but unlikely). Also, the Crank
> angle sensor could have been damaged, its a $130 dealer part.
>
> When this happend on my sister's 99 civic, it ended up costing over $1200.
> Also, not all of the valves may be bent. You'll need a new head gasket and
> head bolts as well.

don't need new head bolts in the d-series motors - ok to re-use originals.


> Go for a honda head gasket for sure.
>
> t
>
> N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
>> "02 Civic, 7000 miles on new Honda belt and water pump. Belt began
>> making noise, and while driving to have looked at belt broke and engine
>> quit.
>> Belt scraps were in long pieces of rubber coated string. Can see some
>> wear on lower cover. Bent all the valves.
>> Anyone out there seen a belt give up like this?
>>
>> Bob
>

More Info From N.E. Ohio Bob
 

Work was done by professional Honda-Acura mechanic. He is sole
proprietor in his own shop. He has many years of Honda dealership
experience, and does about three timing belts a week.
Tensioner wasn't replaced, but feels fine. Water pump was new (Honda)
with belt, and also rotates freely and has no rough spots on gear.
Will replace all valves and needed gaskets. Probably will replace
tensioner too.
Can give more info next week as work progresses.

Thanks for your info. bob

More Info From N.E. Ohio Bob
 

Work was done by professional Honda-Acura mechanic. He is sole
proprietor in his own shop. He has many years of Honda dealership
experience, and does about three timing belts a week.
Tensioner wasn't replaced, but feels fine. Water pump was new (Honda)
with belt, and also rotates freely and has no rough spots on gear.
Will replace all valves and needed gaskets. Probably will replace
tensioner too.
Can give more info next week as work progresses.

Thanks for your info. bob

Re: More Info From N.E. Ohio Bob
 

wow man that sucks.

If the guy is worth his salt, he should at least offer a discount on labor to
rework your top end...

It is a rarity to hear that someone who is actually on top of the maintenance
plan gets pooched like this....

t

N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
> Work was done by professional Honda-Acura mechanic. He is sole
>proprietor in his own shop. He has many years of Honda dealership
>experience, and does about three timing belts a week.
> Tensioner wasn't replaced, but feels fine. Water pump was new (Honda)
>with belt, and also rotates freely and has no rough spots on gear.
> Will replace all valves and needed gaskets. Probably will replace
>tensioner too.
> Can give more info next week as work progresses.
>
> Thanks for your info. bob

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Re: More Info From N.E. Ohio Bob
 

wow man that sucks.

If the guy is worth his salt, he should at least offer a discount on labor to
rework your top end...

It is a rarity to hear that someone who is actually on top of the maintenance
plan gets pooched like this....

t

N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
> Work was done by professional Honda-Acura mechanic. He is sole
>proprietor in his own shop. He has many years of Honda dealership
>experience, and does about three timing belts a week.
> Tensioner wasn't replaced, but feels fine. Water pump was new (Honda)
>with belt, and also rotates freely and has no rough spots on gear.
> Will replace all valves and needed gaskets. Probably will replace
>tensioner too.
> Can give more info next week as work progresses.
>
> Thanks for your info. bob

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Re: More Info From N.E. Ohio Bob
 

On Sep 22, 6:22 am, "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstr...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Work was done by professional Honda-Acura mechanic. He is sole
> proprietor in his own shop. He has many years of Honda dealership
> experience, and does about three timing belts a week.
> Tensioner wasn't replaced, but feels fine. Water pump was new (Honda)
> with belt, and also rotates freely and has no rough spots on gear.
> Will replace all valves and needed gaskets. Probably will replace
> tensioner too.
> Can give more info next week as work progresses.
>
> Thanks for your info. bob

How many miles were on when you replaced the belt/pump? The guy
shouldn't give a discount, he should do it for free. He was the
mechanic that did the "job", he should be responsible for the repair.
Of course, if he did this job and messed it up, why would you want him
to do another job for u?

Re: More Info From N.E. Ohio Bob
 

On Sep 22, 6:22 am, "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstr...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Work was done by professional Honda-Acura mechanic. He is sole
> proprietor in his own shop. He has many years of Honda dealership
> experience, and does about three timing belts a week.
> Tensioner wasn't replaced, but feels fine. Water pump was new (Honda)
> with belt, and also rotates freely and has no rough spots on gear.
> Will replace all valves and needed gaskets. Probably will replace
> tensioner too.
> Can give more info next week as work progresses.
>
> Thanks for your info. bob

How many miles were on when you replaced the belt/pump? The guy
shouldn't give a discount, he should do it for free. He was the
mechanic that did the "job", he should be responsible for the repair.
Of course, if he did this job and messed it up, why would you want him
to do another job for u?