Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> FGionni wrote:
> > "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> > news:JhDeg.9121$lb.827252@news1.epix.net...
> >
> >>Well, had my first real chance to use the AC in my Sonata yesterday.
> >>The temps were in the upper 80s with reasonably high humidity (I don't
> >>know what it was, but it felt sticky yesterday in northern PA).
> >>
> >>I'd say the AC performance is consistent with the heater performance in
> >>the winter, which is marginal. I ran the AC for nearly 40 minutes
> >>straight and never could take the temp control below the coolest
> >>setting. And I hard to run the fan on speed 2 most of the time to keep
> >>it moderately cool. Compared to my Chrysler minivan and Chevy truck,
> >>this is weak performance. Both will cool the vehicles nicely within 15
> >>minutes with the fans set on their low setting. And after about 15
> >>minutes (I'm talking a similar upper 80s day, not 100 or something
> >>extreme like that), I have to start moving the temperature lever up off
> >>the stop to keep from getting too cold.
> >>
> >>So, I still think that Hyundai needs to consider beefing up the HVAC
> >>system in the G6 Sonata. I can't imagine driving across Nevada with
> >>temps above 110 as I did last summer in a Chrylser T&C rental. The van
> >>kept us nicely cool on low fan speed and the coolest temp setting. I
> >>don't think the Hyundai would. Maybe with the fan speed on 4, but that
> >>is pretty loud and would get tiresome on a long trip.
> >>
> >>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?
> >>
> >>
> >>Matt
> >
> >
> > I have to agree with you. Been all over the Northeast this weekend.
> > Temperature were in the lower 80s. The AC was barely adequate.
> >
> >
>
> Maybe it's the humidity. I just saw the evening news that they said the
> dewpoint was 70 with temp of 91. More of the same, maybe even worse,
> tomorrow...
>
>
> Matt

I read hyundaitech's post and he was mentioning something about stuffing a
thermometer in the vent grille and expecting to see about 45 degrees for a
proper cooling. The temperature coming out of the vents was definitely not
45, not even 50. After all the temperature comfort level is subjective. I
like it cooler than others. The Camry seems to cool more to my taste.
I will test the temperature of the air coming out of the vents at various
ambient temperature.

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

FGionni wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:I0Meg.9138$lb.827970@news1.epix.net...
>
>>FGionni wrote:
>>
>>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>news:JhDeg.9121$lb.827252@news1.epix.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, had my first real chance to use the AC in my Sonata yesterday.
>>>>The temps were in the upper 80s with reasonably high humidity (I don't
>>>>know what it was, but it felt sticky yesterday in northern PA).
>>>>
>>>>I'd say the AC performance is consistent with the heater performance in
>>>>the winter, which is marginal. I ran the AC for nearly 40 minutes
>>>>straight and never could take the temp control below the coolest
>>>>setting. And I hard to run the fan on speed 2 most of the time to keep
>>>>it moderately cool. Compared to my Chrysler minivan and Chevy truck,
>>>>this is weak performance. Both will cool the vehicles nicely within 15
>>>>minutes with the fans set on their low setting. And after about 15
>>>>minutes (I'm talking a similar upper 80s day, not 100 or something
>>>>extreme like that), I have to start moving the temperature lever up off
>>>>the stop to keep from getting too cold.
>>>>
>>>>So, I still think that Hyundai needs to consider beefing up the HVAC
>>>>system in the G6 Sonata. I can't imagine driving across Nevada with
>>>>temps above 110 as I did last summer in a Chrylser T&C rental. The van
>>>>kept us nicely cool on low fan speed and the coolest temp setting. I
>>>>don't think the Hyundai would. Maybe with the fan speed on 4, but that
>>>>is pretty loud and would get tiresome on a long trip.
>>>>
>>>>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree with you. Been all over the Northeast this weekend.
>>>Temperature were in the lower 80s. The AC was barely adequate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Maybe it's the humidity. I just saw the evening news that they said the
>>dewpoint was 70 with temp of 91. More of the same, maybe even worse,
>>tomorrow...
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I read hyundaitech's post and he was mentioning something about stuffing a
> thermometer in the vent grille and expecting to see about 45 degrees for a
> proper cooling. The temperature coming out of the vents was definitely not
> 45, not even 50. After all the temperature comfort level is subjective. I
> like it cooler than others. The Camry seems to cool more to my taste.
> I will test the temperature of the air coming out of the vents at various
> ambient temperature.

I don't have a decent thermometer that isn't affixed to my house, but
that is certainly the first thing to check. I was surprised that
hyundaitech gave an absolute temp value like that as other cars I've
owned typically gave a delta value from ambient, and this is more
reasonable from a thermodynamics perspective. Usually, you expect to
see something like a drop of 40 degrees from ambient. So, on a 90
degree day you'd expect to see 50, but on an 80 degree day you'd expect
to see 40. Likewise, anthing less than 60 on a 100 degree day would be
considered OK.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

FGionni wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:I0Meg.9138$lb.827970@news1.epix.net...
>
>>FGionni wrote:
>>
>>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>news:JhDeg.9121$lb.827252@news1.epix.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, had my first real chance to use the AC in my Sonata yesterday.
>>>>The temps were in the upper 80s with reasonably high humidity (I don't
>>>>know what it was, but it felt sticky yesterday in northern PA).
>>>>
>>>>I'd say the AC performance is consistent with the heater performance in
>>>>the winter, which is marginal. I ran the AC for nearly 40 minutes
>>>>straight and never could take the temp control below the coolest
>>>>setting. And I hard to run the fan on speed 2 most of the time to keep
>>>>it moderately cool. Compared to my Chrysler minivan and Chevy truck,
>>>>this is weak performance. Both will cool the vehicles nicely within 15
>>>>minutes with the fans set on their low setting. And after about 15
>>>>minutes (I'm talking a similar upper 80s day, not 100 or something
>>>>extreme like that), I have to start moving the temperature lever up off
>>>>the stop to keep from getting too cold.
>>>>
>>>>So, I still think that Hyundai needs to consider beefing up the HVAC
>>>>system in the G6 Sonata. I can't imagine driving across Nevada with
>>>>temps above 110 as I did last summer in a Chrylser T&C rental. The van
>>>>kept us nicely cool on low fan speed and the coolest temp setting. I
>>>>don't think the Hyundai would. Maybe with the fan speed on 4, but that
>>>>is pretty loud and would get tiresome on a long trip.
>>>>
>>>>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree with you. Been all over the Northeast this weekend.
>>>Temperature were in the lower 80s. The AC was barely adequate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Maybe it's the humidity. I just saw the evening news that they said the
>>dewpoint was 70 with temp of 91. More of the same, maybe even worse,
>>tomorrow...
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I read hyundaitech's post and he was mentioning something about stuffing a
> thermometer in the vent grille and expecting to see about 45 degrees for a
> proper cooling. The temperature coming out of the vents was definitely not
> 45, not even 50. After all the temperature comfort level is subjective. I
> like it cooler than others. The Camry seems to cool more to my taste.
> I will test the temperature of the air coming out of the vents at various
> ambient temperature.

I don't have a decent thermometer that isn't affixed to my house, but
that is certainly the first thing to check. I was surprised that
hyundaitech gave an absolute temp value like that as other cars I've
owned typically gave a delta value from ambient, and this is more
reasonable from a thermodynamics perspective. Usually, you expect to
see something like a drop of 40 degrees from ambient. So, on a 90
degree day you'd expect to see 50, but on an 80 degree day you'd expect
to see 40. Likewise, anthing less than 60 on a 100 degree day would be
considered OK.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

FGionni wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:I0Meg.9138$lb.827970@news1.epix.net...
>
>>FGionni wrote:
>>
>>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>news:JhDeg.9121$lb.827252@news1.epix.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, had my first real chance to use the AC in my Sonata yesterday.
>>>>The temps were in the upper 80s with reasonably high humidity (I don't
>>>>know what it was, but it felt sticky yesterday in northern PA).
>>>>
>>>>I'd say the AC performance is consistent with the heater performance in
>>>>the winter, which is marginal. I ran the AC for nearly 40 minutes
>>>>straight and never could take the temp control below the coolest
>>>>setting. And I hard to run the fan on speed 2 most of the time to keep
>>>>it moderately cool. Compared to my Chrysler minivan and Chevy truck,
>>>>this is weak performance. Both will cool the vehicles nicely within 15
>>>>minutes with the fans set on their low setting. And after about 15
>>>>minutes (I'm talking a similar upper 80s day, not 100 or something
>>>>extreme like that), I have to start moving the temperature lever up off
>>>>the stop to keep from getting too cold.
>>>>
>>>>So, I still think that Hyundai needs to consider beefing up the HVAC
>>>>system in the G6 Sonata. I can't imagine driving across Nevada with
>>>>temps above 110 as I did last summer in a Chrylser T&C rental. The van
>>>>kept us nicely cool on low fan speed and the coolest temp setting. I
>>>>don't think the Hyundai would. Maybe with the fan speed on 4, but that
>>>>is pretty loud and would get tiresome on a long trip.
>>>>
>>>>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree with you. Been all over the Northeast this weekend.
>>>Temperature were in the lower 80s. The AC was barely adequate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Maybe it's the humidity. I just saw the evening news that they said the
>>dewpoint was 70 with temp of 91. More of the same, maybe even worse,
>>tomorrow...
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I read hyundaitech's post and he was mentioning something about stuffing a
> thermometer in the vent grille and expecting to see about 45 degrees for a
> proper cooling. The temperature coming out of the vents was definitely not
> 45, not even 50. After all the temperature comfort level is subjective. I
> like it cooler than others. The Camry seems to cool more to my taste.
> I will test the temperature of the air coming out of the vents at various
> ambient temperature.

I don't have a decent thermometer that isn't affixed to my house, but
that is certainly the first thing to check. I was surprised that
hyundaitech gave an absolute temp value like that as other cars I've
owned typically gave a delta value from ambient, and this is more
reasonable from a thermodynamics perspective. Usually, you expect to
see something like a drop of 40 degrees from ambient. So, on a 90
degree day you'd expect to see 50, but on an 80 degree day you'd expect
to see 40. Likewise, anthing less than 60 on a 100 degree day would be
considered OK.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:10:49 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:


>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?

Are you saying the air temperature is not real cold, or are you saying that
the fan doesn't put out enough air volume?

I live in the deep South, and we have had plenty of 90+ heat and high
humidity. I run my AC fan on speed "2", and the compressor to the coldest
setting to cool off the hot car. It cools off within 10 minutes or so. I
then have to back off to speed "1" fan and medium compressor to prevent my
bare arms from getting too chilly.

Bottom line, the AC is plenty powerful for me, even in extreme heart and
humidity.
--
Bob

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:10:49 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:


>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?

Are you saying the air temperature is not real cold, or are you saying that
the fan doesn't put out enough air volume?

I live in the deep South, and we have had plenty of 90+ heat and high
humidity. I run my AC fan on speed "2", and the compressor to the coldest
setting to cool off the hot car. It cools off within 10 minutes or so. I
then have to back off to speed "1" fan and medium compressor to prevent my
bare arms from getting too chilly.

Bottom line, the AC is plenty powerful for me, even in extreme heart and
humidity.
--
Bob

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:10:49 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:


>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?

Are you saying the air temperature is not real cold, or are you saying that
the fan doesn't put out enough air volume?

I live in the deep South, and we have had plenty of 90+ heat and high
humidity. I run my AC fan on speed "2", and the compressor to the coldest
setting to cool off the hot car. It cools off within 10 minutes or so. I
then have to back off to speed "1" fan and medium compressor to prevent my
bare arms from getting too chilly.

Bottom line, the AC is plenty powerful for me, even in extreme heart and
humidity.
--
Bob

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:10:49 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?
>
>
> Are you saying the air temperature is not real cold, or are you saying that
> the fan doesn't put out enough air volume?

The air temp doesn't seem all that cold, but I haven't checked it with a
thermometer.

> I live in the deep South, and we have had plenty of 90+ heat and high
> humidity. I run my AC fan on speed "2", and the compressor to the coldest
> setting to cool off the hot car. It cools off within 10 minutes or so. I
> then have to back off to speed "1" fan and medium compressor to prevent my
> bare arms from getting too chilly.

Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest temp
setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT of 86
and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to being cold.
I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.

Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has probably
2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.

I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the outlet.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:10:49 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?
>
>
> Are you saying the air temperature is not real cold, or are you saying that
> the fan doesn't put out enough air volume?

The air temp doesn't seem all that cold, but I haven't checked it with a
thermometer.

> I live in the deep South, and we have had plenty of 90+ heat and high
> humidity. I run my AC fan on speed "2", and the compressor to the coldest
> setting to cool off the hot car. It cools off within 10 minutes or so. I
> then have to back off to speed "1" fan and medium compressor to prevent my
> bare arms from getting too chilly.

Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest temp
setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT of 86
and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to being cold.
I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.

Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has probably
2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.

I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the outlet.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:10:49 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>What have others experienced with their 2006 Sonata AC?
>
>
> Are you saying the air temperature is not real cold, or are you saying that
> the fan doesn't put out enough air volume?

The air temp doesn't seem all that cold, but I haven't checked it with a
thermometer.

> I live in the deep South, and we have had plenty of 90+ heat and high
> humidity. I run my AC fan on speed "2", and the compressor to the coldest
> setting to cool off the hot car. It cools off within 10 minutes or so. I
> then have to back off to speed "1" fan and medium compressor to prevent my
> bare arms from getting too chilly.

Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest temp
setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT of 86
and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to being cold.
I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.

Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has probably
2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.

I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the outlet.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:DSYeg.9151$lb.828637@news1.epix.net:

> Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest
> temp setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT
> of 86 and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to
> being cold.
> I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.
>
> Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
> The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has
> probably 2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.
>
> I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the
> outlet.
>
>
> Matt
>

I just checked mine here at work with one of the calibrated thermometers
the HVAC guys use. The ambient is 86F and the output was running between
38F and 40F when the compressor was on.

That was driving about 30MPH with the temp. setting at the coldest and the
fan speed on "2". I didn't get enough time to try it on "1" (the slowest
setting), but I expect it would be a bit cooler since the air has more time
to cool.

Not extemely scientific, I admit, but I would guess that you should be in a
similar neighborhood.

Eric

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:DSYeg.9151$lb.828637@news1.epix.net:

> Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest
> temp setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT
> of 86 and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to
> being cold.
> I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.
>
> Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
> The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has
> probably 2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.
>
> I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the
> outlet.
>
>
> Matt
>

I just checked mine here at work with one of the calibrated thermometers
the HVAC guys use. The ambient is 86F and the output was running between
38F and 40F when the compressor was on.

That was driving about 30MPH with the temp. setting at the coldest and the
fan speed on "2". I didn't get enough time to try it on "1" (the slowest
setting), but I expect it would be a bit cooler since the air has more time
to cool.

Not extemely scientific, I admit, but I would guess that you should be in a
similar neighborhood.

Eric

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:DSYeg.9151$lb.828637@news1.epix.net:

> Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest
> temp setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT
> of 86 and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to
> being cold.
> I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.
>
> Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
> The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has
> probably 2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.
>
> I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the
> outlet.
>
>
> Matt
>

I just checked mine here at work with one of the calibrated thermometers
the HVAC guys use. The ambient is 86F and the output was running between
38F and 40F when the compressor was on.

That was driving about 30MPH with the temp. setting at the coldest and the
fan speed on "2". I didn't get enough time to try it on "1" (the slowest
setting), but I expect it would be a bit cooler since the air has more time
to cool.

Not extemely scientific, I admit, but I would guess that you should be in a
similar neighborhood.

Eric

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:DSYeg.9151$lb.828637@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest
>>temp setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT
>>of 86 and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to
>>being cold.
>> I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.
>>
>>Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
>>The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has
>>probably 2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.
>>
>>I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the
>>outlet.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>>
>
>
> I just checked mine here at work with one of the calibrated thermometers
> the HVAC guys use. The ambient is 86F and the output was running between
> 38F and 40F when the compressor was on.
>
> That was driving about 30MPH with the temp. setting at the coldest and the
> fan speed on "2". I didn't get enough time to try it on "1" (the slowest
> setting), but I expect it would be a bit cooler since the air has more time
> to cool.
>
> Not extemely scientific, I admit, but I would guess that you should be in a
> similar neighborhood.

I think that is about as scientific as one needs to get for a car AC
test. Now if I just had a decent thermometer... :-)

Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata AC
 

Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:DSYeg.9151$lb.828637@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Wow, my Sonata is nothing like this. I ran it steady on the lowest
>>temp setting and fan speed of 1 for 40 minutes of driving with an OAT
>>of 86 and humidity of probably 70% RH and never got even close to
>>being cold.
>> I wasn't even cool enough to drink my coffee without sweating.
>>
>>Your description sounds like my minivan and truck, but not my Sonata.
>>The minivan does have the rear HVAC unit, but then again it has
>>probably 2-3 times the interior volume to cool as the Sonata.
>>
>>I'll have to rustle up a thermometer and check the air temp at the
>>outlet.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>>
>
>
> I just checked mine here at work with one of the calibrated thermometers
> the HVAC guys use. The ambient is 86F and the output was running between
> 38F and 40F when the compressor was on.
>
> That was driving about 30MPH with the temp. setting at the coldest and the
> fan speed on "2". I didn't get enough time to try it on "1" (the slowest
> setting), but I expect it would be a bit cooler since the air has more time
> to cool.
>
> Not extemely scientific, I admit, but I would guess that you should be in a
> similar neighborhood.

I think that is about as scientific as one needs to get for a car AC
test. Now if I just had a decent thermometer... :-)

Matt