Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

I'll disagree on this point. I've not seen aftermarket plug wires that
compare to factory plug wires (for a fraction of the cost).

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> I'll disagree on this point. I've not seen aftermarket plug wires that
> compare to factory plug wires (for a fraction of the cost).
>

Well then, I guess we're at an impasse on this point. I maintain my
position. I've used aftermarket plug wires for decades and have never had a
set perform less than what came as OEM equipment. What are your
observations that cause you to feel this way?

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> I'll disagree on this point. I've not seen aftermarket plug wires that
> compare to factory plug wires (for a fraction of the cost).
>

Well then, I guess we're at an impasse on this point. I maintain my
position. I've used aftermarket plug wires for decades and have never had a
set perform less than what came as OEM equipment. What are your
observations that cause you to feel this way?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> I'll disagree on this point. I've not seen aftermarket plug wires that
> compare to factory plug wires (for a fraction of the cost).
>

Well then, I guess we're at an impasse on this point. I maintain my
position. I've used aftermarket plug wires for decades and have never had a
set perform less than what came as OEM equipment. What are your
observations that cause you to feel this way?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

Kinda difficult to carry in your own parts to the dealer when you want a
tune up, if you go to an independent there's a chance they will screw
something up just taking the engine apart to do the tune up.

Tom


"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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>
> "twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:6MVeg.80246$IZ2.15927@dukeread07...
>> How hard is it to get at the wires on the firewall side of the engine, on
> my
>> daughters 04 V6 the plenuim has to be removed to change them, when we do
> a
>> tune up I am going to have the rear wires changed just in case there's a
>> problem in the future, and the plenuim won't have to come off again.
>>
>> The dealer said a set of OEM wires was asbout $140.00
>>
>
> It'd be a cold day (you know where...) when I'd pay $140 for a set of plug
> wires. Dealers like to scare people with suggestions that other wires
> might
> not be as good, but the truth is that any good set of wires will be every
> bit as good as Hyundai wires. There's no magic in plug wires.
> Aftermarket
> wires will be 1/3 the cost of OEM wires.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

Kinda difficult to carry in your own parts to the dealer when you want a
tune up, if you go to an independent there's a chance they will screw
something up just taking the engine apart to do the tune up.

Tom


"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:d5c0$447c2c1f$45289739$550@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:6MVeg.80246$IZ2.15927@dukeread07...
>> How hard is it to get at the wires on the firewall side of the engine, on
> my
>> daughters 04 V6 the plenuim has to be removed to change them, when we do
> a
>> tune up I am going to have the rear wires changed just in case there's a
>> problem in the future, and the plenuim won't have to come off again.
>>
>> The dealer said a set of OEM wires was asbout $140.00
>>
>
> It'd be a cold day (you know where...) when I'd pay $140 for a set of plug
> wires. Dealers like to scare people with suggestions that other wires
> might
> not be as good, but the truth is that any good set of wires will be every
> bit as good as Hyundai wires. There's no magic in plug wires.
> Aftermarket
> wires will be 1/3 the cost of OEM wires.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

Kinda difficult to carry in your own parts to the dealer when you want a
tune up, if you go to an independent there's a chance they will screw
something up just taking the engine apart to do the tune up.

Tom


"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:d5c0$447c2c1f$45289739$550@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:6MVeg.80246$IZ2.15927@dukeread07...
>> How hard is it to get at the wires on the firewall side of the engine, on
> my
>> daughters 04 V6 the plenuim has to be removed to change them, when we do
> a
>> tune up I am going to have the rear wires changed just in case there's a
>> problem in the future, and the plenuim won't have to come off again.
>>
>> The dealer said a set of OEM wires was asbout $140.00
>>
>
> It'd be a cold day (you know where...) when I'd pay $140 for a set of plug
> wires. Dealers like to scare people with suggestions that other wires
> might
> not be as good, but the truth is that any good set of wires will be every
> bit as good as Hyundai wires. There's no magic in plug wires.
> Aftermarket
> wires will be 1/3 the cost of OEM wires.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

I've purchased several aftermarket wire sets myself with unhappy results
and have seen many customers' vehicles with new aftermarket sets that arc,
or have the ends pull off, etc. when I test the ignition system.

Back when Hyundai parts quality wasn't the best, I didn't mind using an
aftermarket part to get the car out the door, but even then, I refused to
use aftermarket wires because I'd seen so many problems with them. One of
the brands Brian mentioned was one I'd had trouble with.

In principle, I agree. There shouldn't be anything special about plug
wires. It's pretty simple technology. I think one of the problems was
that nearly every set I saw skimped on the insulator. Thinking back, this
may also mean they skimped on the conductor material as well. In any
event, the OP should be able to do better than Tom's $140. My dealer
doesn't even charge that much, and we're pretty high on our pricing.

The fact we disagree is no problem, Mike. It just means we've had
different experiences. I thought it was important to present mine, and
I'm also glad I've heard your experience as well as Brian's.

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

I've purchased several aftermarket wire sets myself with unhappy results
and have seen many customers' vehicles with new aftermarket sets that arc,
or have the ends pull off, etc. when I test the ignition system.

Back when Hyundai parts quality wasn't the best, I didn't mind using an
aftermarket part to get the car out the door, but even then, I refused to
use aftermarket wires because I'd seen so many problems with them. One of
the brands Brian mentioned was one I'd had trouble with.

In principle, I agree. There shouldn't be anything special about plug
wires. It's pretty simple technology. I think one of the problems was
that nearly every set I saw skimped on the insulator. Thinking back, this
may also mean they skimped on the conductor material as well. In any
event, the OP should be able to do better than Tom's $140. My dealer
doesn't even charge that much, and we're pretty high on our pricing.

The fact we disagree is no problem, Mike. It just means we've had
different experiences. I thought it was important to present mine, and
I'm also glad I've heard your experience as well as Brian's.

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

I've purchased several aftermarket wire sets myself with unhappy results
and have seen many customers' vehicles with new aftermarket sets that arc,
or have the ends pull off, etc. when I test the ignition system.

Back when Hyundai parts quality wasn't the best, I didn't mind using an
aftermarket part to get the car out the door, but even then, I refused to
use aftermarket wires because I'd seen so many problems with them. One of
the brands Brian mentioned was one I'd had trouble with.

In principle, I agree. There shouldn't be anything special about plug
wires. It's pretty simple technology. I think one of the problems was
that nearly every set I saw skimped on the insulator. Thinking back, this
may also mean they skimped on the conductor material as well. In any
event, the OP should be able to do better than Tom's $140. My dealer
doesn't even charge that much, and we're pretty high on our pricing.

The fact we disagree is no problem, Mike. It just means we've had
different experiences. I thought it was important to present mine, and
I'm also glad I've heard your experience as well as Brian's.

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Kinda difficult to carry in your own parts to the dealer when you want a
> tune up, if you go to an independent there's a chance they will screw
> something up just taking the engine apart to do the tune up.
>
> Tom
>

That's kind of a silly statement to make Tom. There are probably more
competent independents out there than there are competent dealer's shops.
Not probably - there are. One who makes a statement about "taking an engine
apart" to do a tune up should probably not be quite so critical of the folks
who really do understand engines. And no... I'm not an independent
mechanic. Not even a dealer mechanic.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:cl2fg.80278$IZ2.21233@dukeread07...
> Kinda difficult to carry in your own parts to the dealer when you want a
> tune up, if you go to an independent there's a chance they will screw
> something up just taking the engine apart to do the tune up.
>
> Tom
>

That's kind of a silly statement to make Tom. There are probably more
competent independents out there than there are competent dealer's shops.
Not probably - there are. One who makes a statement about "taking an engine
apart" to do a tune up should probably not be quite so critical of the folks
who really do understand engines. And no... I'm not an independent
mechanic. Not even a dealer mechanic.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:cl2fg.80278$IZ2.21233@dukeread07...
> Kinda difficult to carry in your own parts to the dealer when you want a
> tune up, if you go to an independent there's a chance they will screw
> something up just taking the engine apart to do the tune up.
>
> Tom
>

That's kind of a silly statement to make Tom. There are probably more
competent independents out there than there are competent dealer's shops.
Not probably - there are. One who makes a statement about "taking an engine
apart" to do a tune up should probably not be quite so critical of the folks
who really do understand engines. And no... I'm not an independent
mechanic. Not even a dealer mechanic.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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>
> The fact we disagree is no problem, Mike. It just means we've had
> different experiences. I thought it was important to present mine, and
> I'm also glad I've heard your experience as well as Brian's.
>

I appreciate you sharing your reasons for disliking them. As you say - our
experiences differ and that's what forms our preferences. I always like to
hear why a guy feels a particular way about an alternative. You never know
when you'll learn something - or share a piece of knowledge.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2000 Sonata V6
 

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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>
> The fact we disagree is no problem, Mike. It just means we've had
> different experiences. I thought it was important to present mine, and
> I'm also glad I've heard your experience as well as Brian's.
>

I appreciate you sharing your reasons for disliking them. As you say - our
experiences differ and that's what forms our preferences. I always like to
hear why a guy feels a particular way about an alternative. You never know
when you'll learn something - or share a piece of knowledge.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net