Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

<ALF_SCHUMWAY@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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>
> Remco wrote:
>
>> About getting nuts off: I am restoring a vw beetle so after trying to
>> get some of the rusted bolts off, I invested in an IR impact gun. If it
>> doesn't come off, it will break :)
>>
>
> I recently did the timing belt on it. My wrench is 235 ft/lbs.
> Wouldn't budge the crankshaft pulley bolt. My brother had a 375 ft/lb
> IR. Ditto. A 5' pipe over the breaker bar did the trick on that. The
> impact wrench worked, but the pipe didn't on the Accord hub nut. I
> think the pipe was about 4' that time. The Civic nuts weren't as hub
> bad. I think you also have to separate the tie rod too. That was the
> only other obstacle. Good luck.
>

I've had success using a 235 ft-lb impact on axle nuts, but even the 500
ft-lb has to work at getting crankshaft bolts free.

I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

<ALF_SCHUMWAY@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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>
> Remco wrote:
>
>> About getting nuts off: I am restoring a vw beetle so after trying to
>> get some of the rusted bolts off, I invested in an IR impact gun. If it
>> doesn't come off, it will break :)
>>
>
> I recently did the timing belt on it. My wrench is 235 ft/lbs.
> Wouldn't budge the crankshaft pulley bolt. My brother had a 375 ft/lb
> IR. Ditto. A 5' pipe over the breaker bar did the trick on that. The
> impact wrench worked, but the pipe didn't on the Accord hub nut. I
> think the pipe was about 4' that time. The Civic nuts weren't as hub
> bad. I think you also have to separate the tie rod too. That was the
> only other obstacle. Good luck.
>

I've had success using a 235 ft-lb impact on axle nuts, but even the 500
ft-lb has to work at getting crankshaft bolts free.

I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

<ALF_SCHUMWAY@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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>
> Remco wrote:
>
>> About getting nuts off: I am restoring a vw beetle so after trying to
>> get some of the rusted bolts off, I invested in an IR impact gun. If it
>> doesn't come off, it will break :)
>>
>
> I recently did the timing belt on it. My wrench is 235 ft/lbs.
> Wouldn't budge the crankshaft pulley bolt. My brother had a 375 ft/lb
> IR. Ditto. A 5' pipe over the breaker bar did the trick on that. The
> impact wrench worked, but the pipe didn't on the Accord hub nut. I
> think the pipe was about 4' that time. The Civic nuts weren't as hub
> bad. I think you also have to separate the tie rod too. That was the
> only other obstacle. Good luck.
>

I've had success using a 235 ft-lb impact on axle nuts, but even the 500
ft-lb has to work at getting crankshaft bolts free.

I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

<ALF_SCHUMWAY@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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>
> Remco wrote:
>
>> About getting nuts off: I am restoring a vw beetle so after trying to
>> get some of the rusted bolts off, I invested in an IR impact gun. If it
>> doesn't come off, it will break :)
>>
>
> I recently did the timing belt on it. My wrench is 235 ft/lbs.
> Wouldn't budge the crankshaft pulley bolt. My brother had a 375 ft/lb
> IR. Ditto. A 5' pipe over the breaker bar did the trick on that. The
> impact wrench worked, but the pipe didn't on the Accord hub nut. I
> think the pipe was about 4' that time. The Civic nuts weren't as hub
> bad. I think you also have to separate the tie rod too. That was the
> only other obstacle. Good luck.
>

I've had success using a 235 ft-lb impact on axle nuts, but even the 500
ft-lb has to work at getting crankshaft bolts free.

I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
<snip>
> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
> didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
> wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>
dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
much easier!

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
<snip>
> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
> didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
> wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>
dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
much easier!

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
<snip>
> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
> didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
> wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>
dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
much easier!

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
<snip>
> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
> didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
> wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>
dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
much easier!

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Pardee wrote:
> <snip>
>> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when
>> I didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar
>> because the wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>>
> dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
> gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
> much easier!

I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Pardee wrote:
> <snip>
>> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when
>> I didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar
>> because the wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>>
> dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
> gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
> much easier!

I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:nbmdnTjb1rRFl9_YnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> <snip>
>> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when
>> I didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar
>> because the wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>>
> dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
> gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
> much easier!

I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:nbmdnTjb1rRFl9_YnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> <snip>
>> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when
>> I didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar
>> because the wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>>
> dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
> gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
> much easier!

I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.

Mike

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:nbmdnTjb1rRFl9_YnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when
>>> I didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar
>>> because the wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>>>
>> dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
>> gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
>> much easier!
>
> I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
> though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
> bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
> cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
> used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
> front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
> to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.
>
> Mike
>
>
ok, i understand what you're describing, but with respect, i still don't
get why. to my way of thinking, it's much easier to push down on a
lever using gravity as your friend than it is to lift up against it.
you can't lift a wheel off the ground that way [well, not unless you
pivot the whole car against a truly locked bolt and succeed in lifting
the other end] and i see no difference whether it's axle nuts or
crankshaft pulley bolts. i'm a real lazy guy mike and i hate sweating
to be the strong guy when i can just use the weight of my lardy rear end
to assist my efforts. using a jack to lift a breaker bar is fraught
with potential danger from what i can see.

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:nbmdnTjb1rRFl9_YnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when
>>> I didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar
>>> because the wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>>>
>> dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
>> gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
>> much easier!
>
> I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
> though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
> bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
> cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
> used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
> front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
> to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.
>
> Mike
>
>
ok, i understand what you're describing, but with respect, i still don't
get why. to my way of thinking, it's much easier to push down on a
lever using gravity as your friend than it is to lift up against it.
you can't lift a wheel off the ground that way [well, not unless you
pivot the whole car against a truly locked bolt and succeed in lifting
the other end] and i see no difference whether it's axle nuts or
crankshaft pulley bolts. i'm a real lazy guy mike and i hate sweating
to be the strong guy when i can just use the weight of my lardy rear end
to assist my efforts. using a jack to lift a breaker bar is fraught
with potential danger from what i can see.

Re: what's a good source of replacement half axles?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:nbmdnTjb1rRFl9_YnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when
>>> I didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar
>>> because the wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.
>>>
>> dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
>> gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
>> much easier!
>
> I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
> though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
> bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
> cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
> used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
> front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
> to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.
>
> Mike
>
>
ok, i understand what you're describing, but with respect, i still don't
get why. to my way of thinking, it's much easier to push down on a
lever using gravity as your friend than it is to lift up against it.
you can't lift a wheel off the ground that way [well, not unless you
pivot the whole car against a truly locked bolt and succeed in lifting
the other end] and i see no difference whether it's axle nuts or
crankshaft pulley bolts. i'm a real lazy guy mike and i hate sweating
to be the strong guy when i can just use the weight of my lardy rear end
to assist my efforts. using a jack to lift a breaker bar is fraught
with potential danger from what i can see.