Valve clearance question
 

I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
rocker arm to eliminate slack.

Should I have done this?

Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
<SNIP>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
------------------------------------

Shift WAY later, read the owner's manual about how high you can rev the
Honda. It's often more efficient (and way easier on the engine) to use a
lower gear and rev the engine up.

My CR-V manual says I can go 90 Mph (145 Km/Hr) before shifting out of
D3 to D4 (DRIVE). The neighbors would notice.

'Curly'

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
<SNIP>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
------------------------------------

Shift WAY later, read the owner's manual about how high you can rev the
Honda. It's often more efficient (and way easier on the engine) to use a
lower gear and rev the engine up.

My CR-V manual says I can go 90 Mph (145 Km/Hr) before shifting out of
D3 to D4 (DRIVE). The neighbors would notice.

'Curly'

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
<SNIP>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
------------------------------------

Shift WAY later, read the owner's manual about how high you can rev the
Honda. It's often more efficient (and way easier on the engine) to use a
lower gear and rev the engine up.

My CR-V manual says I can go 90 Mph (145 Km/Hr) before shifting out of
D3 to D4 (DRIVE). The neighbors would notice.

'Curly'

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
<SNIP>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
------------------------------------

Shift WAY later, read the owner's manual about how high you can rev the
Honda. It's often more efficient (and way easier on the engine) to use a
lower gear and rev the engine up.

My CR-V manual says I can go 90 Mph (145 Km/Hr) before shifting out of
D3 to D4 (DRIVE). The neighbors would notice.

'Curly'

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.
>
> Should I have done this?

No.

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.
>
> Should I have done this?

No.

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.
>
> Should I have done this?

No.

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.
>
> Should I have done this?

No.

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in news:1162406136.858171.23130
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.


WRONG! Just position the cam lobes properly (critical!) then slide the
gauge in place. The fit should be just snug enough that you can feel a
touch of drag when you slide it between the cam lobe and follower.

Warning: Some of the valves are placed such that it's VERY easy to mis-
position the feeler and think the clearance is too tight. Give each one
a good hard shove (short of bending the feeler) to make certain it
actually won't go and isn't just twisted.

I like to use two gauges, a "go" and a "no go". Say tolerances are
..006" to .008". I'd use a .006" as a "go" and a .008" as a "no go". This
means my final tolerances are necessarily between .006 and .008, and
thus correct.

BTW, some feeler gauge sets are cheaply made and have a burr around the
edges. You can feel this burr with your fingernail. If such exists on
your set, gently file or sand it off.



>
> Should I have done this?
>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
>


Does this "clatter" happen all the time, or only for the first few
seconds on startup?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in news:1162406136.858171.23130
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.


WRONG! Just position the cam lobes properly (critical!) then slide the
gauge in place. The fit should be just snug enough that you can feel a
touch of drag when you slide it between the cam lobe and follower.

Warning: Some of the valves are placed such that it's VERY easy to mis-
position the feeler and think the clearance is too tight. Give each one
a good hard shove (short of bending the feeler) to make certain it
actually won't go and isn't just twisted.

I like to use two gauges, a "go" and a "no go". Say tolerances are
..006" to .008". I'd use a .006" as a "go" and a .008" as a "no go". This
means my final tolerances are necessarily between .006 and .008, and
thus correct.

BTW, some feeler gauge sets are cheaply made and have a burr around the
edges. You can feel this burr with your fingernail. If such exists on
your set, gently file or sand it off.



>
> Should I have done this?
>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
>


Does this "clatter" happen all the time, or only for the first few
seconds on startup?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in news:1162406136.858171.23130
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.


WRONG! Just position the cam lobes properly (critical!) then slide the
gauge in place. The fit should be just snug enough that you can feel a
touch of drag when you slide it between the cam lobe and follower.

Warning: Some of the valves are placed such that it's VERY easy to mis-
position the feeler and think the clearance is too tight. Give each one
a good hard shove (short of bending the feeler) to make certain it
actually won't go and isn't just twisted.

I like to use two gauges, a "go" and a "no go". Say tolerances are
..006" to .008". I'd use a .006" as a "go" and a .008" as a "no go". This
means my final tolerances are necessarily between .006 and .008, and
thus correct.

BTW, some feeler gauge sets are cheaply made and have a burr around the
edges. You can feel this burr with your fingernail. If such exists on
your set, gently file or sand it off.



>
> Should I have done this?
>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
>


Does this "clatter" happen all the time, or only for the first few
seconds on startup?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Valve clearance question
 

bug67ph@gmail.com wrote in news:1162406136.858171.23130
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

> I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> rocker arm to eliminate slack.


WRONG! Just position the cam lobes properly (critical!) then slide the
gauge in place. The fit should be just snug enough that you can feel a
touch of drag when you slide it between the cam lobe and follower.

Warning: Some of the valves are placed such that it's VERY easy to mis-
position the feeler and think the clearance is too tight. Give each one
a good hard shove (short of bending the feeler) to make certain it
actually won't go and isn't just twisted.

I like to use two gauges, a "go" and a "no go". Say tolerances are
..006" to .008". I'd use a .006" as a "go" and a .008" as a "no go". This
means my final tolerances are necessarily between .006 and .008, and
thus correct.

BTW, some feeler gauge sets are cheaply made and have a burr around the
edges. You can feel this burr with your fingernail. If such exists on
your set, gently file or sand it off.



>
> Should I have done this?
>
> Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?
>


Does this "clatter" happen all the time, or only for the first few
seconds on startup?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Valve clearance question
 

Can somebody please give me a some hint as to why valve adjustment is
necessary. Thanks a lot. My 1996 civic seems alright at this moment.
But as the winter sets in, I only notice "tick tick" sound in the
morning for 1 or 1/2 minutes when the engine is cold. I was wondering
if this is something to do with valve adjustment. It's got 220K km and
I don't know its service history. Its been with me for 1 year, from
210Kkm. Its runs good, idles good and no unwanted sound coming from the
engine either.





On Nov 1, 7:22 pm, "TeGGeR®" <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> bug6...@gmail.com wrote in news:1162406136.858171.23130
> @m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> > yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> > while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> > rocker arm to eliminate slack.WRONG! Just position the cam lobes properly (critical!) then slide the
> gauge in place. The fit should be just snug enough that you can feel a
> touch of drag when you slide it between the cam lobe and follower.
>
> Warning: Some of the valves are placed such that it's VERY easy to mis-
> position the feeler and think the clearance is too tight. Give each one
> a good hard shove (short of bending the feeler) to make certain it
> actually won't go and isn't just twisted.
>
> I like to use two gauges, a "go" and a "no go". Say tolerances are
> .006" to .008". I'd use a .006" as a "go" and a .008" as a "no go". This
> means my final tolerances are necessarily between .006 and .008, and
> thus correct.
>
> BTW, some feeler gauge sets are cheaply made and have a burr around the
> edges. You can feel this burr with your fingernail. If such exists on
> your set, gently file or sand it off.
>
>
>
> > Should I have done this?
>
> > Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?Does this "clatter"happen all the time, or only for the first few
> seconds on startup?
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Valve clearance question
 

Can somebody please give me a some hint as to why valve adjustment is
necessary. Thanks a lot. My 1996 civic seems alright at this moment.
But as the winter sets in, I only notice "tick tick" sound in the
morning for 1 or 1/2 minutes when the engine is cold. I was wondering
if this is something to do with valve adjustment. It's got 220K km and
I don't know its service history. Its been with me for 1 year, from
210Kkm. Its runs good, idles good and no unwanted sound coming from the
engine either.





On Nov 1, 7:22 pm, "TeGGeR®" <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> bug6...@gmail.com wrote in news:1162406136.858171.23130
> @m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I adjusted the valve clearances on a '95 Civic, 1.6L DOHC non-vtec,
> > yesterday, with good results. However I read on an older thread that,
> > while measuring the gap, you should push down on the other end of the
> > rocker arm to eliminate slack.WRONG! Just position the cam lobes properly (critical!) then slide the
> gauge in place. The fit should be just snug enough that you can feel a
> touch of drag when you slide it between the cam lobe and follower.
>
> Warning: Some of the valves are placed such that it's VERY easy to mis-
> position the feeler and think the clearance is too tight. Give each one
> a good hard shove (short of bending the feeler) to make certain it
> actually won't go and isn't just twisted.
>
> I like to use two gauges, a "go" and a "no go". Say tolerances are
> .006" to .008". I'd use a .006" as a "go" and a .008" as a "no go". This
> means my final tolerances are necessarily between .006 and .008, and
> thus correct.
>
> BTW, some feeler gauge sets are cheaply made and have a burr around the
> edges. You can feel this burr with your fingernail. If such exists on
> your set, gently file or sand it off.
>
>
>
> > Should I have done this?
>
> > Any other things to adjust to reduce engine clatter?Does this "clatter"happen all the time, or only for the first few
> seconds on startup?
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/