Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
06-28-2005, 11:50 AM
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Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
Help!
vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
Help!
06-28-2005, 12:51 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
"Ron Jones" <ronjones@insight.rr.com> wrote in
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> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
> ideas!
>
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
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news:5lewe.25795$IL3.7598@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
> ideas!
>
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
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06-28-2005, 12:51 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
"Ron Jones" <ronjones@insight.rr.com> wrote in
news:5lewe.25795$IL3.7598@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
> ideas!
>
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
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news:5lewe.25795$IL3.7598@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
> ideas!
>
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
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06-28-2005, 06:31 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
What FAQ?. You can tell I'm new here!
Thanks, that really, really helps
ron
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Ron Jones" <ronjones@insight.rr.com> wrote in
> news:5lewe.25795$IL3.7598@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
>
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
>> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
>> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
>> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
>> ideas!
>>
>
> http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Thanks, that really, really helps
ron
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> "Ron Jones" <ronjones@insight.rr.com> wrote in
> news:5lewe.25795$IL3.7598@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
>
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
>> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
>> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
>> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
>> ideas!
>>
>
> http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
>
> --
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06-28-2005, 06:31 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
What FAQ?. You can tell I'm new here!
Thanks, that really, really helps
ron
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns968382CAB4D7Etegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Ron Jones" <ronjones@insight.rr.com> wrote in
> news:5lewe.25795$IL3.7598@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
>
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
>> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
>> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
>> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
>> ideas!
>>
>
> http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
Thanks, that really, really helps
ron
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Ron Jones" <ronjones@insight.rr.com> wrote in
> news:5lewe.25795$IL3.7598@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
>
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without
>> applying the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned.
>> However, I checked all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the
>> worst is within a couple of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of
>> ideas!
>>
>
> http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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06-28-2005, 10:37 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
Ron Jones wrote:
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
re-torque the front wheels. re-tighten with 2 or even 3 stage torque,
1324-1324 for 4 lug or 13524-13524 for 5 lug. try and have each wheel
off the ground for stage 1. do NOT allow a garage to use an air tool.
ever. google this group for explanation.
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
re-torque the front wheels. re-tighten with 2 or even 3 stage torque,
1324-1324 for 4 lug or 13524-13524 for 5 lug. try and have each wheel
off the ground for stage 1. do NOT allow a garage to use an air tool.
ever. google this group for explanation.
06-28-2005, 10:37 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
Ron Jones wrote:
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
re-torque the front wheels. re-tighten with 2 or even 3 stage torque,
1324-1324 for 4 lug or 13524-13524 for 5 lug. try and have each wheel
off the ground for stage 1. do NOT allow a garage to use an air tool.
ever. google this group for explanation.
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
re-torque the front wheels. re-tighten with 2 or even 3 stage torque,
1324-1324 for 4 lug or 13524-13524 for 5 lug. try and have each wheel
off the ground for stage 1. do NOT allow a garage to use an air tool.
ever. google this group for explanation.
07-02-2005, 01:07 AM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
Ron Jones wrote:
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be
checking the disk, not the wheel.
My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed
warped rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within
100 miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a
torque wrench every time they were off the car.
Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days
.... boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
John
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be
checking the disk, not the wheel.
My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed
warped rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within
100 miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a
torque wrench every time they were off the car.
Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days
.... boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
John
07-02-2005, 01:07 AM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
Ron Jones wrote:
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be
checking the disk, not the wheel.
My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed
warped rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within
100 miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a
torque wrench every time they were off the car.
Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days
.... boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
John
> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying the
> brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked all 4
> wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple of
> thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>
> Help!
>
>
Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be
checking the disk, not the wheel.
My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed
warped rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within
100 miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a
torque wrench every time they were off the car.
Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days
.... boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
John
07-05-2005, 04:36 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
TeGGeR's url
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
tells the whole story! .
The runout spec (at the rotor) for the TL is a generous .004" and mine were
within that. Replacing the front rotors fixed it though. I just hope it
stays fixed.
rj
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gipxe.6494$Fn4.4@trnddc06...
> Ron Jones wrote:
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying
>> the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked
>> all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple
>> of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>>
>> Help!
>
> Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be checking
> the disk, not the wheel.
>
> My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed warped
> rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within 100
> miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a torque
> wrench every time they were off the car.
>
> Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
> smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days ...
> boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
>
> In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
> rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
> 12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
>
> John
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
tells the whole story! .
The runout spec (at the rotor) for the TL is a generous .004" and mine were
within that. Replacing the front rotors fixed it though. I just hope it
stays fixed.
rj
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gipxe.6494$Fn4.4@trnddc06...
> Ron Jones wrote:
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying
>> the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked
>> all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple
>> of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>>
>> Help!
>
> Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be checking
> the disk, not the wheel.
>
> My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed warped
> rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within 100
> miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a torque
> wrench every time they were off the car.
>
> Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
> smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days ...
> boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
>
> In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
> rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
> 12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
>
> John
07-05-2005, 04:36 PM
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Re: Vibration felt when applying brakes, 2000 TL
TeGGeR's url
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
tells the whole story! .
The runout spec (at the rotor) for the TL is a generous .004" and mine were
within that. Replacing the front rotors fixed it though. I just hope it
stays fixed.
rj
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gipxe.6494$Fn4.4@trnddc06...
> Ron Jones wrote:
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying
>> the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked
>> all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple
>> of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>>
>> Help!
>
> Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be checking
> the disk, not the wheel.
>
> My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed warped
> rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within 100
> miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a torque
> wrench every time they were off the car.
>
> Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
> smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days ...
> boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
>
> In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
> rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
> 12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
>
> John
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
tells the whole story! .
The runout spec (at the rotor) for the TL is a generous .004" and mine were
within that. Replacing the front rotors fixed it though. I just hope it
stays fixed.
rj
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gipxe.6494$Fn4.4@trnddc06...
> Ron Jones wrote:
>> When I apply the brakes on my TL especially at highway speeds I get
>> vibration and some steering wheel shake. Doesn't happen without applying
>> the brakes. Classic sign of warped rotors I reasoned. However, I checked
>> all 4 wheels with a run-out gauge and even the worst is within a couple
>> of thousands. Pads are OK. Now I'm out of ideas!
>>
>> Help!
>
> Did you check runout on the disk or on the wheel? You need to be checking
> the disk, not the wheel.
>
> My bet is that you need new front rotors. My '03 Accord developed warped
> rotors. I changed the pads and had the rotors turned, and within 100
> miles the vibration was back. I hand tighten the wheels with a torque
> wrench every time they were off the car.
>
> Now with new Brembo stock configuration rotors my brakes are once again
> smooth. Just did 1,000 miles of mountain driving in the past 10 days ...
> boy was it nice to have proper brakes again.
>
> In the case of my vehicle there was some kind of a factory defect in the
> rotors which was causing them to warp rapidly. Dealer said that after
> 12,000 miles they would not do anything about it under warranty.
>
> John
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