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Brian Matthews 07-17-2007 04:12 PM

2004 Sonata question
 
I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My
questions are this;

1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic flush
and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?

2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type
of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me any
tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
miles.

3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time as the
tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this?

Thanks to any and all help.

Brian

hyundaitech 07-17-2007 07:09 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
1. Make sure your mechanic uses only SP-III fluid. Other than that, your
mechanic needs only to not mess up the job.

2. Michelin tends to be good for treadwear (with the exception of the
Energy MXV4+ you probably have on your car now). www.tirerack.com has a
significant section with customer reviews.

3. Coolant service is straightforward.


Brian Matthews 07-17-2007 07:30 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:09:00 -0400, "hyundaitech"
<notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:

>1. Make sure your mechanic uses only SP-III fluid. Other than that, your
>mechanic needs only to not mess up the job.
>
>2. Michelin tends to be good for treadwear (with the exception of the
>Energy MXV4+ you probably have on your car now). www.tirerack.com has a
>significant section with customer reviews.
>
>3. Coolant service is straightforward.



Thank You. Off hand, do you know which model Michelin I should ask
for?

Also, the coolant needs to be a certain type. One for an aluminum
block. I read which coolant and Tranny fluid to use so I should be
good. My mechanic is excellent. I've been going to him for 20 years,
he gives me cheaper prices than the average customer because he knows
he can count on me to come back. He also lets me into the garage to
watch the work, something that's unheard of in this day and age.

Again, thank you. It really is so nice of you to help people out, even
with the simplest questions.

Brian

Brian Matthews 07-17-2007 07:36 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:09:00 -0400, "hyundaitech"
<notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:

>1. Make sure your mechanic uses only SP-III fluid. Other than that, your
>mechanic needs only to not mess up the job.
>
>2. Michelin tends to be good for treadwear (with the exception of the
>Energy MXV4+ you probably have on your car now). www.tirerack.com has a
>significant section with customer reviews.
>
>3. Coolant service is straightforward.



Additional;

You hit it right on the head. The stock tires ARE "MXV4 Plus" but
they don't say "Energy" anywhere on the tire.

Brian

hyundaitech 07-17-2007 08:33 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
I'm not much of an expert on tires. You'd probably do better speaking to
someone at the tire store for specific recommnedations.


Edwin Pawlowski 07-17-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 

"Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message
news:r98q93tf01eh3efhpkngsa8uas2a40kcbs@4ax.com...
>I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
> transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My
> questions are this;
>
> 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic flush
> and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?


I'm curious If your mechanic is so good and cheap, why do you go to the
dealer? I've have that good mechanic take a look at the fluid to see if it
really is dirty. Most are good for 50k or more with no problems. What is
the interval suggested by Hyundai? Some shops try to push extra services
you don't really need.



southluke 07-17-2007 10:46 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 

> GUEST wrote:
> I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
> transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change.

My
> questions are this;
>
> 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic

flush
> and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?
>
> 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
> rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good

brand/type
> of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me

any
> tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
> miles.
>
> 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time as

the
> tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this?
>
> Thanks to any and all help.
>
> Brian


I think your dealer is lying and trying to make extra
money from a sucker. The manual says 100,000 for transmission oil
change. If your oil is dirty at 30,000 miles, the transmission has
problems and should be replaced under warranty. Call Hyundai America
and report this crooked dealer.


Brian Matthews 07-18-2007 12:47 AM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:41:26 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:

>
>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message
>news:r98q93tf01eh3efhpkngsa8uas2a40kcbs@4ax.com.. .
>>I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
>> transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My
>> questions are this;
>>
>> 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic flush
>> and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?

>
>I'm curious If your mechanic is so good and cheap, why do you go to the
>dealer? I've have that good mechanic take a look at the fluid to see if it
>really is dirty. Most are good for 50k or more with no problems. What is
>the interval suggested by Hyundai? Some shops try to push extra services
>you don't really need.
>



Yes, I always go to the dealer for oil changes.

My book says inspect the tranny fluid every 30,000 miles and to change
every 60,000 miles.

And when I went to the dealer and they told me my pads and rotors were
shot I refused their outrageous price. It was like $1300 for the
brakes, tranny fluid, oil and coolant. I ended up getting the brakes
done, with parts from the dealer, for under $500. My mechanic pointed
out to me, when the car was on the rack, I needed new tires. He said
he could get the stock ones for me if I wanted. I said no way, the car
only has 30k on it and I had them rotated frequently.

As for my mechanic? He's a professional and keeps detailed records for
all the cars he works on. And I'm going to keep the receipts for all
the maintenance he does. He's less than a mile away, compared to the
Hyundia dealer, about 15 miles away. But I will NOT take a chance on
my warranty.

I only started taking this new car (2004, 30,000 miles) to my local
mechanic since it needed more than an oil changes. It hasn't been in
for warranty work and the only maintenance I've needed so far is oil
changes and wiper blades. (other than the brakes I mentioned)

Brian

Leonardo 07-18-2007 09:15 AM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
Brian Matthews wrote:

>
> 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
> rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type
> of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me any
> tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
> miles.


I have over 60k on the Bridgestone Turanza LS tires. IMHO...well worth
every penny I paid.

Perform well in all conditions, good handling, pretty quiet, and 'no
hydroplaning'

L.

Edwin Pawlowski 07-18-2007 09:19 AM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 

"Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message
> Yes, I always go to the dealer for oil changes.


> As for my mechanic? He's a professional and keeps detailed records for
> all the cars he works on. And I'm going to keep the receipts for all
> the maintenance he does. He's less than a mile away, compared to the
> Hyundia dealer, about 15 miles away. But I will NOT take a chance on
> my warranty.


If he (and you) are keeping records of the maintenance, there is no chance
taken. Most of the time, dealers are more expensive and some try to sell
work that in not needed. Some independent shops do as well, of curse so
when you find a trustworthy shop, stick with them.

Dealers are usually better for some specific to brand problems because they
see them all the time and have training more on that brand. Routine work,
as you have found, can be d one more economically elsewhere in most cases.






Brian Matthews 07-18-2007 02:10 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:15:25 -0500, Leonardo <sss@centurytel.net>
wrote:

>Brian Matthews wrote:
>
>>
>> 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
>> rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type
>> of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me any
>> tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
>> miles.

>
>I have over 60k on the Bridgestone Turanza LS tires. IMHO...well worth
>every penny I paid.
>
>Perform well in all conditions, good handling, pretty quiet, and 'no
>hydroplaning'
>
>L.



My mechanic recommends Good Year Assurance Triple Tread tires. these
are an 80,000 mile tire. The complete package, including hazard care,
is $525.00. Seems like a lot but I want good tires and I read good
reviews on these tires. How much were your Bridgestone tires?

Brian

southluke 07-18-2007 10:51 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 

> GUEST wrote:
> I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
> transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change.

My
> questions are this;
>
> 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic

flush
> and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?
>
> 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
> rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good

brand/type
> of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me

any
> tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
> miles.
>
> 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time as

the
> tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this?
>
> Thanks to any and all help.
>
> Brian


$525 is not a bad price for the Goodyear TriplTred's.
Sam's Club price is $503.12 plus tax. Includes road hazard, balance,
etc. I think they are worth the money.


Leonardo 07-19-2007 07:39 AM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
Brian Matthews wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:15:25 -0500, Leonardo <sss@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Brian Matthews wrote:
>>
>>> 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
>>> rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type
>>> of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me any
>>> tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
>>> miles.

>> I have over 60k on the Bridgestone Turanza LS tires. IMHO...well worth
>> every penny I paid.
>>
>> Perform well in all conditions, good handling, pretty quiet, and 'no
>> hydroplaning'
>>
>> L.

>
>
> My mechanic recommends Good Year Assurance Triple Tread tires. these
> are an 80,000 mile tire. The complete package, including hazard care,
> is $525.00. Seems like a lot but I want good tires and I read good
> reviews on these tires. How much were your Bridgestone tires?
>
> Brian


Sorry, have them for over 4 years already. Don't remember what they cost.

L.



Brian Matthews 07-19-2007 11:38 AM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:51:14 -0500,
luke.l.talley@boeing-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (southluke) wrote:

>
> > GUEST wrote:
> > I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
> > transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change.

>My
> > questions are this;
> >
> > 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic

>flush
> > and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?
> >
> > 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
> > rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good

>brand/type
> > of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me

>any
> > tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
> > miles.
> >
> > 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time as

>the
> > tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this?
> >
> > Thanks to any and all help.
> >
> > Brian

>
>$525 is not a bad price for the Goodyear TriplTred's.
>Sam's Club price is $503.12 plus tax. Includes road hazard, balance,
>etc. I think they are worth the money.



Just got home. My mechanic installed all 4 tires, checked the
alignment, balanced the tires, flushed the coolant and tranny fluid
all for $675.00. Much cheaper than a dealer. The tires come with the
road hazard and free rotation. Plus, once a year, I get free
balancing.

Brian

Steve R. 07-21-2007 01:40 PM

Re: 2004 Sonata question
 
Difference in dealers here I believe. My Hyundai shop recommends a tranny
flush every 30k miles. Just had one done on the wife's Nissan/Mercury
mini-van, $120 parts/labor/tax. My 06 Sonata LX will get the same at 30k...

Steve

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"southluke" <luke.l.talley@boeing-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:qYWdnTcfrYqF4gDbnZ2dnUVZ_oq3nZ2d@giganews.com ...
>
> > GUEST wrote:
> > I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
> > transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change.

> My
> > questions are this;
> >
> > 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic

> flush
> > and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?
> >
> > 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
> > rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good

> brand/type
> > of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me

> any
> > tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
> > miles.
> >
> > 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time as

> the
> > tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this?
> >
> > Thanks to any and all help.
> >
> > Brian

>
> I think your dealer is lying and trying to make extra
> money from a sucker. The manual says 100,000 for transmission oil
> change. If your oil is dirty at 30,000 miles, the transmission has
> problems and should be replaced under warranty. Call Hyundai America
> and report this crooked dealer.
>
>






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