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wiper question
Hey guys
New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. One question though, On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about ..5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and wiping off the glass on the upstroke. If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, but once I go quick, its all over. Any ideas? thanks guys! AER |
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<aer23@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message news:tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com... > Hey guys > New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. > Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed > demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. > One question though, > On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about > .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and > wiping off the glass on the upstroke. > If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, > but once I go quick, its all over. > Any ideas? > thanks guys! > AER Maybe they are aftermarket? What does the manual or dealer say is standard size? |
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<aer23@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message news:tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com... > Hey guys > New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. > Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed > demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. > One question though, > On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about > .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and > wiping off the glass on the upstroke. > If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, > but once I go quick, its all over. > Any ideas? > thanks guys! > AER Maybe they are aftermarket? What does the manual or dealer say is standard size? |
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In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>,
aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > Hey guys > New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. > Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed > demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. > One question though, > On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about > .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and > wiping off the glass on the upstroke. > If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, > but once I go quick, its all over. > Any ideas? > thanks guys! > AER I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle. |
Re: wiper question
In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>,
aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > Hey guys > New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. > Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed > demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. > One question though, > On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about > .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and > wiping off the glass on the upstroke. > If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, > but once I go quick, its all over. > Any ideas? > thanks guys! > AER I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle. |
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I know what you mean about installing them higher, but they already
wipe higher on the upstroke when on highspeed, so setting them higher would make them go further off the window than it already does. Its funny. The cars been serviced by the dealer since day one (i have alllll papers on it) and wipers were never replaced. I supposed they COULD be too long, but They dont look too long, or even longer than other civics I have seen (I checked this ouf first) THey only over arch on high speed. Low speed and intermittant stop at the right spot, staying on the window just fine.... Wierd.... And when I turn them off, they reset to the correct neutral position. Its like the momentum is just carrying them too far on high speeed.... AER On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:33:56 -0700, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote: >In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>, >aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > >> Hey guys >> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. >> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed >> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. >> One question though, >> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about >> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and >> wiping off the glass on the upstroke. >> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, >> but once I go quick, its all over. >> Any ideas? >> thanks guys! >> AER > >I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or >may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of >the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into >place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see >if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher >than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they >installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle. |
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I know what you mean about installing them higher, but they already
wipe higher on the upstroke when on highspeed, so setting them higher would make them go further off the window than it already does. Its funny. The cars been serviced by the dealer since day one (i have alllll papers on it) and wipers were never replaced. I supposed they COULD be too long, but They dont look too long, or even longer than other civics I have seen (I checked this ouf first) THey only over arch on high speed. Low speed and intermittant stop at the right spot, staying on the window just fine.... Wierd.... And when I turn them off, they reset to the correct neutral position. Its like the momentum is just carrying them too far on high speeed.... AER On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:33:56 -0700, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote: >In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>, >aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > >> Hey guys >> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. >> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed >> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. >> One question though, >> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about >> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and >> wiping off the glass on the upstroke. >> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, >> but once I go quick, its all over. >> Any ideas? >> thanks guys! >> AER > >I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or >may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of >the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into >place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see >if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher >than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they >installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle. |
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Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)? Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs placed inside wiper blade rubber. Then wiper blade is slid into arm. Inferior blades throw away the entire arm and those stainless steel ribs so that you will never again be able to use superior Honda blades. If the rubber wiper blade has plastic stiffeners or feels like dried out rubber, then someone so hated the car as to install inferior wiper blades. Honda blades last one year or more. Cheap third party blades typically last about 3 months. Honda uses superior rubber - not cost controls. However if you have the cheap and inferior replacement type blades (sold in inches), then go to the dealer for new arms that include that superior wiper blade and the stainless steel stiffener ribs. aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > Hey guys > New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. > Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed > demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. > One question though, > On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about > .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and > wiping off the glass on the upstroke. > If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, > but once I go quick, its all over. > Any ideas? > thanks guys! > AER |
Re: wiper question
Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)? Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs placed inside wiper blade rubber. Then wiper blade is slid into arm. Inferior blades throw away the entire arm and those stainless steel ribs so that you will never again be able to use superior Honda blades. If the rubber wiper blade has plastic stiffeners or feels like dried out rubber, then someone so hated the car as to install inferior wiper blades. Honda blades last one year or more. Cheap third party blades typically last about 3 months. Honda uses superior rubber - not cost controls. However if you have the cheap and inferior replacement type blades (sold in inches), then go to the dealer for new arms that include that superior wiper blade and the stainless steel stiffener ribs. aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > Hey guys > New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute. > Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed > demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go. > One question though, > On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about > .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and > wiping off the glass on the upstroke. > If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well, > but once I go quick, its all over. > Any ideas? > thanks guys! > AER |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com... > Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some > cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)? > Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs > placed inside wiper blade rubber. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after market Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal inserts in the sides of the blades. Also, the packages they are sold in -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion , are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions. |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com... > Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some > cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)? > Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs > placed inside wiper blade rubber. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after market Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal inserts in the sides of the blades. Also, the packages they are sold in -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion , are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions. |
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Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better blade at the dealer. It is a problem. Too many of us buy only on price and get the wiper blades we deserve. Brian Smith wrote: > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com... >> Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some >> cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)? >> Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs >> placed inside wiper blade rubber. > > Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after > market Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal > inserts in the sides of the blades. Also, the packages they are > sold in > -- > Brian > www.accesswave.ca/~orion > , are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions. |
Re: wiper question
Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better blade at the dealer. It is a problem. Too many of us buy only on price and get the wiper blades we deserve. Brian Smith wrote: > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com... >> Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some >> cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)? >> Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs >> placed inside wiper blade rubber. > > Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after > market Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal > inserts in the sides of the blades. Also, the packages they are > sold in > -- > Brian > www.accesswave.ca/~orion > , are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions. |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com... > Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single > major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost > control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms > removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior > rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to > install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better > blade at the dealer. Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com... > Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single > major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost > control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms > removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior > rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to > install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better > blade at the dealer. Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
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Hi,
Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? Tony Brian Smith wrote: > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com... > >> Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single >>major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost >>control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms >>removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior >>rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to >>install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better >>blade at the dealer. > > > Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I > was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches. > |
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Hi,
Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? Tony Brian Smith wrote: > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com... > >> Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single >>major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost >>control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms >>removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior >>rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to >>install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better >>blade at the dealer. > > > Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I > was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches. > |
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Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob
Tony Hwang wrote:> > Hi, > Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? > Tony > y |
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Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob
Tony Hwang wrote:> > Hi, > Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? > Tony > y |
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Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly sized - that were too large for the car. "N.E.Ohio Bob" wrote: > Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob > > Tony Hwang wrote:> >> Hi, >> Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? >> Tony >> y |
Re: wiper question
Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly sized - that were too large for the car. "N.E.Ohio Bob" wrote: > Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob > > Tony Hwang wrote:> >> Hi, >> Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? >> Tony >> y |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com... > Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this > discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last > longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to > identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior > third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly > sized - that were too large for the car. The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with quality, period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool. Pardon me for being blunt, but, that is what you come across as being. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com... > Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this > discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last > longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to > identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior > third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly > sized - that were too large for the car. The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with quality, period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool. Pardon me for being blunt, but, that is what you come across as being. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
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Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being
honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also quite appropriate. Although centimeters verses inches should have no relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are made with inferior rubber, that dispose of those better Honda wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes don't quite fit. How dare they. After all, all cars are manufactured in centimeters; not inches. But wiper blades sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars. Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that car - not approximate for every car. Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong relationship between higher performance and reliability. It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and 52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway; periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to performance? It tends to. There should be no relationship between wipers sold in inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches more often don't quite fit. There should be no relationship between engine performance and tire wear. But there is. In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda. Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response. Brian Smith wrote: > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com... >> Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this >> discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last >> longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to >> identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior >> third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly >> sized - that were too large for the car. > > The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with > quality, period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool. > Pardon me for being blunt, but, that is what you come across as > being. > > -- > Brian > www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
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Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being
honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also quite appropriate. Although centimeters verses inches should have no relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are made with inferior rubber, that dispose of those better Honda wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes don't quite fit. How dare they. After all, all cars are manufactured in centimeters; not inches. But wiper blades sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars. Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that car - not approximate for every car. Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong relationship between higher performance and reliability. It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and 52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway; periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to performance? It tends to. There should be no relationship between wipers sold in inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches more often don't quite fit. There should be no relationship between engine performance and tire wear. But there is. In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda. Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response. Brian Smith wrote: > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com... >> Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this >> discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last >> longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to >> identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior >> third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly >> sized - that were too large for the car. > > The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with > quality, period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool. > Pardon me for being blunt, but, that is what you come across as > being. > > -- > Brian > www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F5922E9.A9B06AB9@hotmail.com... > Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being > honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means > being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also > quite appropriate. Thank you. > Although centimeters verses inches should have no > relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are > made with inferior rubber, What fact do you have to prove this point? >that dispose of those better Honda > wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes > don't quite fit. I thought you were talking about the blades, but, here you mention the arms. >How dare they. After all, all cars are > manufactured in centimeters; not inches. They might be sold in parts of a rod, too <g>. >But wiper blades > sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars. > Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that > is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper > blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a > more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that > car - not approximate for every car. I truly don't see a problem with the unit of measure. I have had many vehicles through my life, and have never (to my knowledge) purchased a pair of wiper blades, that were packaged as being measured in the metric unit. > Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they > do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of > about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make > more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should > not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong > relationship between higher performance and reliability. Okay, a larger engine doesn't have to work as hard as a smaller engine, to maintain the same speed. > It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and > 52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to > eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first > tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and > often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower > performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway; > periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe > three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to > performance? It tends to. In this case I would have to say that (in my opinion), the quality of the tires is the reason that some tires out perform/last longer than others. The same can be said of the steering components. > There should be no relationship between wipers sold in > inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches > more often don't quite fit. As I stated above, I have never experienced this. >There should be no relationship > between engine performance and tire wear. But there is. The main relationship could be said to be; how hard the driver of the vehicle, stands on the go pedal. > In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally > irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda. To a certain point, yes. But, you (I believe it was you) sounded as if, Honda made the blades themselves. > Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response. That's it for me tonight, work in the morning. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
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"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F5922E9.A9B06AB9@hotmail.com... > Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being > honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means > being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also > quite appropriate. Thank you. > Although centimeters verses inches should have no > relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are > made with inferior rubber, What fact do you have to prove this point? >that dispose of those better Honda > wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes > don't quite fit. I thought you were talking about the blades, but, here you mention the arms. >How dare they. After all, all cars are > manufactured in centimeters; not inches. They might be sold in parts of a rod, too <g>. >But wiper blades > sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars. > Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that > is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper > blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a > more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that > car - not approximate for every car. I truly don't see a problem with the unit of measure. I have had many vehicles through my life, and have never (to my knowledge) purchased a pair of wiper blades, that were packaged as being measured in the metric unit. > Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they > do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of > about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make > more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should > not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong > relationship between higher performance and reliability. Okay, a larger engine doesn't have to work as hard as a smaller engine, to maintain the same speed. > It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and > 52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to > eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first > tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and > often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower > performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway; > periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe > three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to > performance? It tends to. In this case I would have to say that (in my opinion), the quality of the tires is the reason that some tires out perform/last longer than others. The same can be said of the steering components. > There should be no relationship between wipers sold in > inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches > more often don't quite fit. As I stated above, I have never experienced this. >There should be no relationship > between engine performance and tire wear. But there is. The main relationship could be said to be; how hard the driver of the vehicle, stands on the go pedal. > In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally > irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda. To a certain point, yes. But, you (I believe it was you) sounded as if, Honda made the blades themselves. > Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response. That's it for me tonight, work in the morning. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
Re: wiper question
Hi,
On any car, only major component is designed and manufactured by manufacturer. (NGK) spark plug, (Nippon Denso) alternator, starter, glass, rims, seats, suspension, do you think Honda makes them all? Parts makers make them per Honda spec. like any other manufacturers. Then they put Honda stamp. Heard of Exedy clutch? Major Japanese OEM cluth maker. Tony N.E.Ohio Bob wrote: > Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob > > Tony Hwang wrote:> > >>Hi, >>Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? >>Tony >>y |
Re: wiper question
Hi,
On any car, only major component is designed and manufactured by manufacturer. (NGK) spark plug, (Nippon Denso) alternator, starter, glass, rims, seats, suspension, do you think Honda makes them all? Parts makers make them per Honda spec. like any other manufacturers. Then they put Honda stamp. Heard of Exedy clutch? Major Japanese OEM cluth maker. Tony N.E.Ohio Bob wrote: > Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob > > Tony Hwang wrote:> > >>Hi, >>Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? >>Tony >>y |
Re: wiper question
Hi,
Exactly, when I go buy a set of blades, I take old ones off and get the same dimension ones. Like anything else, you get what you pay for. I got an impresson, "Honda blade or else sentiment" If after market, third party parts are all inferior, how can they stay in busisness? Again, you get what you pay for. Tony w_tom wrote: > Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this > discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last > longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to > identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior > third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly > sized - that were too large for the car. > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" wrote: > >> Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob >> >>Tony Hwang wrote:> >> >>>Hi, >>>Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? >>>Tony >>>y |
Re: wiper question
Hi,
Exactly, when I go buy a set of blades, I take old ones off and get the same dimension ones. Like anything else, you get what you pay for. I got an impresson, "Honda blade or else sentiment" If after market, third party parts are all inferior, how can they stay in busisness? Again, you get what you pay for. Tony w_tom wrote: > Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this > discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last > longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to > identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior > third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly > sized - that were too large for the car. > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" wrote: > >> Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob >> >>Tony Hwang wrote:> >> >>>Hi, >>>Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades? >>>Tony >>>y |
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