Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the
cam. Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds. Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. -- Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/Honda-Valv...ict112533.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=529131 |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
"Qjonny" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message news:1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@aut oforumz.com... > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn't even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. I would drill a hole into the centre of the broken piece of the bolt, and use an extractor to remove the piece. Use some oil to help free the piece. Brian |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
"Qjonny" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message news:1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@aut oforumz.com... > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn't even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. I would drill a hole into the centre of the broken piece of the bolt, and use an extractor to remove the piece. Use some oil to help free the piece. Brian |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
In article <1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@autofor umz.com>,
Qjonny <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote: > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. Hello, I agree with what Brian told you. If you end up needing a new valve cover--visit the largest junk yard in your area. Most of the larger junk yards are now on a special database which simply means that all of them are linked together. If they don't have a valve cover for your vehicle--they can order one from one of the other junk yards. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
In article <1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@autofor umz.com>,
Qjonny <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote: > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. Hello, I agree with what Brian told you. If you end up needing a new valve cover--visit the largest junk yard in your area. Most of the larger junk yards are now on a special database which simply means that all of them are linked together. If they don't have a valve cover for your vehicle--they can order one from one of the other junk yards. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
This happened on TWO of the valve cover bolts on
my 98 civic. Really annoying. First of all, take the valve cover off and see if there is any part of the stud showing that you might be able to grab onto with a plyer or something. Short of getting lucky that way, MAKE SURE you put rags or some sort of cover over the valve train to make sure no filings make it into your valves and oil. We got an 'Easy-Out' from the hardware store. You put this bit into your cordless drill, and apply as much pressure in reverse as possible at a 90 degree angle to the broken stud of the bolt. Eventually, the bit grabs the stud, and it backs out. It took about 2 minutes of constant pressure and spinning to get one of them out. Any questions, feel free to email me directly loewent at gmail dot com |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
This happened on TWO of the valve cover bolts on
my 98 civic. Really annoying. First of all, take the valve cover off and see if there is any part of the stud showing that you might be able to grab onto with a plyer or something. Short of getting lucky that way, MAKE SURE you put rags or some sort of cover over the valve train to make sure no filings make it into your valves and oil. We got an 'Easy-Out' from the hardware store. You put this bit into your cordless drill, and apply as much pressure in reverse as possible at a 90 degree angle to the broken stud of the bolt. Eventually, the bit grabs the stud, and it backs out. It took about 2 minutes of constant pressure and spinning to get one of them out. Any questions, feel free to email me directly loewent at gmail dot com |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
PS, by the way, YES, as a temporary measure,
you can RTV the hole in the valve cover, and the rest should hold it in place well enough to keep it from leaking. |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
PS, by the way, YES, as a temporary measure,
you can RTV the hole in the valve cover, and the rest should hold it in place well enough to keep it from leaking. |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
Qjonny wrote:
> First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. As others have mentioned lubrication along with drilling and using an easy out works well if you have the room. One of the best oils I have found for seized parts is call "Kroil". I would highly recommend it. |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
Qjonny wrote:
> First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. As others have mentioned lubrication along with drilling and using an easy out works well if you have the room. One of the best oils I have found for seized parts is call "Kroil". I would highly recommend it. |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
"Qjonny" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@aut oforumz.com... > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn't even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. > Since it broke while tightening, it may not be very tight at all (it probably broke before it bottomed). Try teasing it loose with a scribe or punch, or chuck up a small piece of dowel in a reversible drill. If you can get it out enough to grab with pliers you're home free. The problem I've had with extractors is they like to walk to the edge and bugger up the threads in the hole. Otherwise they are a godsend. Mike |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
"Qjonny" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@aut oforumz.com... > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn't even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. > Since it broke while tightening, it may not be very tight at all (it probably broke before it bottomed). Try teasing it loose with a scribe or punch, or chuck up a small piece of dowel in a reversible drill. If you can get it out enough to grab with pliers you're home free. The problem I've had with extractors is they like to walk to the edge and bugger up the threads in the hole. Otherwise they are a godsend. Mike |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
How tight was it going in. Was it crossthreaded? If so you may have to drill
it and install a Helicoil... "Qjonny" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message news:1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@aut oforumz.com... > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. > > -- > Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request > Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards > Topic URL: > http://www.autoforumz.com/Honda-Valv...ict112533.html > Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: > http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=529131 |
Re: Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice
How tight was it going in. Was it crossthreaded? If so you may have to drill
it and install a Helicoil... "Qjonny" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message news:1_529131_c7f3beaf2076c3b2d0d3a736c29356c7@aut oforumz.com... > First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the > cam. > > Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right > corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds. > Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck > inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out? > 2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the > remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What > trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water > pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens. > > -- > Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request > Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards > Topic URL: > http://www.autoforumz.com/Honda-Valv...ict112533.html > Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: > http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=529131 |
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