Benjamin Bootstrap

Dear Honda group members:

I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
SE V6 or Accord EX-V6

Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
would you choose an Accord over the Camry?

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <9i0a45d00dvsccdbhqhpcnq17ep5b3r8bs@4ax.com>,
Benjamin Bootstrap <benjamin.bootstrap@verizon.net> wrote:

> Dear Honda group members:
>
> I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
> SE V6 or Accord EX-V6
>
> Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
> would you choose an Accord over the Camry?

The big reason is that the Camry is a Japanese Buick, while the Accord
absolutely goes to the other end of the "sporty" spectrum.

There's nothing wrong with the Japanese Buick concept, if that's what
you like.

Down from that, the next reason would be your support mechanism. If you
have good Toyota support (you like your dealer, friends/family have all
had good experience with Toyota, you have a Toyota mechanic in the
family, you have a good independent Toyota mechanic nearby, whatever),
then get the Toyota. Likewise for Honda. Whatever you do, don't
underestimate your support structure.

Don't drive an extra 30 minutes out of your way to get one car over the
other, if it also means driving that extra 30 minutes to get
service/warranty support.

After that, start looking at silly stuff that turns out not to be so
silly. Consider the wife factor. Look at the controls. Listen to the
stereo. Unlock the trunk. Put the rear seats down. Whatever.

In the end, it just doesn't matter--you could toss a coin and be happy
with the winner.

bad@bob.net

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:16:21 -0400, Benjamin Bootstrap
<benjamin.bootstrap@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>Dear Honda group members:
>
>I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
>SE V6 or Accord EX-V6
>
>Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
>would you choose an Accord over the Camry?


Don't know about current models.

A few years ago:

handling - Accord
sportiest - Accord
ride - Camry
noise level - Camry

Just my 2 cents.

Both fine cars

Have both Honda and Toyota in the garage.

Benjamin Bootstrap

On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:47:19 -0500, bad@bob.net wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:16:21 -0400, Benjamin Bootstrap
><benjamin.bootstrap@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Dear Honda group members:
>>
>>I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
>>SE V6 or Accord EX-V6
>>
>>Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
>>would you choose an Accord over the Camry?
>
>
>Don't know about current models.
>
>A few years ago:
>
>handling - Accord
>sportiest - Accord
>ride - Camry
>noise level - Camry
>
>Just my 2 cents.
>
>Both fine cars
>
>Have both Honda and Toyota in the garage.

I must say I agree with the handling part. I can drive a Honda off
the highway ramp at 70 mph, and so far I can't do the same with any
other brand.

JRStern

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:51:21 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <9i0a45d00dvsccdbhqhpcnq17ep5b3r8bs@4ax.com>,
> Benjamin Bootstrap <benjamin.bootstrap@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Honda group members:
>>
>> I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
>> SE V6 or Accord EX-V6
>>
>> Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
>> would you choose an Accord over the Camry?
>
>The big reason is that the Camry is a Japanese Buick, while the Accord
>absolutely goes to the other end of the "sporty" spectrum.
>
>There's nothing wrong with the Japanese Buick concept, if that's what
>you like.
>
>Down from that, the next reason would be your support mechanism. If you
>have good Toyota support (you like your dealer, friends/family have all
>had good experience with Toyota, you have a Toyota mechanic in the
>family, you have a good independent Toyota mechanic nearby, whatever),
>then get the Toyota. Likewise for Honda. Whatever you do, don't
>underestimate your support structure.
>
>Don't drive an extra 30 minutes out of your way to get one car over the
>other, if it also means driving that extra 30 minutes to get
>service/warranty support.
>
>After that, start looking at silly stuff that turns out not to be so
>silly. Consider the wife factor. Look at the controls. Listen to the
>stereo. Unlock the trunk. Put the rear seats down. Whatever.

Color choice!

But at least on the Honda side, I'd really recommend the four
cylinder.


>
>In the end, it just doesn't matter--you could toss a coin and be happy
>with the winner.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <amjd45tevb0kstvt5me34e18pcbne0pume@4ax.com>,
JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:

> Color choice!
>
> But at least on the Honda side, I'd really recommend the four
> cylinder.

I'll always say, a four cylinder Honda with a manual transmission is a
bulletproof jewel of engineering and manufacturing.

Stick with what they know best, and that's the four bangers and manual
trans.

JRStern

On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:58:14 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <amjd45tevb0kstvt5me34e18pcbne0pume@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Color choice!
>>
>> But at least on the Honda side, I'd really recommend the four
>> cylinder.
>
>I'll always say, a four cylinder Honda with a manual transmission is a
>bulletproof jewel of engineering and manufacturing.
>
>Stick with what they know best, and that's the four bangers and manual
>trans.


Agreed. But, try to find a manual! My lease is up in November, maybe
I'd better schlepp over to the dealer now and order one. Though I've
been driving the automatics for a couple of trade-ins now, wonder if I
remember how to shift.

J.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <u45f451tje7d3cc4magedergjo3qkekc03@4ax.com>,
JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:

> >Stick with what they know best, and that's the four bangers and manual
> >trans.
>
>
> Agreed. But, try to find a manual!

Honda makes it fairly easy, even for certified used.

jim beam

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <amjd45tevb0kstvt5me34e18pcbne0pume@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Color choice!
>>
>> But at least on the Honda side, I'd really recommend the four
>> cylinder.
>
> I'll always say, a four cylinder Honda with a manual transmission is a
> bulletproof jewel of engineering and manufacturing.
>
> Stick with what they know best, and that's the four bangers and manual
> trans.

their old auto transmissions on their 4-cylinders weren't bad either.
friends had an accord with 360k miles on original.

jim beam

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <9i0a45d00dvsccdbhqhpcnq17ep5b3r8bs@4ax.com>,
> Benjamin Bootstrap <benjamin.bootstrap@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Honda group members:
>>
>> I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
>> SE V6 or Accord EX-V6
>>
>> Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
>> would you choose an Accord over the Camry?
>
> The big reason is that the Camry is a Japanese Buick, while the Accord
> absolutely goes to the other end of the "sporty" spectrum.

very good comparison.


>
> There's nothing wrong with the Japanese Buick concept, if that's what
> you like.
>
> Down from that, the next reason would be your support mechanism. If you
> have good Toyota support (you like your dealer, friends/family have all
> had good experience with Toyota, you have a Toyota mechanic in the
> family, you have a good independent Toyota mechanic nearby, whatever),
> then get the Toyota. Likewise for Honda. Whatever you do, don't
> underestimate your support structure.
>
> Don't drive an extra 30 minutes out of your way to get one car over the
> other, if it also means driving that extra 30 minutes to get
> service/warranty support.
>
> After that, start looking at silly stuff that turns out not to be so
> silly. Consider the wife factor. Look at the controls. Listen to the
> stereo. Unlock the trunk. Put the rear seats down. Whatever.
>
> In the end, it just doesn't matter--you could toss a coin and be happy
> with the winner.

mred

On Jun 26, 1:16 pm, Benjamin Bootstrap
<benjamin.bootst...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Dear Honda group members:
>
> I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
> SE V6 or Accord EX-V6
>
> Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
> would you choose an Accord over the Camry?

I have had two Accords , an `86 and a `92 4cyl auto matics.

My present car is a `02 Camry -4 auto,bought after my `02 was totaled.

Both Accords had well over 350,000 K on them with no engine or tranny
problems.

however I have to say I always take my cars in twice a year for an oil/
filter change Mobil 1, 5w30,)and they check the car over at that time.

I also have the tires rotated twice a year when I get the oil changed

The `86 had two ball joits and one tie rod end replaced over the
years.

The `86 was hard on brakes , not so the `92.

As far as I can tell with my driving experience ?

The accords were sportier to drive and handle but more maintanance
required than my present `02 Camry.

All I have done to my Camry , (bought used 3 years ago with 95,000k on
it and 147,000 k now) is change oil/filter, antifreeze, a/c unit leak
and flex exhaust pipe at converter.

New tires (Michelins)were installed at purchase time by dealer and new
brakes as well.

As far as driving the Camry its not as sporty to drive and handle as
an Accord but maintenence is much less and its a great highway car for
long trips as some of my trips involve 1600-1700 miles one way.Very
comfortable
Much more comfortable than the Accords as .well over a long driving
day.

The bonus , is all my Japanese cars were made in Japan.

Hope this helps .

Greg Campbell

Benjamin Bootstrap wrote:

> Dear Honda group members:
>
> I am having a hard time trying to decide whether or not to buy a Camry
> SE V6 or Accord EX-V6
>
> Just want to know if you guys can offer any expert opinions on why
> would you choose an Accord over the Camry?

If you're down to a coin toss, do the country a favor and buy a car
assembled in the US. Honda and Toyota build these models in the US, but
that may not imply that ALL Accords and Camrys sold in the US are built
here. Check the VIN number. The first number represents the country of
origin: 1=US, 2=Canada, 3=Mex.

Greg Campbell

> Check the VIN number. The first number represents the country of
> origin: 1=US, 2=Canada, 3=Mex.

P.S.
4xxx and 5xxx are also US built.

JRStern

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:12:35 -0700, Greg Campbell <nospam@null.net>
wrote:

>> Check the VIN number. The first number represents the country of
>> origin: 1=US, 2=Canada, 3=Mex.
>
>P.S.
>4xxx and 5xxx are also US built.

Last I knew, 4-bangers were built in Japan, at least those sold on the
left coast. Darn it.

J.

Joe

On 2009-07-05, JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:12:35 -0700, Greg Campbell <nospam@null.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> Check the VIN number. The first number represents the country of
>>> origin: 1=US, 2=Canada, 3=Mex.
>>
>>P.S.
>>4xxx and 5xxx are also US built.
>
> Last I knew, 4-bangers were built in Japan, at least those sold on the
> left coast. Darn it.

My 4-Banger was built in CA, IIRC. The only thing in the car built in
JP was the tranny...

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