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Ryan Radford 11-01-2003 12:08 AM

Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck of
a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's starting
to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually start.
It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
"hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I can
usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:


- New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
flush and cooling system sealer

- New Fuel Filter

- Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
Assembly.

- New Battery (within 2 months).



After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a coincidence).
Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.



I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
pump, and a few other things I can't remember.



Any ideas or tips to look for?



Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great. No
apparant loss of power while driving or anything.



Thanks,



Ryan

rrradford@yahoo.com



Mikey 11-03-2003 09:59 PM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
You might have a "lazy" fuel pump. When you click on the start position and
the lights on the dash light up, hold it there. You should hear the fuel
pump, hum or whine. If it doesn't you either need to replace your main relay
or your fuel pump is becoming intermittent. I am leaning more to the fuel
pump since the weather is cool. Good luck.
"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>




Mikey 11-03-2003 09:59 PM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
You might have a "lazy" fuel pump. When you click on the start position and
the lights on the dash light up, hold it there. You should hear the fuel
pump, hum or whine. If it doesn't you either need to replace your main relay
or your fuel pump is becoming intermittent. I am leaning more to the fuel
pump since the weather is cool. Good luck.
"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>




Mikey 11-03-2003 09:59 PM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
You might have a "lazy" fuel pump. When you click on the start position and
the lights on the dash light up, hold it there. You should hear the fuel
pump, hum or whine. If it doesn't you either need to replace your main relay
or your fuel pump is becoming intermittent. I am leaning more to the fuel
pump since the weather is cool. Good luck.
"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>




Mikey 11-03-2003 09:59 PM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
You might have a "lazy" fuel pump. When you click on the start position and
the lights on the dash light up, hold it there. You should hear the fuel
pump, hum or whine. If it doesn't you either need to replace your main relay
or your fuel pump is becoming intermittent. I am leaning more to the fuel
pump since the weather is cool. Good luck.
"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>




acolver 11-04-2003 11:28 AM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
Do you plug your car in at night? I'm from Alaska and most cars come with a
block heater that prove to be invaluable during the winter months.
especially if your car is outside. A cold engine block will have a hell of a
time turning over if she's cold and frozen. Also a cold engine start can
easily put much un-needed stress on your engine.



"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>




acolver 11-04-2003 11:28 AM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
Do you plug your car in at night? I'm from Alaska and most cars come with a
block heater that prove to be invaluable during the winter months.
especially if your car is outside. A cold engine block will have a hell of a
time turning over if she's cold and frozen. Also a cold engine start can
easily put much un-needed stress on your engine.



"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>




acolver 11-04-2003 11:28 AM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
Do you plug your car in at night? I'm from Alaska and most cars come with a
block heater that prove to be invaluable during the winter months.
especially if your car is outside. A cold engine block will have a hell of a
time turning over if she's cold and frozen. Also a cold engine start can
easily put much un-needed stress on your engine.



"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>




acolver 11-04-2003 11:28 AM

Re: Trouble Starting 92 Prelude on cold mornings
 
Do you plug your car in at night? I'm from Alaska and most cars come with a
block heater that prove to be invaluable during the winter months.
especially if your car is outside. A cold engine block will have a hell of a
time turning over if she's cold and frozen. Also a cold engine start can
easily put much un-needed stress on your engine.



"Ryan Radford" <rradford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:HdHob.240823$9l5.228356@pd7tw2no...
> I have a 1992 Honda Prelude SR with about 193,000km on it. It has a heck

of
> a time starting on cold mornings (I'm in Vancouver, Canada and it's

starting
> to get pretty cool out here, so my troubles are just starting). It will
> turn over fine over and over and over again, but it will not actually

start.
> It will sound as if the engine is going to engage, but it can never quite
> "hold it" and actually get it started. I know it's not great to do for a
> fuel-injected car, but the only way it will start is to actually give it
> some gas while it's turning over. After about 1-2 minutes of playing, I

can
> usually get it started. Once it has been started once it's fine for the
> rest of the day. It'll fire up no problem. In warmer weather I've never
> had any problems with it. In the last year I've had the following done:
>
>
> - New Upper Radiator Hose, Thermostat, Thermostat Gasket, Rad cap + rad
> flush and cooling system sealer
>
> - New Fuel Filter
>
> - Tune up from Honda Dealer: 4x "Spark Plug NGK", Rotor Head Assembly, Cap
> Assembly.
>
> - New Battery (within 2 months).
>
>
>
> After I had the Tune up from Honda, it seemed to be starting better, but I
> think the weather was getting warmer too (may have just been a

coincidence).
> Now that we're back to having cold weather (around freezing level) and I'm
> having the same problems I seem to think that may have been the case.
>
>
>
> I had some people suggest a new TW Sensor (???) (is this a computer
> temperature sensor, which incidentally someone else suggested?), a fuel
> pump, and a few other things I can't remember.
>
>
>
> Any ideas or tips to look for?
>
>
>
> Also, if it's relevant, when the car is actually running, it runs great.

No
> apparant loss of power while driving or anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
> rrradford@yahoo.com
>
>





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