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transmission == toast ?
I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz
of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive and the fluid smells like toast. Can anyone give me some advice on what needs replaced in this component? Is there any hope that the transmission can be revived? Thanks. Tom |
Re: transmission == toast ?
"Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about > 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid > change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the > transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive "Won't drive" is awfully vague. Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage. From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such as precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental conditions, exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing. Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY! > and the fluid > smells like toast. > I like toast, but not in a transmission. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast ?
"Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about > 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid > change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the > transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive "Won't drive" is awfully vague. Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage. From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such as precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental conditions, exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing. Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY! > and the fluid > smells like toast. > I like toast, but not in a transmission. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast ?
you are right tegger, quite vague.
2001 honda civic ex, sedan. auto trans. 95,544 miles. the engine seems fine, but from a stop sign i cant get moveing. the rpm goes up, but the car wont move. really. before the final moments today [final moments = condition the car is in now], it was shifting from 2 to 3 and instead of droping rpm between shifts the rpm went up. I hope this helps, I am just disgusted right now, trying to come to terms with all this. I am beyond denial I beleive. Tom "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message news:Xns99DBDB4797EDCtegger@207.14.116.130... > "Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about >> 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid >> change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the >> transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive > > > > "Won't drive" is awfully vague. > > Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You > can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage. > > From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such > as > precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would > include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental > conditions, > exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing. > > Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation > of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT > PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY! > > >> and the fluid >> smells like toast. >> > > > I like toast, but not in a transmission. > > > -- > Tegger > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ > www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast ?
you are right tegger, quite vague.
2001 honda civic ex, sedan. auto trans. 95,544 miles. the engine seems fine, but from a stop sign i cant get moveing. the rpm goes up, but the car wont move. really. before the final moments today [final moments = condition the car is in now], it was shifting from 2 to 3 and instead of droping rpm between shifts the rpm went up. I hope this helps, I am just disgusted right now, trying to come to terms with all this. I am beyond denial I beleive. Tom "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message news:Xns99DBDB4797EDCtegger@207.14.116.130... > "Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about >> 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid >> change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the >> transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive > > > > "Won't drive" is awfully vague. > > Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You > can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage. > > From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such > as > precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would > include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental > conditions, > exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing. > > Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation > of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT > PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY! > > >> and the fluid >> smells like toast. >> > > > I like toast, but not in a transmission. > > > -- > Tegger > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ > www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast _OR_ Jam ?
Interesting. I will use your advice.
HG == Honda Genuine. "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:13il0lnapfvjfb1@corp.supernews.com... > Burk wrote: >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 >> oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! > > -------------------------- > > What is HG ATF ? You're not supposed to use anything but Honda Z1. > > At least tell us if we're talking about a HONDA . . . > > To get the burnt crap out, I'd drain it and fill with Dexron, run it > through the gears and check the level carefully. Then I'd try driving it. > If it runs, even so-so, I'd then spend the money and do THREE > drain-n-fills with Honda Z1. > > 'Curly' |
Re: transmission == toast _OR_ Jam ?
Interesting. I will use your advice.
HG == Honda Genuine. "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:13il0lnapfvjfb1@corp.supernews.com... > Burk wrote: >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 >> oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! > > -------------------------- > > What is HG ATF ? You're not supposed to use anything but Honda Z1. > > At least tell us if we're talking about a HONDA . . . > > To get the burnt crap out, I'd drain it and fill with Dexron, run it > through the gears and check the level carefully. Then I'd try driving it. > If it runs, even so-so, I'd then spend the money and do THREE > drain-n-fills with Honda Z1. > > 'Curly' |
Re: transmission == toast _OR_ Jam ?
Would this apply to my case?
TSB #04036 -- VEHICLE CANNOT MOVE WHEN DRIVE IS SELECTED; MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP COMES ON OR D INDICATOR BLINKS WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P0730. *TT SUPERCEDES 04-036, DATED 07/13/2004. *TT (NHTSA ID #10010754, JANUARY 07 2005) I did get this code, I stopped at advance auto tonight and this was the code. Sorry Tegger, my mind is fried right now. Tom "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:13il0lnapfvjfb1@corp.supernews.com... > Burk wrote: >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 >> oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! > > -------------------------- > > What is HG ATF ? You're not supposed to use anything but Honda Z1. > > At least tell us if we're talking about a HONDA . . . > > To get the burnt crap out, I'd drain it and fill with Dexron, run it > through the gears and check the level carefully. Then I'd try driving it. > If it runs, even so-so, I'd then spend the money and do THREE > drain-n-fills with Honda Z1. > > 'Curly' |
Re: transmission == toast _OR_ Jam ?
Would this apply to my case?
TSB #04036 -- VEHICLE CANNOT MOVE WHEN DRIVE IS SELECTED; MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP COMES ON OR D INDICATOR BLINKS WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P0730. *TT SUPERCEDES 04-036, DATED 07/13/2004. *TT (NHTSA ID #10010754, JANUARY 07 2005) I did get this code, I stopped at advance auto tonight and this was the code. Sorry Tegger, my mind is fried right now. Tom "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:13il0lnapfvjfb1@corp.supernews.com... > Burk wrote: >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 >> oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! > > -------------------------- > > What is HG ATF ? You're not supposed to use anything but Honda Z1. > > At least tell us if we're talking about a HONDA . . . > > To get the burnt crap out, I'd drain it and fill with Dexron, run it > through the gears and check the level carefully. Then I'd try driving it. > If it runs, even so-so, I'd then spend the money and do THREE > drain-n-fills with Honda Z1. > > 'Curly' |
Re: transmission == toast ?
Tegger,
this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main tranny oil pump blowing. What should I do now? Tom <snip> The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission. I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center. Bulletin #: 04036 Sequence #: 10010754 Date: 01/07/2005 Component Name: 103000 power train:automatic transmission Make: Honda Model: Civic Year: 2002 Summary: Vehicle cannot move when drive is selected; malfunction indicator lamp comes on or d indicator blinks with automatic transmission diagnostic trouble code p0730. *tt supercedes 04-036, dated 07/13/2004. *tt </snip> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message news:Xns99DBDB4797EDCtegger@207.14.116.130... > "Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about >> 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid >> change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the >> transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive > > > > "Won't drive" is awfully vague. > > Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You > can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage. > > From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such > as > precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would > include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental > conditions, > exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing. > > Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation > of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT > PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY! > > >> and the fluid >> smells like toast. >> > > > I like toast, but not in a transmission. > > > -- > Tegger > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ > www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast ?
Tegger,
this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main tranny oil pump blowing. What should I do now? Tom <snip> The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission. I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center. Bulletin #: 04036 Sequence #: 10010754 Date: 01/07/2005 Component Name: 103000 power train:automatic transmission Make: Honda Model: Civic Year: 2002 Summary: Vehicle cannot move when drive is selected; malfunction indicator lamp comes on or d indicator blinks with automatic transmission diagnostic trouble code p0730. *tt supercedes 04-036, dated 07/13/2004. *tt </snip> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message news:Xns99DBDB4797EDCtegger@207.14.116.130... > "Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > >> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about >> 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid >> change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the >> transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive > > > > "Won't drive" is awfully vague. > > Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You > can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage. > > From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such > as > precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would > include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental > conditions, > exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing. > > Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation > of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT > PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY! > > >> and the fluid >> smells like toast. >> > > > I like toast, but not in a transmission. > > > -- > Tegger > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ > www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast _OR_ Jam ?
Burk wrote:
> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz > of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! -------------------------- What is HG ATF ? You're not supposed to use anything but Honda Z1. At least tell us if we're talking about a HONDA . . . To get the burnt crap out, I'd drain it and fill with Dexron, run it through the gears and check the level carefully. Then I'd try driving it. If it runs, even so-so, I'd then spend the money and do THREE drain-n-fills with Honda Z1. 'Curly' |
Re: transmission == toast _OR_ Jam ?
Burk wrote:
> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz > of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! -------------------------- What is HG ATF ? You're not supposed to use anything but Honda Z1. At least tell us if we're talking about a HONDA . . . To get the burnt crap out, I'd drain it and fill with Dexron, run it through the gears and check the level carefully. Then I'd try driving it. If it runs, even so-so, I'd then spend the money and do THREE drain-n-fills with Honda Z1. 'Curly' |
Re: transmission == toast ?
Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and
fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high. Thank you in advance, Tom "Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz >of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself, >no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the transmission started >acting up. Now, it wont drive and the fluid smells like toast. > > Can anyone give me some advice on what needs replaced in this component? > Is there any hope that the transmission can be revived? > > Thanks. > Tom > |
Re: transmission == toast ?
Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and
fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high. Thank you in advance, Tom "Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz >of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself, >no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the transmission started >acting up. Now, it wont drive and the fluid smells like toast. > > Can anyone give me some advice on what needs replaced in this component? > Is there any hope that the transmission can be revived? > > Thanks. > Tom > |
Re: transmission == toast ?
"Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:472a89b5$0$28838$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > Tegger, > > this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said > that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt > pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main > tranny oil pump blowing. > > What should I do now? > Tom > > <snip> > The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the > case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical > internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission. > > I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem > and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center. > Sorry for the late response. Been busy. Go here: http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/framerq.asp Sign in with username lib and password access Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from the menu at left. Navigate to your car. The TSB is there. The TSB shows that a worn 2nd clutch can cause this problem. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast ?
"Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:472a89b5$0$28838$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > Tegger, > > this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said > that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt > pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main > tranny oil pump blowing. > > What should I do now? > Tom > > <snip> > The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the > case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical > internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission. > > I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem > and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center. > Sorry for the late response. Been busy. Go here: http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/framerq.asp Sign in with username lib and password access Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from the menu at left. Navigate to your car. The TSB is there. The TSB shows that a worn 2nd clutch can cause this problem. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: transmission == toast ?
you should be able to find a trannie at a wrecker for cheap.
Burk wrote: >Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and >fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high. > >Thank you in advance, >Tom > >>I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz >>of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself, >[quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Thanks. >> Tom -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200711/1 |
Re: transmission == toast ?
you should be able to find a trannie at a wrecker for cheap.
Burk wrote: >Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and >fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high. > >Thank you in advance, >Tom > >>I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz >>of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself, >[quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Thanks. >> Tom -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200711/1 |
Re: transmission == toast ?
for cheap, like 800 bucks. the problem i have with this is that the
transmission should not have failed like it has. i dont want to pay for honda's misjudgment of parts supplier. thanks, and the one i did find locally is a 2002, so, it should be beyond this type of failure. On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:05:10 GMT, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote: >you should be able to find a trannie at a wrecker for cheap. > >Burk wrote: >>Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and >>fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high. >> >>Thank you in advance, >>Tom >> >>>I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz >>>of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself, >>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> Thanks. >>> Tom |
Re: transmission == toast ?
for cheap, like 800 bucks. the problem i have with this is that the
transmission should not have failed like it has. i dont want to pay for honda's misjudgment of parts supplier. thanks, and the one i did find locally is a 2002, so, it should be beyond this type of failure. On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:05:10 GMT, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote: >you should be able to find a trannie at a wrecker for cheap. > >Burk wrote: >>Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and >>fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high. >> >>Thank you in advance, >>Tom >> >>>I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz >>>of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself, >>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> Thanks. >>> Tom |
Re: transmission == toast ?
Excellent information tegger. that bulletin really hits the target.
i wish my D would have been blinking which would have sealed the diagnosis. here is what the honda dealer tells me. i have a p0730 gear ratio out of adjustment, and p0740 clutch 'issues' or slippage i forget the description. its not covered under an extended warranty. i have taken excellent care of this vehicle, this is the strangest failure i have encountered in my life with cars. On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:55:47 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote: >"Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:472a89b5$0$28838$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > >> Tegger, >> >> this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said >> that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt >> pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main >> tranny oil pump blowing. >> >> What should I do now? >> Tom >> >> <snip> >> The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the >> case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical >> internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission. >> >> I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem >> and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center. >> > > > >Sorry for the late response. Been busy. > >Go here: >http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/framerq.asp >Sign in with username lib and password access > >Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from the menu at left. Navigate to your >car. The TSB is there. > >The TSB shows that a worn 2nd clutch can cause this problem. |
Re: transmission == toast ?
Excellent information tegger. that bulletin really hits the target.
i wish my D would have been blinking which would have sealed the diagnosis. here is what the honda dealer tells me. i have a p0730 gear ratio out of adjustment, and p0740 clutch 'issues' or slippage i forget the description. its not covered under an extended warranty. i have taken excellent care of this vehicle, this is the strangest failure i have encountered in my life with cars. On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:55:47 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote: >"Burk" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:472a89b5$0$28838$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > >> Tegger, >> >> this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said >> that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt >> pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main >> tranny oil pump blowing. >> >> What should I do now? >> Tom >> >> <snip> >> The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the >> case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical >> internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission. >> >> I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem >> and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center. >> > > > >Sorry for the late response. Been busy. > >Go here: >http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/framerq.asp >Sign in with username lib and password access > >Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from the menu at left. Navigate to your >car. The TSB is there. > >The TSB shows that a worn 2nd clutch can cause this problem. |
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