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XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX which comes with the XM Satellite Radio
system. I love XM but the stereo itself leaves much to be desired. For instance, this head unit doesn't display the ampersand sign (&) in the titles of songs or artists for some reason. Does anyone else notice this? If not, which model number does your stereo have in the lower right hand corner? Is there any way to replace the stereo? I am guessing not since it also displays the status of the heating/cooling system. Thanks, Richard ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Of course you can replace your stereo system. However, as you correctly
noted you are going to sacrifice some other functionality. I don't recommend doing it. My son has a new '04 EX and previously had a Blaupunkt system + amplifier & subs in a Toyota RAV4. Tho somewhat of a music buff he chose not to tamper with the sound system in his new Honda because he thought it sounded pretty good stock. --- and he made this decision before purchasing the EX. To my knowledge right now there's really not much of anything out there in the aftermarket products along the lines of a FULLY INTEGRATED XM receiver (meaning built-in to the main system). Don't dispair, even the factory stock XM system in the fully equipped $75,000 Lexus LS430 doesn't display as much info as the $119 aftermarket Roadie. In article <41eb091b$1_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: >I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX which comes with the XM Satellite Radio >system. I love XM but the stereo itself leaves much to be desired. For >instance, this head unit doesn't display the ampersand sign (&) in the >titles of songs or artists for some reason. Does anyone else notice this? >If not, which model number does your stereo have in the lower right hand >corner? > >Is there any way to replace the stereo? I am guessing not since it also >displays the status of the heating/cooling system. > >Thanks, >Richard > > > >----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Of course you can replace your stereo system. However, as you correctly
noted you are going to sacrifice some other functionality. I don't recommend doing it. My son has a new '04 EX and previously had a Blaupunkt system + amplifier & subs in a Toyota RAV4. Tho somewhat of a music buff he chose not to tamper with the sound system in his new Honda because he thought it sounded pretty good stock. --- and he made this decision before purchasing the EX. To my knowledge right now there's really not much of anything out there in the aftermarket products along the lines of a FULLY INTEGRATED XM receiver (meaning built-in to the main system). Don't dispair, even the factory stock XM system in the fully equipped $75,000 Lexus LS430 doesn't display as much info as the $119 aftermarket Roadie. In article <41eb091b$1_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: >I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX which comes with the XM Satellite Radio >system. I love XM but the stereo itself leaves much to be desired. For >instance, this head unit doesn't display the ampersand sign (&) in the >titles of songs or artists for some reason. Does anyone else notice this? >If not, which model number does your stereo have in the lower right hand >corner? > >Is there any way to replace the stereo? I am guessing not since it also >displays the status of the heating/cooling system. > >Thanks, >Richard > > > >----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Thanks for your post. I guess I can live with the stock stereo. It does
sound good but it bugs me that I had such a better one in my '93 Saturn (aftermarket Kenwood head unit). Anyway, you mention your son has the same car I do, can you ask him if he notices the missing ampersands? Thanks, Richard "Bubba" <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote in message news:ub8mu0h8kfb8pgvontm31sqipho030felr@4ax.com... > Of course you can replace your stereo system. However, as you correctly > noted you are going to sacrifice some other functionality. I don't > recommend doing it. > > My son has a new '04 EX and previously had a Blaupunkt system + amplifier > & subs in a Toyota RAV4. Tho somewhat of a music buff he chose not to > tamper with the sound system in his new Honda because he thought it > sounded pretty good stock. --- and he made this decision before purchasing > the EX. > > To my knowledge right now there's really not much of anything out there in > the aftermarket products along the lines of a FULLY INTEGRATED XM receiver > (meaning built-in to the main system). > > Don't dispair, even the factory stock XM system in the fully equipped > $75,000 Lexus LS430 doesn't display as much info as the $119 aftermarket > Roadie. > > In article <41eb091b$1_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester" > <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: > >>I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX which comes with the XM Satellite Radio >>system. I love XM but the stereo itself leaves much to be desired. For >>instance, this head unit doesn't display the ampersand sign (&) in the >>titles of songs or artists for some reason. Does anyone else notice this? >>If not, which model number does your stereo have in the lower right hand >>corner? >> >>Is there any way to replace the stereo? I am guessing not since it also >>displays the status of the heating/cooling system. >> >>Thanks, >>Richard >> >> >> >>----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet >>News==---- >>http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ >>Newsgroups >>----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >>=---- > > |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Thanks for your post. I guess I can live with the stock stereo. It does
sound good but it bugs me that I had such a better one in my '93 Saturn (aftermarket Kenwood head unit). Anyway, you mention your son has the same car I do, can you ask him if he notices the missing ampersands? Thanks, Richard "Bubba" <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote in message news:ub8mu0h8kfb8pgvontm31sqipho030felr@4ax.com... > Of course you can replace your stereo system. However, as you correctly > noted you are going to sacrifice some other functionality. I don't > recommend doing it. > > My son has a new '04 EX and previously had a Blaupunkt system + amplifier > & subs in a Toyota RAV4. Tho somewhat of a music buff he chose not to > tamper with the sound system in his new Honda because he thought it > sounded pretty good stock. --- and he made this decision before purchasing > the EX. > > To my knowledge right now there's really not much of anything out there in > the aftermarket products along the lines of a FULLY INTEGRATED XM receiver > (meaning built-in to the main system). > > Don't dispair, even the factory stock XM system in the fully equipped > $75,000 Lexus LS430 doesn't display as much info as the $119 aftermarket > Roadie. > > In article <41eb091b$1_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester" > <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: > >>I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX which comes with the XM Satellite Radio >>system. I love XM but the stereo itself leaves much to be desired. For >>instance, this head unit doesn't display the ampersand sign (&) in the >>titles of songs or artists for some reason. Does anyone else notice this? >>If not, which model number does your stereo have in the lower right hand >>corner? >> >>Is there any way to replace the stereo? I am guessing not since it also >>displays the status of the heating/cooling system. >> >>Thanks, >>Richard >> >> >> >>----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet >>News==---- >>http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ >>Newsgroups >>----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >>=---- > > |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
I hadn't missed the "&", but what's up with the other weird symbol that
keeps appearing? It is sort of like a backward ">" and almost looks like an element of the LCD is misfiring. Is it supposed to be a "!" ? I always see it on the raunchy comedy station's name, for example. I don't like the Accord's a/c and radio design at all. I bought the car in spite of it. The unnecessary complexity of it all completely steered me away from the nav unit. The CD sound isn't too awful, but it seems XM is now compressing their audio more and more, and quality is going down the tubes, just like happened with Dish Network. When my $60 one-year subscription is done, I'll have to think hard about continuing. And the tuning button is as far away as I can reach without leaning over. Station-by-station tuning is an actual pain in the elbow after a minute or so, and I can't make the steering wheel controls do it; they only go through the pre-set channels. Barf. JM |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
I hadn't missed the "&", but what's up with the other weird symbol that
keeps appearing? It is sort of like a backward ">" and almost looks like an element of the LCD is misfiring. Is it supposed to be a "!" ? I always see it on the raunchy comedy station's name, for example. I don't like the Accord's a/c and radio design at all. I bought the car in spite of it. The unnecessary complexity of it all completely steered me away from the nav unit. The CD sound isn't too awful, but it seems XM is now compressing their audio more and more, and quality is going down the tubes, just like happened with Dish Network. When my $60 one-year subscription is done, I'll have to think hard about continuing. And the tuning button is as far away as I can reach without leaning over. Station-by-station tuning is an actual pain in the elbow after a minute or so, and I can't make the steering wheel controls do it; they only go through the pre-set channels. Barf. JM |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
So are you saying that you never noticed the "&" symbol missing before or
that they actually do indeed show up on your radio? I'll look for the backward ">" that you describe. Richard <jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:1105982992.302515.276700@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... >I hadn't missed the "&", but what's up with the other weird symbol that > keeps appearing? It is sort of like a backward ">" and almost looks > like an element of the LCD is misfiring. Is it supposed to be a "!" ? > > I always see it on the raunchy comedy station's name, for example. > > I don't like the Accord's a/c and radio design at all. I bought the > car in spite of it. The unnecessary complexity of it all completely > steered me away from the nav unit. The CD sound isn't too awful, but > it seems XM is now compressing their audio more and more, and quality > is going down the tubes, just like happened with Dish Network. When my > $60 one-year subscription is done, I'll have to think hard about > continuing. > > And the tuning button is as far away as I can reach without leaning > over. Station-by-station tuning is an actual pain in the elbow after a > minute or so, and I can't make the steering wheel controls do it; they > only go through the pre-set channels. Barf. > > JM > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
So are you saying that you never noticed the "&" symbol missing before or
that they actually do indeed show up on your radio? I'll look for the backward ">" that you describe. Richard <jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:1105982992.302515.276700@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... >I hadn't missed the "&", but what's up with the other weird symbol that > keeps appearing? It is sort of like a backward ">" and almost looks > like an element of the LCD is misfiring. Is it supposed to be a "!" ? > > I always see it on the raunchy comedy station's name, for example. > > I don't like the Accord's a/c and radio design at all. I bought the > car in spite of it. The unnecessary complexity of it all completely > steered me away from the nav unit. The CD sound isn't too awful, but > it seems XM is now compressing their audio more and more, and quality > is going down the tubes, just like happened with Dish Network. When my > $60 one-year subscription is done, I'll have to think hard about > continuing. > > And the tuning button is as far away as I can reach without leaning > over. Station-by-station tuning is an actual pain in the elbow after a > minute or so, and I can't make the steering wheel controls do it; they > only go through the pre-set channels. Barf. > > JM > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
In article <41ebed1a_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester"
<richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: >Thanks for your post. I guess I can live with the stock stereo. It does >sound good but it bugs me that I had such a better one in my '93 Saturn >(aftermarket Kenwood head unit). Anyway, you mention your son has the same >car I do, can you ask him if he notices the missing ampersands? I just asked him and he says on his radio that there's something like a slash symbol and everything is run together, example SONNY/CHER. He agree's it's "different" but he's gotten used to it. He tries not to sweat the petty things. Even on Delphi receivers with large displays there's still considerable abbreviation. |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
In article <41ebed1a_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester"
<richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: >Thanks for your post. I guess I can live with the stock stereo. It does >sound good but it bugs me that I had such a better one in my '93 Saturn >(aftermarket Kenwood head unit). Anyway, you mention your son has the same >car I do, can you ask him if he notices the missing ampersands? I just asked him and he says on his radio that there's something like a slash symbol and everything is run together, example SONNY/CHER. He agree's it's "different" but he's gotten used to it. He tries not to sweat the petty things. Even on Delphi receivers with large displays there's still considerable abbreviation. |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Richard Forester (nospam) wrote: > So are you saying that you never noticed the "&" symbol missing before or > that they actually do indeed show up on your radio? > > I'll look for the backward ">" that you describe. I took another look. What I described as a backward ">" is not quite. Just take the > and rotate it about 120 degrees counter-clockwise (such that the upper side is now vertical. Or in other words, it is a "Y" with the upper left segment missing. This appears at the end of words all the time, like it is an exclamation point. Makes no sense to me at all. Maybe it is supposed to be a slash. Poor execution. And I'm pretty sure there is no ampersand on my display. Never noticed before. JM |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Richard Forester (nospam) wrote: > So are you saying that you never noticed the "&" symbol missing before or > that they actually do indeed show up on your radio? > > I'll look for the backward ">" that you describe. I took another look. What I described as a backward ">" is not quite. Just take the > and rotate it about 120 degrees counter-clockwise (such that the upper side is now vertical. Or in other words, it is a "Y" with the upper left segment missing. This appears at the end of words all the time, like it is an exclamation point. Makes no sense to me at all. Maybe it is supposed to be a slash. Poor execution. And I'm pretty sure there is no ampersand on my display. Never noticed before. JM |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
I have a aftermarket Alpine with the CD Text function and it does not show
the & as well.It is just a blank space. "Bubba" <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote in message news:spkou0tkr76vv1rrb4qtm52842mfn005p1@4ax.com... > In article <41ebed1a_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester" > <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: > > >Thanks for your post. I guess I can live with the stock stereo. It does > >sound good but it bugs me that I had such a better one in my '93 Saturn > >(aftermarket Kenwood head unit). Anyway, you mention your son has the same > >car I do, can you ask him if he notices the missing ampersands? > > I just asked him and he says on his radio that there's something like a > slash symbol and everything is run together, example SONNY/CHER. He > agree's it's "different" but he's gotten used to it. He tries not to sweat > the petty things. Even on Delphi receivers with large displays there's > still considerable abbreviation. > |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
I have a aftermarket Alpine with the CD Text function and it does not show
the & as well.It is just a blank space. "Bubba" <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote in message news:spkou0tkr76vv1rrb4qtm52842mfn005p1@4ax.com... > In article <41ebed1a_5@127.0.0.1> "Richard Forester" > <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> writes: > > >Thanks for your post. I guess I can live with the stock stereo. It does > >sound good but it bugs me that I had such a better one in my '93 Saturn > >(aftermarket Kenwood head unit). Anyway, you mention your son has the same > >car I do, can you ask him if he notices the missing ampersands? > > I just asked him and he says on his radio that there's something like a > slash symbol and everything is run together, example SONNY/CHER. He > agree's it's "different" but he's gotten used to it. He tries not to sweat > the petty things. Even on Delphi receivers with large displays there's > still considerable abbreviation. > |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Ah hah! Yes, I have seen this symbol as well and like you I have no idea
what they are trying to convey here. If it is an exclamation point, I agree that it is poor execution. It doesn't look like one at all! Richard <jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:1106067181.615779.251510@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > Richard Forester (nospam) wrote: >> So are you saying that you never noticed the "&" symbol missing > before or >> that they actually do indeed show up on your radio? >> >> I'll look for the backward ">" that you describe. > > I took another look. What I described as a backward ">" is not quite. > Just take the > and rotate it about 120 degrees counter-clockwise (such > that the upper side is now vertical. Or in other words, it is a "Y" > with the upper left segment missing. This appears at the end of words > all the time, like it is an exclamation point. Makes no sense to me at > all. Maybe it is supposed to be a slash. Poor execution. > > And I'm pretty sure there is no ampersand on my display. Never noticed > before. > > JM > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Ah hah! Yes, I have seen this symbol as well and like you I have no idea
what they are trying to convey here. If it is an exclamation point, I agree that it is poor execution. It doesn't look like one at all! Richard <jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:1106067181.615779.251510@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > Richard Forester (nospam) wrote: >> So are you saying that you never noticed the "&" symbol missing > before or >> that they actually do indeed show up on your radio? >> >> I'll look for the backward ">" that you describe. > > I took another look. What I described as a backward ">" is not quite. > Just take the > and rotate it about 120 degrees counter-clockwise (such > that the upper side is now vertical. Or in other words, it is a "Y" > with the upper left segment missing. This appears at the end of words > all the time, like it is an exclamation point. Makes no sense to me at > all. Maybe it is supposed to be a slash. Poor execution. > > And I'm pretty sure there is no ampersand on my display. Never noticed > before. > > JM > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Thanks to everyone who responded. I guess this is a more wide problem
than I thought and I feel better that it's not just my specific unit. I agree that it's not really a big deal. It's just a detail that makes the manufacturer come off looking like they don't know what they are doing. By the way, I found this page while doing some research on this topic. It seems that there is a some problem with the way the units parse XML. In Honda's case they are probably just ignoring the data and in this case it's interpreting the whole string as data. http://www.jeffsandquist.com/PermaLi...ae186c3ca.aspx Richard "Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> wrote in message news:41eb091b$1_5@127.0.0.1... >I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX which comes with the XM Satellite Radio >system. I love XM but the stereo itself leaves much to be desired. For >instance, this head unit doesn't display the ampersand sign (&) in the >titles of songs or artists for some reason. Does anyone else notice this? >If not, which model number does your stereo have in the lower right hand >corner? > > Is there any way to replace the stereo? I am guessing not since it also > displays the status of the heating/cooling system. > > Thanks, > Richard > > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ > Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
Thanks to everyone who responded. I guess this is a more wide problem
than I thought and I feel better that it's not just my specific unit. I agree that it's not really a big deal. It's just a detail that makes the manufacturer come off looking like they don't know what they are doing. By the way, I found this page while doing some research on this topic. It seems that there is a some problem with the way the units parse XML. In Honda's case they are probably just ignoring the data and in this case it's interpreting the whole string as data. http://www.jeffsandquist.com/PermaLi...ae186c3ca.aspx Richard "Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> wrote in message news:41eb091b$1_5@127.0.0.1... >I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX which comes with the XM Satellite Radio >system. I love XM but the stereo itself leaves much to be desired. For >instance, this head unit doesn't display the ampersand sign (&) in the >titles of songs or artists for some reason. Does anyone else notice this? >If not, which model number does your stereo have in the lower right hand >corner? > > Is there any way to replace the stereo? I am guessing not since it also > displays the status of the heating/cooling system. > > Thanks, > Richard > > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ > Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I have a 2004 Accord EX-L with XM but without nav. That symbol that you speak of, Richard, could signify the end of the single line (artist/song title) and that the name or song title has more letters than what the radio display is capable of showing. Just my theory. |
Re: XM satellite radio problem. Anyone see this?
I have a 2004 Accord EX-L with XM but without nav. That symbol that you speak of, Richard, could signify the end of the single line (artist/song title) and that the name or song title has more letters than what the radio display is capable of showing. Just my theory. |
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If you are talking about the broken "Y" symbol I'm not too sure of that. It
appears after titles that are as short as a few characters. Also, I find that titles that are longer than the display will hold in one line are merely truncated (another reason I don't like the stock stereo). Richard "Paul" <pstuart03@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1106163299.446044.236110@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com... > > I have a 2004 Accord EX-L with XM but without nav. That symbol that > you speak of, Richard, could signify the end of the single line > (artist/song title) and that the name or song title has more letters > than what the radio display is capable of showing. Just my theory. > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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