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What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
My partner has recently had a Honda car serviced under a 2-year free
service deal on an ex-demo (3,500m) car she bought 18 months ago. A couple of days ago we heard a knocking sound seeming to come from the rear of the car but with no other symptoms affecting the driving. We are both as good as clueless with cars so other than making sure there wasn't a stone lodged in any of the tyres it was decided to take the car into a main agent this morning to get the problem dealt with. As it turns out, we have moved since the car purchase and preferred to take the car into a local Honda dealer rather than the more distant dealer who carried out the last service. As part of that service, 2 new front tyres were advised and fitted. Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few weeks to cover 500 miles or so. Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) but feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure exactly what. Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
In article <ullll55pfb6n5b38fg5fghoqarp55u0jjh@4ax.com>, bristle wrote:
> Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) but > feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure > exactly what. Were you damaged in any way? If so, you deserve to be made whole. Otherwise, no, there's no recourse for your to pursue. And simply don't go back to that place. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
bristle wrote:
<snippage> > Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) > speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out > the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel > had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she > was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few > weeks to cover 500 miles or so. > > Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? How could you not notice three missing lug nuts? Don't want to venture whether you've ever checked tire pressures. What else don't you know? |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
"News" <News@Groups.Name> wrote in message news:lYmdnbcEOZrHZcfWnZ2dnUVZ_jFi4p2d@speakeasy.ne t... > bristle wrote: > > <snippage> > >> Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) >> speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out >> the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel >> had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she >> was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few >> weeks to cover 500 miles or so. >> >> Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? > > How could you not notice three missing lug nuts? > > Don't want to venture whether you've ever checked tire pressures. > > What else don't you know? Boy I agree! The statement "with no other symptoms affecting the driving" just doesn't hold up - it should have driven like a wheel was about to fall off! Shaky steering at best, pulling and difficulties making turns more than likely! And visually it should have been fairly obvious the wheel could not have even looked straight. I guess once the assumption was made that the noise was coming from the rear, no thought was given to a more complete visual inspection. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On 01/23/2010 03:18 AM, bristle wrote:
> My partner has recently had a Honda car serviced under a 2-year free > service deal on an ex-demo (3,500m) car she bought 18 months ago. > > A couple of days ago we heard a knocking sound seeming to come from > the rear of the car but with no other symptoms affecting the driving. > We are both as good as clueless with cars so other than making sure > there wasn't a stone lodged in any of the tyres it was decided to take > the car into a main agent this morning to get the problem dealt with. > > As it turns out, we have moved since the car purchase and preferred to > take the car into a local Honda dealer rather than the more distant > dealer who carried out the last service. As part of that service, 2 > new front tyres were advised and fitted. > > Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) > speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out > the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel > had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she > was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few > weeks to cover 500 miles or so. > > Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) but > feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure > exactly what. > > Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? legally, you should check the service order you signed - it'll almost certainly have a disclaimer on there about it being your responsibility to check lug nut tightness after a few miles. if you signed that order and didn't act accordingly, you're going to have a hard time. additionally, there is a good chance the wheel stud that held was over-stressed and is now likely to fatigue. there will almost certainly be visible damage also. even though they'll be able to defend themselves legally, you could nevertheless go back and ask this place to replace the studs because of the damage caused. if you ask reasonably and promise to take no further action, they probably will. then never go back. and buy yourself a cheapo torque wrench and check this stuff each time you go in for wheel service. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On 1/23/10 5:18 AM, in article ullll55pfb6n5b38fg5fghoqarp55u0jjh@4ax.com,
"bristle" <bristle> wrote: > My partner has recently had a Honda car serviced under a 2-year free > service deal on an ex-demo (3,500m) car she bought 18 months ago. > > A couple of days ago we heard a knocking sound seeming to come from > the rear of the car but with no other symptoms affecting the driving. > We are both as good as clueless with cars so other than making sure > there wasn't a stone lodged in any of the tyres it was decided to take > the car into a main agent this morning to get the problem dealt with. > > As it turns out, we have moved since the car purchase and preferred to > take the car into a local Honda dealer rather than the more distant > dealer who carried out the last service. As part of that service, 2 > new front tyres were advised and fitted. > > Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) > speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out > the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel > had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she > was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few > weeks to cover 500 miles or so. > > Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) but > feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure > exactly what. > > Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? > > > This happened to me once with an Oldsmobile. The service guy loosely installed the lug nuts, then got distracted with something else and never came back with the torque wrench to finish the job. It didn't handle any differently from normal until about two miles down the road when the handling got loose and the knocking started pretty much at the same time. I didn't lose any but in that short distance several of them were nearly all the way off. If there is any damage to the lugs you should be able to make the offending shop replace them & of course, they owe you the lost nuts. Other than that, you don't really have any recourse. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
"E. Meyer" <e.p.meyer@verizon.net> wrote in
news:C780BF7C.165C4%e.p.meyer@verizon.net: > On 1/23/10 5:18 AM, in article > ullll55pfb6n5b38fg5fghoqarp55u0jjh@4ax.com, "bristle" <bristle> wrote: > >> My partner has recently had a Honda car serviced under a 2-year free >> service deal on an ex-demo (3,500m) car she bought 18 months ago. >> >> A couple of days ago we heard a knocking sound seeming to come from >> the rear of the car but with no other symptoms affecting the driving. >> We are both as good as clueless with cars so other than making sure >> there wasn't a stone lodged in any of the tyres it was decided to >> take the car into a main agent this morning to get the problem dealt >> with. >> >> As it turns out, we have moved since the car purchase and preferred >> to take the car into a local Honda dealer rather than the more >> distant dealer who carried out the last service. As part of that >> service, 2 new front tyres were advised and fitted. >> >> Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) >> speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying >> out the service had obviously been careless since the offside front >> wheel had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that >> she was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last >> few weeks to cover 500 miles or so. >> >> Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) >> but feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure >> exactly what. >> >> Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? >> >> >> > This happened to me once with an Oldsmobile. The service guy loosely > installed the lug nuts, then got distracted with something else and > never came back with the torque wrench to finish the job. It didn't > handle any differently from normal until about two miles down the road > when the handling got loose and the knocking started pretty much at > the same time. I didn't lose any but in that short distance several > of them were nearly all the way off. > > If there is any damage to the lugs you should be able to make the > offending shop replace them & of course, they owe you the lost nuts. > Other than that, you don't really have any recourse. > > There seems to be some question as to -how long a period elapsed- between the "last service" and the loose and missing lug nuts. as another person posted, the owner/operator should have noticed missing lug nuts while doing tire pressure checks. Or when washing their car. Now,I once forgot to tighten lug nuts on a front wheel,and it was not long before I noticed they had loosened and the wheel was wobbling. Less than a day,in fact. I was lucky,I didn't lose any of the nuts,or damage the studs. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On 01/23/2010 03:38 PM, Jim Yanik wrote:
> "E. Meyer"<e.p.meyer@verizon.net> wrote in > news:C780BF7C.165C4%e.p.meyer@verizon.net: > >> On 1/23/10 5:18 AM, in article >> ullll55pfb6n5b38fg5fghoqarp55u0jjh@4ax.com, "bristle"<bristle> wrote: >> >>> My partner has recently had a Honda car serviced under a 2-year free >>> service deal on an ex-demo (3,500m) car she bought 18 months ago. >>> >>> A couple of days ago we heard a knocking sound seeming to come from >>> the rear of the car but with no other symptoms affecting the driving. >>> We are both as good as clueless with cars so other than making sure >>> there wasn't a stone lodged in any of the tyres it was decided to >>> take the car into a main agent this morning to get the problem dealt >>> with. >>> >>> As it turns out, we have moved since the car purchase and preferred >>> to take the car into a local Honda dealer rather than the more >>> distant dealer who carried out the last service. As part of that >>> service, 2 new front tyres were advised and fitted. >>> >>> Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) >>> speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying >>> out the service had obviously been careless since the offside front >>> wheel had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that >>> she was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last >>> few weeks to cover 500 miles or so. >>> >>> Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) >>> but feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure >>> exactly what. >>> >>> Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? >>> >>> >>> >> This happened to me once with an Oldsmobile. The service guy loosely >> installed the lug nuts, then got distracted with something else and >> never came back with the torque wrench to finish the job. It didn't >> handle any differently from normal until about two miles down the road >> when the handling got loose and the knocking started pretty much at >> the same time. I didn't lose any but in that short distance several >> of them were nearly all the way off. >> >> If there is any damage to the lugs you should be able to make the >> offending shop replace them& of course, they owe you the lost nuts. >> Other than that, you don't really have any recourse. >> >> > > There seems to be some question as to -how long a period elapsed- between > the "last service" and the loose and missing lug nuts. > > as another person posted, the owner/operator should have noticed missing > lug nuts while doing tire pressure checks. > > Or when washing their car. > > Now,I once forgot to tighten lug nuts on a front wheel,and it was not long > before I noticed they had loosened and the wheel was wobbling. > Less than a day,in fact. I was lucky,I didn't lose any of the nuts,or > damage the studs. > > you should have just cranked up the stereo, loaded up your friends, and driven to t.j. that would have gotten rid of a few for you. like the op. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:23:07 -0500, News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>bristle wrote: > ><snippage> > >> Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) >> speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out >> the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel >> had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she >> was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few >> weeks to cover 500 miles or so. >> >> Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? > >How could you not notice three missing lug nuts? My skill-set and diagnostic flair lie elsewhere. > >Don't want to venture whether you've ever checked tire pressures. And I wouldn't dream of asking if you're still beating your wife. > >What else don't you know? I don't know what you might have suffered in your formative years which could have so crippled you socially that you feel the need to elevate yourself by trying to belittle others. I don't know, and I don't care. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:30:43 -0500, "Mark" <mwl@nospam.com> wrote:
> >Boy I agree! The statement "with no other symptoms affecting the driving" >just doesn't hold up And yet it is exactly as I told you. In fact at 70mph on the motorway the knocking sound was barely audible over the road and engine noise. Drive was smooth. But if it helps you through your day to call me a liar then be my guest. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:00:12 -0600, "E. Meyer" <e.p.meyer@verizon.net>
wrote: >On 1/23/10 5:18 AM, in article ullll55pfb6n5b38fg5fghoqarp55u0jjh@4ax.com, >"bristle" <bristle> wrote: > >> My partner has recently had a Honda car serviced under a 2-year free >> service deal on an ex-demo (3,500m) car she bought 18 months ago. >> >> A couple of days ago we heard a knocking sound seeming to come from >> the rear of the car but with no other symptoms affecting the driving. >> We are both as good as clueless with cars so other than making sure >> there wasn't a stone lodged in any of the tyres it was decided to take >> the car into a main agent this morning to get the problem dealt with. >> >> As it turns out, we have moved since the car purchase and preferred to >> take the car into a local Honda dealer rather than the more distant >> dealer who carried out the last service. As part of that service, 2 >> new front tyres were advised and fitted. >> >> Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) >> speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out >> the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel >> had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she >> was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few >> weeks to cover 500 miles or so. >> >> Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) but >> feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure >> exactly what. >> >> Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? >> >> >> >This happened to me once with an Oldsmobile. The service guy loosely >installed the lug nuts, then got distracted with something else and never >came back with the torque wrench to finish the job. It didn't handle any >differently from normal until about two miles down the road when the >handling got loose and the knocking started pretty much at the same time. I >didn't lose any but in that short distance several of them were nearly all >the way off. > >If there is any damage to the lugs you should be able to make the offending >shop replace them & of course, they owe you the lost nuts. Other than that, >you don't really have any recourse. Beyond our initial excitement this is how we're seeing it too. There's no reported lug damage according to the 2nd garage. We've been advised by them to soundly upbraid the garage where the service was carried out. In their words, it would be a "serious disciplinary matter". We'll be going out of our way to embarrass them. Thanks for your civil and helpful response. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:38:48 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote: > >There seems to be some question as to -how long a period elapsed- between >the "last service" and the loose and missing lug nuts. as per my original post: "recently". > >as another person posted, the owner/operator should have noticed missing >lug nuts while doing tire pressure checks. No, the owner of the car would not have checked pressure in the brief interim. > >Or when washing their car. Maybe you've recently enjoyed fresh spring breezes? Here, slush rain and snow discouraged 'car washing'. > >Now,I once forgot to tighten lug nuts on a front wheel,and it was not long >before I noticed they had loosened and the wheel was wobbling. >Less than a day,in fact. I was lucky,I didn't lose any of the nuts,or >damage the studs. Yes, I imagine if she'd done the job herself (the tyre replacement) then she might have linked her own questionable competence to a rapid diagnosis. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
My thanks to all (save a couple of posts from the usual and expected
usenet dysfunctionals) for their consensus view. Adieu |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
bristle wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:23:07 -0500, News <News@Groups.Name> wrote: > >> bristle wrote: >> >> <snippage> >> >>> Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) >>> speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out >>> the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel >>> had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she >>> was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few >>> weeks to cover 500 miles or so. >>> >>> Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? >> How could you not notice three missing lug nuts? > > My skill-set and diagnostic flair lie elsewhere. >> Don't want to venture whether you've ever checked tire pressures. > > And I wouldn't dream of asking if you're still beating your wife. >> What else don't you know? > > I don't know what you might have suffered in your formative years > which could have so crippled you socially that you feel the need to > elevate yourself by trying to belittle others. > > I don't know, and I don't care. > > Have a great, shorter than necessary rest of your life, ignoramus. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On 1/24/2010 5:46 AM, bristle wrote:
> > My skill-set and diagnostic flair lie elsewhere. I hope that you have enough income to have a mechanic on staff full time. Your ignorance in regards to safety is going to kill someone (hopefully just yourself and not other innocent motorists or pedestrians). > And I wouldn't dream of asking if you're still beating your wife. Ignorance, I see was the correct word to use in regards to your outlook on life. > I don't know what you might have suffered in your formative years > which could have so crippled you socially that you feel the need to > elevate yourself by trying to belittle others. Pot, let me introduce you to the kettle. > I don't know, and I don't care. That, it appears is the main issue here. You should seek professional help with your issues. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
bristle wrote in news:ms5ol5tfi2kboo9cl29vi2668d1e1b546g@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:38:48 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> > wrote: > >> >>There seems to be some question as to -how long a period elapsed- >>between the "last service" and the loose and missing lug nuts. > > as per my original post: "recently". Still doesn't tell us HOW LONG. "recently" could be six months. >> >>as another person posted, the owner/operator should have noticed >>missing lug nuts while doing tire pressure checks. > > No, the owner of the car would not have checked pressure in the brief > interim. probably not at all. >> >>Or when washing their car. > > Maybe you've recently enjoyed fresh spring breezes? Here, slush rain > and snow discouraged 'car washing'. I live in Florida,but beefore that,grew up in BuffaloNY,and people still washed their cars in the winder,to remove some of the salt and dirt that accumulates on vehicles. The coin-op washes are very busy in the winter. > >> >>Now,I once forgot to tighten lug nuts on a front wheel,and it was not >>long before I noticed they had loosened and the wheel was wobbling. >>Less than a day,in fact. I was lucky,I didn't lose any of the nuts,or >>damage the studs. > > Yes, I imagine if she'd done the job herself (the tyre replacement) > then she might have linked her own questionable competence to a rapid > diagnosis. ooh,I must have touched a nerve.... hmm,"bristle" does seems appropo. > Actually,I just got out and looked. As for "questionable competence",all it takes is a distraction in the midst of a job. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
In article <Xns9D0A58BDF6D40jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44> ,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote: > I live in Florida,but beefore that,grew up in BuffaloNY,and people still > washed their cars in the winder I never wash my car in the winder. My winders are fer seein' through, not fer car-washing'. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-A481B9.09073824012010@news.eternal-september.org: > In article <Xns9D0A58BDF6D40jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44> , > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote: > >> I live in Florida,but beefore that,grew up in BuffaloNY,and people >> still washed their cars in the winder > > I never wash my car in the winder. My winders are fer seein' through, > not fer car-washing'. > yeah,I know I can't type.... -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On 01/24/2010 01:49 AM, bristle wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:00:12 -0600, "E. Meyer"<e.p.meyer@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> On 1/23/10 5:18 AM, in article ullll55pfb6n5b38fg5fghoqarp55u0jjh@4ax.com, >> "bristle"<bristle> wrote: >> >>> My partner has recently had a Honda car serviced under a 2-year free >>> service deal on an ex-demo (3,500m) car she bought 18 months ago. >>> >>> A couple of days ago we heard a knocking sound seeming to come from >>> the rear of the car but with no other symptoms affecting the driving. >>> We are both as good as clueless with cars so other than making sure >>> there wasn't a stone lodged in any of the tyres it was decided to take >>> the car into a main agent this morning to get the problem dealt with. >>> >>> As it turns out, we have moved since the car purchase and preferred to >>> take the car into a local Honda dealer rather than the more distant >>> dealer who carried out the last service. As part of that service, 2 >>> new front tyres were advised and fitted. >>> >>> Now just returned from the local Honda with the problem (knocking) >>> speedily sorted. They informed my partner that the agent carrying out >>> the service had obviously been careless since the offside front wheel >>> had only one nut in place, itself loose - 3 missing - and that she >>> was probably lucky to be alive having used the car over the last few >>> weeks to cover 500 miles or so. >>> >>> Obviously we are relieved to be alive (as are all her passengers!) but >>> feel that we should seek some sort of recourse while being unsure >>> exactly what. >>> >>> Would anyone have any ideas or insight to share on this? >>> >>> >>> >> This happened to me once with an Oldsmobile. The service guy loosely >> installed the lug nuts, then got distracted with something else and never >> came back with the torque wrench to finish the job. It didn't handle any >> differently from normal until about two miles down the road when the >> handling got loose and the knocking started pretty much at the same time. I >> didn't lose any but in that short distance several of them were nearly all >> the way off. >> >> If there is any damage to the lugs you should be able to make the offending >> shop replace them& of course, they owe you the lost nuts. Other than that, >> you don't really have any recourse. > > > Beyond our initial excitement this is how we're seeing it too. There's > no reported lug damage according to the 2nd garage. We've been > advised by them to soundly upbraid right, they're really going to take a verbal accusation seriously. because that's all you have at this point. > the garage where the service was > carried out. In their words, it would be a "serious disciplinary > matter". yeah, personal responsibility be damned! > > We'll be going out of our way to embarrass them. so you experience no embarrassment for abdicating your personal responsibility? you know, the one you legally signed for on the service order? > > > Thanks for your civil and helpful response. yet another idiot that won't take personal responsibility - we /really/ need more people like you in our society... |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:49 +0000, bristle wrote:
>My thanks to all (save a couple of posts from the usual and expected >usenet dysfunctionals) for their consensus view. > > >Adieu To be honest, somewhere between the posts you consider good and bad probably lies the truth. My take on this is, why go outa your way to get back at them or whatever? I think you should be grateful that you are still alive and perhaps got a positive experience(s) out of this thanks to them. The positives are 1- you (and passengers) are alive and unharmed, 2- now you know where to service your car, 3- now you know you (and partner) have a duty to learn a little about your car and check it periodically for simple things like low tire pressure, etc.. . Another poster(s) was correct that typically when they install tires, they will tell you to recheck the stud nuts after X number of miles. By the way, I once had my stud nuts loose too and as I recall the only symptom was the knocking noise. Luckily I only drove for 20 miles or so on local roads and discovered it perhaps like 1 or 2 hours later. Boy was I upset with myself knowing the danger I put myself (others) into. No excuse for that (whether directed at myself or you). The way I see it, if we drive a car, we have a responsibility to maintain our cars so that we don't endanger the lives around us or our passengers. I cannot defend ignorance for you or me. Just consider yourself lucky to be alive and unharmed. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
On 01/25/2010 04:51 AM, Observer wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:49 +0000, bristle wrote: > >> My thanks to all (save a couple of posts from the usual and expected >> usenet dysfunctionals) >> <snip> > if we drive a car, we have a responsibility to maintain > our cars so that we don't endanger the lives around us or our > passengers. indeed. but i think that's the bit our bristly friend didn't want to hear - why take personal responsibility when you can play the blame game? simply label people that tell you what you don't want to hear "dysfunctional" and walk away with nothing! |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
jim beam wrote:
> On 01/25/2010 04:51 AM, Observer wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:49 +0000, bristle wrote: >> >>> My thanks to all (save a couple of posts from the usual and expected >>> usenet dysfunctionals) >>> > > <snip> > >> if we drive a car, we have a responsibility to maintain >> our cars so that we don't endanger the lives around us or our >> passengers. > > indeed. but i think that's the bit our bristly friend didn't want to > hear - why take personal responsibility when you can play the blame > game? simply label people that tell you what you don't want to hear > "dysfunctional" and walk away with nothing! > > Bingo. And walk away, unfortunately as a perpetual risk to others, too. |
Re: What would you do regarding this servicing oversight?
Thus spake bristle :
>My thanks to all (save a couple of posts from the usual and expected >usenet dysfunctionals) for their consensus view. > > >Adieu Okay, here's my take. I check and retorque (as needed) about 500 miles after the tires have been off the car. Realistically you don't need to do that and, as you say, you don't have the skill set, nor, likely, the tools. I do check my pressure once a week, as well as my oil. You should be competent enough to check the oil as it's written in the owner's manual and all of the rods are well (VERY WELL) marked. Air pressure? I've always hated the pop up gauges, but my in-laws gave me a digital instant read that's great. Accurate (it reads to the tenth, I'm only worried about halves) and repeatable. When ever you walk up to your car in the open during the day, just walk around the car. You may not know what you're looking for right now, but in 3 or 4 months you'll know what's different, even if you don't know why. You're whining that "that's something I can't do" is just that, a little whine. It's your responsibility to take care of your car. Unless you believe in the nanny state. -- - dillon I am not invalid I love my country, It's my government I fear. Hey, turnabout's fair play. |
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