Re: Timing Belt/Water Pump Cost
 

nerdwizard wrote:
>
> Changed my own, on my VTech engines, and ALWAYS do the kit of tensioner
> with belt, plus, water pump, Thermostat, and all belts and hoses.
>
> I'll spend about $160.00 for the parts, and got them for two of my most

[snip]

> But, the local Honda dealers charge around $600
> just to do the tensioner, belt and Water Pump. That includes
> antifreeze. I trust Courtesy Honda absolutely, if I want to spend the
> $600 and let them do it.
>
> But, I have been a mechanic and also have worked on the line, since 1964
> (20+years in the USAF). So, I already have both; the tools, and the
> 'feel' for working on machines.
>
> I use genuine antifreeze and cut it myself. All A/F is supposed to meet
> Federal specifications, and be interchangeable. Never had a problem
> with Prestone or any other I have mixed. The only fluid I DO insist to
> use from Honda is the Power Steering Lubricant!
>
> But, I was born in St. Paul, in 1946. Relatives report similar pricing
> there.
>
> The job takes me about 8 hours, with lots of coffee breaks. Biggest
> part of the work is removing the crank bolt! Honda uses Anaerobic Thread
> locking compound. You might know it as Lock Tite. The crank bolt is
> then torqued to about 360 Foot/Pounds of torque.

That's interesting. The factory service manual for my Civic specs 119
ft-lbs for the torque on the crank pulley bolt. It also states that engine
oil should be used on the threads. Moreover, in all of the years that I
worked on Hondas, I've never come across any trace of Loctite on the
threads.

Eric

Re: Timing Belt/Water Pump Cost
 

nerdwizard wrote:
>
> Changed my own, on my VTech engines, and ALWAYS do the kit of tensioner
> with belt, plus, water pump, Thermostat, and all belts and hoses.
>
> I'll spend about $160.00 for the parts, and got them for two of my most

[snip]

> But, the local Honda dealers charge around $600
> just to do the tensioner, belt and Water Pump. That includes
> antifreeze. I trust Courtesy Honda absolutely, if I want to spend the
> $600 and let them do it.
>
> But, I have been a mechanic and also have worked on the line, since 1964
> (20+years in the USAF). So, I already have both; the tools, and the
> 'feel' for working on machines.
>
> I use genuine antifreeze and cut it myself. All A/F is supposed to meet
> Federal specifications, and be interchangeable. Never had a problem
> with Prestone or any other I have mixed. The only fluid I DO insist to
> use from Honda is the Power Steering Lubricant!
>
> But, I was born in St. Paul, in 1946. Relatives report similar pricing
> there.
>
> The job takes me about 8 hours, with lots of coffee breaks. Biggest
> part of the work is removing the crank bolt! Honda uses Anaerobic Thread
> locking compound. You might know it as Lock Tite. The crank bolt is
> then torqued to about 360 Foot/Pounds of torque.

That's interesting. The factory service manual for my Civic specs 119
ft-lbs for the torque on the crank pulley bolt. It also states that engine
oil should be used on the threads. Moreover, in all of the years that I
worked on Hondas, I've never come across any trace of Loctite on the
threads.

Eric

Re: Timing Belt/Water Pump Cost
 

Hey, thanks for all the responses to my original post!

I had my timing belt and water pump replaced last week. They quoted me $600
for this and then added another $20 for a "drive belt" they said I needed
once they got in there.

I ended up getting a 10% discount for being a long time customer so my total
for all this came to $560 including tax.

I feel better now that I've had it done.

Re: Timing Belt/Water Pump Cost
 

Hey, thanks for all the responses to my original post!

I had my timing belt and water pump replaced last week. They quoted me $600
for this and then added another $20 for a "drive belt" they said I needed
once they got in there.

I ended up getting a 10% discount for being a long time customer so my total
for all this came to $560 including tax.

I feel better now that I've had it done.

Re: Timing Belt/Water Pump Cost
 

Eric wrote:
> nerdwizard wrote:
>> Changed my own, on my VTech engines, and ALWAYS do the kit of tensioner
>> with belt, plus, water pump, Thermostat, and all belts and hoses.
>>
>> I'll spend about $160.00 for the parts, and got them for two of my most
>
> [snip]
>
>> But, the local Honda dealers charge around $600
>> just to do the tensioner, belt and Water Pump. That includes
>> antifreeze. I trust Courtesy Honda absolutely, if I want to spend the
>> $600 and let them do it.
>>
>> But, I have been a mechanic and also have worked on the line, since 1964
>> (20+years in the USAF). So, I already have both; the tools, and the
>> 'feel' for working on machines.
>>
>> I use genuine antifreeze and cut it myself. All A/F is supposed to meet
>> Federal specifications, and be interchangeable. Never had a problem
>> with Prestone or any other I have mixed. The only fluid I DO insist to
>> use from Honda is the Power Steering Lubricant!
>>
>> But, I was born in St. Paul, in 1946. Relatives report similar pricing
>> there.
>>
>> The job takes me about 8 hours, with lots of coffee breaks. Biggest
>> part of the work is removing the crank bolt! Honda uses Anaerobic Thread
>> locking compound. You might know it as Lock Tite. The crank bolt is
>> then torqued to about 360 Foot/Pounds of torque.
>
> That's interesting. The factory service manual for my Civic specs 119
> ft-lbs for the torque on the crank pulley bolt. It also states that engine
> oil should be used on the threads. Moreover, in all of the years that I
> worked on Hondas, I've never come across any trace of Loctite on the
> threads.
>
dude, this is usenet. reality is that the bolts are crazy-tight to
remove, but the re-tightening torque is as you say.

Re: Timing Belt/Water Pump Cost
 

Eric wrote:
> nerdwizard wrote:
>> Changed my own, on my VTech engines, and ALWAYS do the kit of tensioner
>> with belt, plus, water pump, Thermostat, and all belts and hoses.
>>
>> I'll spend about $160.00 for the parts, and got them for two of my most
>
> [snip]
>
>> But, the local Honda dealers charge around $600
>> just to do the tensioner, belt and Water Pump. That includes
>> antifreeze. I trust Courtesy Honda absolutely, if I want to spend the
>> $600 and let them do it.
>>
>> But, I have been a mechanic and also have worked on the line, since 1964
>> (20+years in the USAF). So, I already have both; the tools, and the
>> 'feel' for working on machines.
>>
>> I use genuine antifreeze and cut it myself. All A/F is supposed to meet
>> Federal specifications, and be interchangeable. Never had a problem
>> with Prestone or any other I have mixed. The only fluid I DO insist to
>> use from Honda is the Power Steering Lubricant!
>>
>> But, I was born in St. Paul, in 1946. Relatives report similar pricing
>> there.
>>
>> The job takes me about 8 hours, with lots of coffee breaks. Biggest
>> part of the work is removing the crank bolt! Honda uses Anaerobic Thread
>> locking compound. You might know it as Lock Tite. The crank bolt is
>> then torqued to about 360 Foot/Pounds of torque.
>
> That's interesting. The factory service manual for my Civic specs 119
> ft-lbs for the torque on the crank pulley bolt. It also states that engine
> oil should be used on the threads. Moreover, in all of the years that I
> worked on Hondas, I've never come across any trace of Loctite on the
> threads.
>
dude, this is usenet. reality is that the bolts are crazy-tight to
remove, but the re-tightening torque is as you say.