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unkadunk 10-29-2007 12:45 PM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
"Matthew" <thew60_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PIRUi.4$J25.3@newsfe12.lga:

> My condolences on your loss as well.
>
> Regarding the wax question, I have a '98 Accord EXV6 "Heather Mist
> Metallic" 123K miles on it. I have used Meguiars almost exclusively,
> and in spite of it the parts of the roof, trunk, and now hood have
> faded to primer. I have used the Paint restorer 2-3 time in the life
> of the car and the cleaner/wax one a year otherwise regular wax. I'm
> wondering if the wax products contributed to this problem, however I
> doubt it as the sides of the car are pristine. Reminds me of the old
> silver card the GM used to make. I just did not expect that from
> Honda.
>
> I still use the Meguiars on my 2005 Lexus and it still looks showroom
> new.
>
> Matt
>


I sounds suspiciously like Mr. Sun has done his thing on your paint since
the sides are fine. Does the car sit outside most of the time? (in the
sun)

unkadunk 10-29-2007 12:45 PM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
"Matthew" <thew60_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PIRUi.4$J25.3@newsfe12.lga:

> My condolences on your loss as well.
>
> Regarding the wax question, I have a '98 Accord EXV6 "Heather Mist
> Metallic" 123K miles on it. I have used Meguiars almost exclusively,
> and in spite of it the parts of the roof, trunk, and now hood have
> faded to primer. I have used the Paint restorer 2-3 time in the life
> of the car and the cleaner/wax one a year otherwise regular wax. I'm
> wondering if the wax products contributed to this problem, however I
> doubt it as the sides of the car are pristine. Reminds me of the old
> silver card the GM used to make. I just did not expect that from
> Honda.
>
> I still use the Meguiars on my 2005 Lexus and it still looks showroom
> new.
>
> Matt
>


I sounds suspiciously like Mr. Sun has done his thing on your paint since
the sides are fine. Does the car sit outside most of the time? (in the
sun)

Matthew 10-29-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
The car was garaged for the first 3 years of its life, then delegated to the
driveway for the last 6 years. I certainly could be the sun. I just thought
with diligent care, "modern" paint on cars should not fade like a '76 Silver
Chevy.
I had a 1998 Accord LX in Graphite Gray that spent a fair amount of time
garaged, but plenty of time outdoors as well. Sold it when I got the 1998.
It had a mere 121k miles on it and the paint looked as new as the day I
bought it. The was "pre Meguiars" I used Gliptone products on that one.



"unkadunk" <unkadunk@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99D8778D823A8unkadunknotherecom@216.196.97 .136...
> "Matthew" <thew60_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:PIRUi.4$J25.3@newsfe12.lga:
>
>> My condolences on your loss as well.
>>
>> Regarding the wax question, I have a '98 Accord EXV6 "Heather Mist
>> Metallic" 123K miles on it. I have used Meguiars almost exclusively,
>> and in spite of it the parts of the roof, trunk, and now hood have
>> faded to primer. I have used the Paint restorer 2-3 time in the life
>> of the car and the cleaner/wax one a year otherwise regular wax. I'm
>> wondering if the wax products contributed to this problem, however I
>> doubt it as the sides of the car are pristine. Reminds me of the old
>> silver card the GM used to make. I just did not expect that from
>> Honda.
>>
>> I still use the Meguiars on my 2005 Lexus and it still looks showroom
>> new.
>>
>> Matt
>>

>
> I sounds suspiciously like Mr. Sun has done his thing on your paint since
> the sides are fine. Does the car sit outside most of the time? (in the
> sun)
>



Matthew 10-29-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
The car was garaged for the first 3 years of its life, then delegated to the
driveway for the last 6 years. I certainly could be the sun. I just thought
with diligent care, "modern" paint on cars should not fade like a '76 Silver
Chevy.
I had a 1998 Accord LX in Graphite Gray that spent a fair amount of time
garaged, but plenty of time outdoors as well. Sold it when I got the 1998.
It had a mere 121k miles on it and the paint looked as new as the day I
bought it. The was "pre Meguiars" I used Gliptone products on that one.



"unkadunk" <unkadunk@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99D8778D823A8unkadunknotherecom@216.196.97 .136...
> "Matthew" <thew60_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:PIRUi.4$J25.3@newsfe12.lga:
>
>> My condolences on your loss as well.
>>
>> Regarding the wax question, I have a '98 Accord EXV6 "Heather Mist
>> Metallic" 123K miles on it. I have used Meguiars almost exclusively,
>> and in spite of it the parts of the roof, trunk, and now hood have
>> faded to primer. I have used the Paint restorer 2-3 time in the life
>> of the car and the cleaner/wax one a year otherwise regular wax. I'm
>> wondering if the wax products contributed to this problem, however I
>> doubt it as the sides of the car are pristine. Reminds me of the old
>> silver card the GM used to make. I just did not expect that from
>> Honda.
>>
>> I still use the Meguiars on my 2005 Lexus and it still looks showroom
>> new.
>>
>> Matt
>>

>
> I sounds suspiciously like Mr. Sun has done his thing on your paint since
> the sides are fine. Does the car sit outside most of the time? (in the
> sun)
>



unkadunk 10-30-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
"Matthew" <thew60_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1ewVi.886$2T3.779@newsfe12.lga:

> The car was garaged for the first 3 years of its life, then delegated
> to the driveway for the last 6 years. I certainly could be the sun. I
> just thought with diligent care, "modern" paint on cars should not
> fade like a '76 Silver Chevy.
> I had a 1998 Accord LX in Graphite Gray that spent a fair amount of
> time garaged, but plenty of time outdoors as well. Sold it when I got
> the 1998. It had a mere 121k miles on it and the paint looked as new
> as the day I bought it. The was "pre Meguiars" I used Gliptone
> products on that one.
>


Certainly could be the paint itself, a bad batch, or that particular
color paint and Meguiars, or both and the sun. That color might have come
from a different vendor. Heck even the clearcoat on top might have been
defective. Who knows. You did your best. I've been using Nu Finish for
almost forever on my cars after reading how well it did in a CR test way
way back. And it lasts far longer than the pastes I had been using
(Classic etc.). But whether it's actually better? ???

Since you had to polish the paint out during that time obviously it was
deteriorating regardless of your efforts, and the wax wasn't helping. (or
it was some and kept it from being far worse) I haven't polished a car
since, oh, the 70's, and most of our cars we keep 8 to 10 years. Though
I still have the little tin of polishing compound in the garage, I'm sure
it's totally dried out now.

I'd bet it was that specific color of paint on that model year, and for
whatever reason, it was more susceptible to oxidizing regardless of any
protection. You might try doing a test with Meguiars on one half of the
trunk or hood, another brand on the other half for a few months. See
which one beads the longest,etc. It's super for show and tell, but out
in the real world where you want hard coat against the elements and
longevity, maybe not?




unkadunk 10-30-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
"Matthew" <thew60_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1ewVi.886$2T3.779@newsfe12.lga:

> The car was garaged for the first 3 years of its life, then delegated
> to the driveway for the last 6 years. I certainly could be the sun. I
> just thought with diligent care, "modern" paint on cars should not
> fade like a '76 Silver Chevy.
> I had a 1998 Accord LX in Graphite Gray that spent a fair amount of
> time garaged, but plenty of time outdoors as well. Sold it when I got
> the 1998. It had a mere 121k miles on it and the paint looked as new
> as the day I bought it. The was "pre Meguiars" I used Gliptone
> products on that one.
>


Certainly could be the paint itself, a bad batch, or that particular
color paint and Meguiars, or both and the sun. That color might have come
from a different vendor. Heck even the clearcoat on top might have been
defective. Who knows. You did your best. I've been using Nu Finish for
almost forever on my cars after reading how well it did in a CR test way
way back. And it lasts far longer than the pastes I had been using
(Classic etc.). But whether it's actually better? ???

Since you had to polish the paint out during that time obviously it was
deteriorating regardless of your efforts, and the wax wasn't helping. (or
it was some and kept it from being far worse) I haven't polished a car
since, oh, the 70's, and most of our cars we keep 8 to 10 years. Though
I still have the little tin of polishing compound in the garage, I'm sure
it's totally dried out now.

I'd bet it was that specific color of paint on that model year, and for
whatever reason, it was more susceptible to oxidizing regardless of any
protection. You might try doing a test with Meguiars on one half of the
trunk or hood, another brand on the other half for a few months. See
which one beads the longest,etc. It's super for show and tell, but out
in the real world where you want hard coat against the elements and
longevity, maybe not?




ACAR 10-31-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
On Oct 24, 10:42 pm, "Randy and Michelle" <rmd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have a 2007 CRV (Silver). A friend of mine recommended Eagle Nanowax.
> However, it seems like the most popular waxes are made by Mcguiars. Any
> opinions?
>
> Thanks
> Randy


The trick is to use products that won't harm the existing clear coat.
Clay-bar stains away but steer clear of "cleaner" waxes. There are
some expensive products out there that contain abrasives so be
careful.

Several layers of wax are really needed to do a complete job. I put 4
layers of Nu Finish onto my mother's Acura TL and the rain literally
rolls off the car at moderate speeds. I used Collinite Fleetwax on my
Corvette, 3 layers, with similar results. IMHO, there are lots of
decent products on the market but none will last anywhere near as long
as advertised. Get used to washing/waxing if your car's appearance is
important to you. Nu Finish's huge advantage is being able to apply it
in full sun. Unless you have a show car, that's the stuff I recommend
(just don't believe it's a once/year deal) because it's easy and fast
to use, pretty cheap and readily available. (Collinite is a superior
product but it's hard to find and not as easy to use.)

Mcguiars interior preserative goes a good job inside the car and will
remove wax white streaks from black exterior plastic. This stuff will
also keep door seals from freezing to the door frame.

Happy buffing.


ACAR 10-31-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Wax-What kind?
 
On Oct 24, 10:42 pm, "Randy and Michelle" <rmd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have a 2007 CRV (Silver). A friend of mine recommended Eagle Nanowax.
> However, it seems like the most popular waxes are made by Mcguiars. Any
> opinions?
>
> Thanks
> Randy


The trick is to use products that won't harm the existing clear coat.
Clay-bar stains away but steer clear of "cleaner" waxes. There are
some expensive products out there that contain abrasives so be
careful.

Several layers of wax are really needed to do a complete job. I put 4
layers of Nu Finish onto my mother's Acura TL and the rain literally
rolls off the car at moderate speeds. I used Collinite Fleetwax on my
Corvette, 3 layers, with similar results. IMHO, there are lots of
decent products on the market but none will last anywhere near as long
as advertised. Get used to washing/waxing if your car's appearance is
important to you. Nu Finish's huge advantage is being able to apply it
in full sun. Unless you have a show car, that's the stuff I recommend
(just don't believe it's a once/year deal) because it's easy and fast
to use, pretty cheap and readily available. (Collinite is a superior
product but it's hard to find and not as easy to use.)

Mcguiars interior preserative goes a good job inside the car and will
remove wax white streaks from black exterior plastic. This stuff will
also keep door seals from freezing to the door frame.

Happy buffing.



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