1995 X3 Excel window winder problem
 

Hi,

We have had this Excel since new with very few real issues.

The one that is causing me drama is the windows are becoming difficult to
wind down past about half way. I anticipate that the regulator may need some
work, meaning I need to remove the door trim to gain access.

I have been to the Hyundai tech site and printed the exploded view of the
door assembly and instructions for adjustment of the regulator. The winder
is meant to have a clip retaining it which can be removed with a
screwdriver. However I have tried in vain to do this and have had no success
at all.

I am not sure that the instructions are correct, can someone please shed
some light on this for me.

Thanks and cheers,

Ray

Re: 1995 X3 Excel window winder problem
 

The clip is exceptionally difficult to push out with a screwdriver. It's a
c-shaped clip behind the trim washer with the opening of the c facing the
knob on the winder. I remove these by putting a flat blade screwdriver
between the winder and trim ring going in from the knob end of the winder,
and prying back on the trim ring while turning the winder. This usually
results in the prying pressure pushing the clip off the winder.

But before you disassemble everything, look at the rubber window runs that
the window slides in. Make sure they're in good condition. I've seen
several of these get kinked up and prevent proper window operation. If
they're kinked up, you should replace them. If not, you might try
spraying some silicone spray in the groove to see if it helps the window
operate more smoothly.

Re: 1995 X3 Excel window winder problem
 

The clip is exceptionally difficult to push out with a screwdriver. It's a
c-shaped clip behind the trim washer with the opening of the c facing the
knob on the winder. I remove these by putting a flat blade screwdriver
between the winder and trim ring going in from the knob end of the winder,
and prying back on the trim ring while turning the winder. This usually
results in the prying pressure pushing the clip off the winder.

But before you disassemble everything, look at the rubber window runs that
the window slides in. Make sure they're in good condition. I've seen
several of these get kinked up and prevent proper window operation. If
they're kinked up, you should replace them. If not, you might try
spraying some silicone spray in the groove to see if it helps the window
operate more smoothly.

Re: 1995 X3 Excel window winder problem
 

Hi Hyundaitech,

In case you didn't get my thank you on Friday, thanks.

Had planned to have a go at it this weekend, but seems kids and wife had
other plans. Will try later in the week.

Ciao for now,

Ray
"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> The clip is exceptionally difficult to push out with a screwdriver. It's
> a
> c-shaped clip behind the trim washer with the opening of the c facing the
> knob on the winder. I remove these by putting a flat blade screwdriver
> between the winder and trim ring going in from the knob end of the winder,
> and prying back on the trim ring while turning the winder. This usually
> results in the prying pressure pushing the clip off the winder.
>
> But before you disassemble everything, look at the rubber window runs that
> the window slides in. Make sure they're in good condition. I've seen
> several of these get kinked up and prevent proper window operation. If
> they're kinked up, you should replace them. If not, you might try
> spraying some silicone spray in the groove to see if it helps the window
> operate more smoothly.
>

Re: 1995 X3 Excel window winder problem
 

Hi Hyundaitech,

In case you didn't get my thank you on Friday, thanks.

Had planned to have a go at it this weekend, but seems kids and wife had
other plans. Will try later in the week.

Ciao for now,

Ray
"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> The clip is exceptionally difficult to push out with a screwdriver. It's
> a
> c-shaped clip behind the trim washer with the opening of the c facing the
> knob on the winder. I remove these by putting a flat blade screwdriver
> between the winder and trim ring going in from the knob end of the winder,
> and prying back on the trim ring while turning the winder. This usually
> results in the prying pressure pushing the clip off the winder.
>
> But before you disassemble everything, look at the rubber window runs that
> the window slides in. Make sure they're in good condition. I've seen
> several of these get kinked up and prevent proper window operation. If
> they're kinked up, you should replace them. If not, you might try
> spraying some silicone spray in the groove to see if it helps the window
> operate more smoothly.
>

Re: 1995 X3 Excel window winder problem
 

Hi Hyundaitech,

Well, I tried putting silicone lube in the door window glass run and winding
the windows full travel up and down a few times, there's no major
improvement.

I finally got the little sucker off, what a stupid design!!

Having removed the door trim and door trim seal, I inspected the operation
of the regulator. The channel looks rather dry, but I guess the plastic
guide/glass bracket assy is meant to be that way. Nevertheless, I applied
some lube to the plastic guide & channel to see if it had a beneficial
effect - a minor improvement. It is now very easy to operate when opening,
but still requires quite a deal more effort to close.

Upon closer inspection of the door regulator operation, it seems there is
too much clearance in the guide running on the regulator channel i.e. the
plastic may be worn down. It appears to be allowing the glass to tilt
(forward when opening/backwards when closing) and causing undue friction
against the trailing edge of the guide on the channel when winding closed.

Is this likely to be the issue with this window, or is it just generally
getting old and tired?

We can live with it the way it is, but if the part is the cause and it isn't
frightfully expensive I'd like to replace it.
What is involved in doing this?
Can I just unbolt it and swap it out or is it more of an ordeal than that?
The online manual doesn't seem to cover this at all.

Sorry to make this drag out, but with only 64000k's on the clock we'd like
to keep it going properly a bit longer.

Thanks and cheers,

Ray

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> The clip is exceptionally difficult to push out with a screwdriver. It's
> a
> c-shaped clip behind the trim washer with the opening of the c facing the
> knob on the winder. I remove these by putting a flat blade screwdriver
> between the winder and trim ring going in from the knob end of the winder,
> and prying back on the trim ring while turning the winder. This usually
> results in the prying pressure pushing the clip off the winder.
>
> But before you disassemble everything, look at the rubber window runs that
> the window slides in. Make sure they're in good condition. I've seen
> several of these get kinked up and prevent proper window operation. If
> they're kinked up, you should replace them. If not, you might try
> spraying some silicone spray in the groove to see if it helps the window
> operate more smoothly.
>

Re: 1995 X3 Excel window winder problem
 

Hi Hyundaitech,

Well, I tried putting silicone lube in the door window glass run and winding
the windows full travel up and down a few times, there's no major
improvement.

I finally got the little sucker off, what a stupid design!!

Having removed the door trim and door trim seal, I inspected the operation
of the regulator. The channel looks rather dry, but I guess the plastic
guide/glass bracket assy is meant to be that way. Nevertheless, I applied
some lube to the plastic guide & channel to see if it had a beneficial
effect - a minor improvement. It is now very easy to operate when opening,
but still requires quite a deal more effort to close.

Upon closer inspection of the door regulator operation, it seems there is
too much clearance in the guide running on the regulator channel i.e. the
plastic may be worn down. It appears to be allowing the glass to tilt
(forward when opening/backwards when closing) and causing undue friction
against the trailing edge of the guide on the channel when winding closed.

Is this likely to be the issue with this window, or is it just generally
getting old and tired?

We can live with it the way it is, but if the part is the cause and it isn't
frightfully expensive I'd like to replace it.
What is involved in doing this?
Can I just unbolt it and swap it out or is it more of an ordeal than that?
The online manual doesn't seem to cover this at all.

Sorry to make this drag out, but with only 64000k's on the clock we'd like
to keep it going properly a bit longer.

Thanks and cheers,

Ray

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> The clip is exceptionally difficult to push out with a screwdriver. It's
> a
> c-shaped clip behind the trim washer with the opening of the c facing the
> knob on the winder. I remove these by putting a flat blade screwdriver
> between the winder and trim ring going in from the knob end of the winder,
> and prying back on the trim ring while turning the winder. This usually
> results in the prying pressure pushing the clip off the winder.
>
> But before you disassemble everything, look at the rubber window runs that
> the window slides in. Make sure they're in good condition. I've seen
> several of these get kinked up and prevent proper window operation. If
> they're kinked up, you should replace them. If not, you might try
> spraying some silicone spray in the groove to see if it helps the window
> operate more smoothly.
>