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w_tom 01-31-2004 03:04 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
Each tool was only a few dollars and available most
everywhere - including Kmart. This is one job that virtually
anyone can do - and really not possible to screw up. Even if
it gets done wrong - valves too loose, car will still drive
without damage to dealer. If this task is too difficult or if
tools not available, then don't do anything to a honda; always
get a mechanic. Valve lash being a most simple job, quite
educational. Requires patience and time.

amsjsj wrote:
> thanks for the help but i think im going to have someone do it.
> Im scared when it comes to the inside of the engine stuff know
> what i mean. In plus i dont have all those tools. THanks or the
> advice though.


w_tom 01-31-2004 03:04 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
Each tool was only a few dollars and available most
everywhere - including Kmart. This is one job that virtually
anyone can do - and really not possible to screw up. Even if
it gets done wrong - valves too loose, car will still drive
without damage to dealer. If this task is too difficult or if
tools not available, then don't do anything to a honda; always
get a mechanic. Valve lash being a most simple job, quite
educational. Requires patience and time.

amsjsj wrote:
> thanks for the help but i think im going to have someone do it.
> Im scared when it comes to the inside of the engine stuff know
> what i mean. In plus i dont have all those tools. THanks or the
> advice though.


Eric 01-31-2004 06:26 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
w_tom wrote:
>
> Each tool was only a few dollars and available most
> everywhere - including Kmart. This is one job that virtually
> anyone can do - and really not possible to screw up.


Sure it is, it's possible to screw anything up including a valve
adjustment. I've seen techs get the valve cover gasket on wrong which
caused oil leaks on the timing belt.

I've also seen techs leave the lock nut loose. If this nut backs off all of
the way it can cause physical damage to the engine especially the camshaft.

By the way, buying ultra inexpensive tools from KMart is not a good
investment. Quality tools will pay for themselves over the years that you
own them. I've had some cheap plastic screwdriver handles literally break
apart in my hand as I was using them.

Eric

Eric 01-31-2004 06:26 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
w_tom wrote:
>
> Each tool was only a few dollars and available most
> everywhere - including Kmart. This is one job that virtually
> anyone can do - and really not possible to screw up.


Sure it is, it's possible to screw anything up including a valve
adjustment. I've seen techs get the valve cover gasket on wrong which
caused oil leaks on the timing belt.

I've also seen techs leave the lock nut loose. If this nut backs off all of
the way it can cause physical damage to the engine especially the camshaft.

By the way, buying ultra inexpensive tools from KMart is not a good
investment. Quality tools will pay for themselves over the years that you
own them. I've had some cheap plastic screwdriver handles literally break
apart in my hand as I was using them.

Eric

Eric 01-31-2004 06:26 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
w_tom wrote:
>
> Each tool was only a few dollars and available most
> everywhere - including Kmart. This is one job that virtually
> anyone can do - and really not possible to screw up.


Sure it is, it's possible to screw anything up including a valve
adjustment. I've seen techs get the valve cover gasket on wrong which
caused oil leaks on the timing belt.

I've also seen techs leave the lock nut loose. If this nut backs off all of
the way it can cause physical damage to the engine especially the camshaft.

By the way, buying ultra inexpensive tools from KMart is not a good
investment. Quality tools will pay for themselves over the years that you
own them. I've had some cheap plastic screwdriver handles literally break
apart in my hand as I was using them.

Eric

Eric 01-31-2004 06:26 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
w_tom wrote:
>
> Each tool was only a few dollars and available most
> everywhere - including Kmart. This is one job that virtually
> anyone can do - and really not possible to screw up.


Sure it is, it's possible to screw anything up including a valve
adjustment. I've seen techs get the valve cover gasket on wrong which
caused oil leaks on the timing belt.

I've also seen techs leave the lock nut loose. If this nut backs off all of
the way it can cause physical damage to the engine especially the camshaft.

By the way, buying ultra inexpensive tools from KMart is not a good
investment. Quality tools will pay for themselves over the years that you
own them. I've had some cheap plastic screwdriver handles literally break
apart in my hand as I was using them.

Eric

amsjsj 01-31-2004 07:54 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have the
concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the cam
shaft. What is a breaker bar? Also do i have to replace the gasket?

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue it
> sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> suggestions or tips or help?
>
>




amsjsj 01-31-2004 07:54 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have the
concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the cam
shaft. What is a breaker bar? Also do i have to replace the gasket?

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue it
> sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> suggestions or tips or help?
>
>




amsjsj 01-31-2004 07:54 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have the
concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the cam
shaft. What is a breaker bar? Also do i have to replace the gasket?

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue it
> sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> suggestions or tips or help?
>
>




amsjsj 01-31-2004 07:54 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have the
concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the cam
shaft. What is a breaker bar? Also do i have to replace the gasket?

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue it
> sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> suggestions or tips or help?
>
>




Stephen Bigelow 01-31-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:i7YSb.14385$fZ6.11904@lakeread06...
> Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have

the
> concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the

cam
> shaft. What is a breaker bar?


http://www.justoffbase-tools.co.uk/t...=1I1418P1025M0

Also do i have to replace the gasket?

Always a good idea.

> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue

it
> > sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> > adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> > pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> > suggestions or tips or help?
> >
> >

>
>




Stephen Bigelow 01-31-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:i7YSb.14385$fZ6.11904@lakeread06...
> Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have

the
> concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the

cam
> shaft. What is a breaker bar?


http://www.justoffbase-tools.co.uk/t...=1I1418P1025M0

Also do i have to replace the gasket?

Always a good idea.

> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue

it
> > sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> > adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> > pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> > suggestions or tips or help?
> >
> >

>
>




Stephen Bigelow 01-31-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:i7YSb.14385$fZ6.11904@lakeread06...
> Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have

the
> concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the

cam
> shaft. What is a breaker bar?


http://www.justoffbase-tools.co.uk/t...=1I1418P1025M0

Also do i have to replace the gasket?

Always a good idea.

> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue

it
> > sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> > adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> > pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> > suggestions or tips or help?
> >
> >

>
>




Stephen Bigelow 01-31-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:i7YSb.14385$fZ6.11904@lakeread06...
> Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and i have

the
> concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is the trurning of the

cam
> shaft. What is a breaker bar?


http://www.justoffbase-tools.co.uk/t...=1I1418P1025M0

Also do i have to replace the gasket?

Always a good idea.

> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:OFxSb.12289$fZ6.7954@lakeread06...
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx non vtec. I went to the dealership becasue

it
> > sounds like my engine was ticking. So they sound my valves have to be
> > adjusted. I have a haynes manual. I looked at it and it seems like its
> > pretty hard to do. Is it really that hard to adjust the valves? Any
> > suggestions or tips or help?
> >
> >

>
>




w_tom 01-31-2004 08:33 PM

Re: Valve adjustment
 
Valve cover gasket required replacement when automakers were
more concerned with their costs than the owner's problems.
Today, a valve cover gasket is a neoprene type material that
makes leaks and replacement irrelevant. Valve cover cannot be
attached backwards or incorrectly. Once those four valve
cover nuts are tightened, then valve cover is sealed and
restored - without a new gasket.

Usually removing a cover (after nuts are removed) requires
some gentle prying. Start by separating cover from plastic
timing chain cover - the semicircular round part of valve
cover on your right (left side of car). Valve cover will then
simply peal off the engine. Best not to pry between aluminum
engine and valve cover so as to not dimple the engine's
aluminum.

A hole in wheel well permits turning engine crank shaft - to
rotate pistons and valve cam. Breaker bar (or rachetted
socket wrench) is simply a long shaft that attaches to a 19 mm
socket via a 3 or 4 inch extension. I use a 1/2" drive
socket, extension, and wrench; but 3/8" may also work. (Then
with a 17 mm socket and that breaker bar, I also have a better
wrench, if necessary, to replace a flat tire.)

Forgot to mention that engine must be out of gear (or in
park) so that 19 mm socket can freely rotate engine
crankshaft. This 19 mm socket simply attaches to a bolt at
end of engine crankshaft. Third party maintenance manual
would have pictures of this bolt and pulley wheel (timing
chain pulley wheel connects timing chain from cam to
crankshaft). Turn front wheels fully to left and view that
access hole.

amsjsj wrote:
> Well i foudn some tools, i got the feeler gauge i was reading and
> i have the concept of adjusting the valves. What confuses me is
> the trurning of the cam shaft. What is a breaker bar? Also do i
> have to replace the gasket?



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