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URGENT! Brake Help
I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But maybe not since it's not going back together. Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed today! Thanks |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in news:1158773809.184308.165240
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > Is the adjuster loose even with the shoe return spring in place? -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in news:1158773809.184308.165240
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > Is the adjuster loose even with the shoe return spring in place? -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in news:1158773809.184308.165240
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > Is the adjuster loose even with the shoe return spring in place? -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
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> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate? Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's pistons in before connecting it to the brake line. This could cause a "hydraulic lock" preventing the shoes from coming back to a full return position. If you suspect this might be the case, try opening the bleeder valve to see if the return springs pull the shoes inward. Eric |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
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> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate? Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's pistons in before connecting it to the brake line. This could cause a "hydraulic lock" preventing the shoes from coming back to a full return position. If you suspect this might be the case, try opening the bleeder valve to see if the return springs pull the shoes inward. Eric |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
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> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate? Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's pistons in before connecting it to the brake line. This could cause a "hydraulic lock" preventing the shoes from coming back to a full return position. If you suspect this might be the case, try opening the bleeder valve to see if the return springs pull the shoes inward. Eric |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Try pushing the wheel cylinder pistons in, I assume you already bleed
the line. The Man wrote: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Try pushing the wheel cylinder pistons in, I assume you already bleed
the line. The Man wrote: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Try pushing the wheel cylinder pistons in, I assume you already bleed
the line. The Man wrote: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158773809.184308.165240@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks > In addition to the other comments, make sure the slotted pieces (cylinder ends and adjuster) are seated on the shoes. I've had them bind and not allow the shoes to come in all the way. If only one side is the problem, you can compare clearances to the other side. Otherwise, is it possible the parts you got are wrong? Mike |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158773809.184308.165240@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks > In addition to the other comments, make sure the slotted pieces (cylinder ends and adjuster) are seated on the shoes. I've had them bind and not allow the shoes to come in all the way. If only one side is the problem, you can compare clearances to the other side. Otherwise, is it possible the parts you got are wrong? Mike |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158773809.184308.165240@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks > In addition to the other comments, make sure the slotted pieces (cylinder ends and adjuster) are seated on the shoes. I've had them bind and not allow the shoes to come in all the way. If only one side is the problem, you can compare clearances to the other side. Otherwise, is it possible the parts you got are wrong? Mike |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?
The Man wrote: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks > |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?
The Man wrote: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks > |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?
The Man wrote: > I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to > replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a > problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned > the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But > maybe not since it's not going back together. > > Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed > today! > > Thanks > |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: > > > The Man wrote: >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > > > Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an attempt to fix this. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: > > > The Man wrote: >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > > > Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an attempt to fix this. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: > > > The Man wrote: >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. > > > > Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an attempt to fix this. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:4511A603.E91C6422@spam.now:
>> >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But >> maybe not since it's not going back together. >> >> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed >> today! >> >> Thanks > > Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate? > Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's > pistons in before connecting it to the brake line. I've always found that installation of the return spring is enough to press the pistons all the way in. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:4511A603.E91C6422@spam.now:
>> >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But >> maybe not since it's not going back together. >> >> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed >> today! >> >> Thanks > > Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate? > Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's > pistons in before connecting it to the brake line. I've always found that installation of the return spring is enough to press the pistons all the way in. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:4511A603.E91C6422@spam.now:
>> >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But >> maybe not since it's not going back together. >> >> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed >> today! >> >> Thanks > > Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate? > Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's > pistons in before connecting it to the brake line. I've always found that installation of the return spring is enough to press the pistons all the way in. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
TeGGeR® wrote:
> Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in > news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: > > >> >>The Man wrote: >> >>>I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >>>replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >>>a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >>>turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> >> >>Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? > > > > > That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. > > The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an > attempt to fix this. > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't loosen it back up those drums are not going on. |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
TeGGeR® wrote:
> Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in > news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: > > >> >>The Man wrote: >> >>>I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >>>replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >>>a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >>>turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> >> >>Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? > > > > > That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. > > The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an > attempt to fix this. > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't loosen it back up those drums are not going on. |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
TeGGeR® wrote:
> Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in > news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: > > >> >>The Man wrote: >> >>>I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >>>replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into >>>a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've >>>turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> >> >>Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? > > > > > That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. > > The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an > attempt to fix this. > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't loosen it back up those drums are not going on. |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
"Al" <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:48mQg.211$OM3.205@newsfe11.lga... > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where > someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three > clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't > loosen it back up those drums are not going on. When I've had bad self-adjusters the pedal play was bad enough that I never even gave the parking brake a thought. Mike |
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"Al" <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:48mQg.211$OM3.205@newsfe11.lga... > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where > someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three > clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't > loosen it back up those drums are not going on. When I've had bad self-adjusters the pedal play was bad enough that I never even gave the parking brake a thought. Mike |
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"Al" <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:48mQg.211$OM3.205@newsfe11.lga... > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where > someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three > clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't > loosen it back up those drums are not going on. When I've had bad self-adjusters the pedal play was bad enough that I never even gave the parking brake a thought. Mike |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
news:48mQg.211$OM3.205@newsfe11.lga: > TeGGeR® wrote: >> Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in >> news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: >> >> >>> >>>The Man wrote: >>> >>>>I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >>>>replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran >>>>into a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. >>>>I've turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >>> >>> >>> >>>Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? >> >> >> >> >> That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. >> >> The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car >> in an attempt to fix this. >> >> > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where > someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three > clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you > don't loosen it back up those drums are not going on. > Eh, good point. I forgot the loose-nut-behind-the-wheel factor. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
news:48mQg.211$OM3.205@newsfe11.lga: > TeGGeR® wrote: >> Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in >> news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: >> >> >>> >>>The Man wrote: >>> >>>>I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >>>>replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran >>>>into a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. >>>>I've turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >>> >>> >>> >>>Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? >> >> >> >> >> That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. >> >> The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car >> in an attempt to fix this. >> >> > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where > someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three > clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you > don't loosen it back up those drums are not going on. > Eh, good point. I forgot the loose-nut-behind-the-wheel factor. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
news:48mQg.211$OM3.205@newsfe11.lga: > TeGGeR® wrote: >> Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in >> news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga: >> >> >>> >>>The Man wrote: >>> >>>>I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >>>>replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran >>>>into a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. >>>>I've turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >>> >>> >>> >>>Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? >> >> >> >> >> That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off. >> >> The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car >> in an attempt to fix this. >> >> > > You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where > someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three > clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you > don't loosen it back up those drums are not going on. > Eh, good point. I forgot the loose-nut-behind-the-wheel factor. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:36:38 -0400, Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote:
I had the same problem on a Mazda 626 and ended up using a belt sander to remove lining from the shoes. Good luck >Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? > > > > >The Man wrote: >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a >> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned >> the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But >> maybe not since it's not going back together. >> >> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed >> today! >> >> Thanks >> |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:36:38 -0400, Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote:
I had the same problem on a Mazda 626 and ended up using a belt sander to remove lining from the shoes. Good luck >Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? > > > > >The Man wrote: >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a >> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned >> the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But >> maybe not since it's not going back together. >> >> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed >> today! >> >> Thanks >> |
Re: URGENT! Brake Help
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:36:38 -0400, Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote:
I had the same problem on a Mazda 626 and ended up using a belt sander to remove lining from the shoes. Good luck >Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment? > > > > >The Man wrote: >> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to >> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a >> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned >> the adjuster to the smallest it will go. >> >> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But >> maybe not since it's not going back together. >> >> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed >> today! >> >> Thanks >> |
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