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Eric G. 07-11-2006 04:40 PM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
"OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1152634526.592834.57540@75g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com:

> Eric G. wrote:
>> "OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in news:1152624753.804086.121650
>> @s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Just replaced the stock stereo w/ a Kenwood head unit. Everything
>> > is great except AM reception. FM is good, but that could be because
>> > I'm so close to the transmitters.
>> >
>> > Is there an amp on the antenna I need to connect to the head unit?
>> > If so, which factory wire is it? Thanks for any help anybody can
>> > give.

>>
>> Where did you find a head unit that would fit the Sonata? Or did you
>> nake modifications?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eric

>
> I bought the head unit from Crutchfield; they supplied the wire
> harness (which is actually one used by Ford, but fits '06 Sonata);
> Cardomain has the Scosche Dash Kit, which they claimed was "factory
> color and texture," but which was actually black and didn't match
> texture. Still, after install, I'm happy with it. The kit can be used
> either as double-din or single-din with a pocket. Metra also makes a
> dash kit; I'm not sure if it's higher or lower quality.
>
> The only problem with harness is that it omits 4 wires. A brown and
> green at pins 18 & 19, which are the steering wheel controls. I used
> Pac Audio's steering wheel adapter to work around that. There are 2
> other wires, which I assume may be for an amp for the in-glass
> antenna. Not sure; I tried to connect the antenna power wire from the
> Kenwood HU to them, but it didn't help my non-existent AM reception.
>


Could the extra wires be for the facotry sub-woofer? Just a thought.

Eric


Bob 07-11-2006 11:43 PM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 

"OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> hyundaitech wrote:
>> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've seen go
>> inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like this on the
>> vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and install.

>
> Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
> diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to locate
> are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the harnesses
> omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the factory harness
> are for.
>
> Thanks


The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it for
sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio is on. If
the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing you'll hear is what
leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is able to do that more easily
than HF (AM).



Bob 07-11-2006 11:43 PM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 

"OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> hyundaitech wrote:
>> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've seen go
>> inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like this on the
>> vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and install.

>
> Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
> diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to locate
> are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the harnesses
> omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the factory harness
> are for.
>
> Thanks


The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it for
sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio is on. If
the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing you'll hear is what
leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is able to do that more easily
than HF (AM).



Bob 07-11-2006 11:43 PM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 

"OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> hyundaitech wrote:
>> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've seen go
>> inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like this on the
>> vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and install.

>
> Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
> diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to locate
> are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the harnesses
> omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the factory harness
> are for.
>
> Thanks


The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it for
sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio is on. If
the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing you'll hear is what
leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is able to do that more easily
than HF (AM).



Shadow 07-12-2006 05:49 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
If they still use the same plugs, its the wire above the black ground wire
on
the factory harness, it may be grey(i think) connect the blue wire from the
aftermarket H/U to this wire, if it doesnt have a blue wire use the blue
wire
with a white stripe (it will have this wire)




U97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152624753.804086.121650@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Just replaced the stock stereo w/ a Kenwood head unit. Everything is
> great except AM reception. FM is good, but that could be because I'm so
> close to the transmitters.
>
> Is there an amp on the antenna I need to connect to the head unit? If
> so, which factory wire is it? Thanks for any help anybody can give.
>




Shadow 07-12-2006 05:49 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
If they still use the same plugs, its the wire above the black ground wire
on
the factory harness, it may be grey(i think) connect the blue wire from the
aftermarket H/U to this wire, if it doesnt have a blue wire use the blue
wire
with a white stripe (it will have this wire)




U97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152624753.804086.121650@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Just replaced the stock stereo w/ a Kenwood head unit. Everything is
> great except AM reception. FM is good, but that could be because I'm so
> close to the transmitters.
>
> Is there an amp on the antenna I need to connect to the head unit? If
> so, which factory wire is it? Thanks for any help anybody can give.
>




Shadow 07-12-2006 05:49 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
If they still use the same plugs, its the wire above the black ground wire
on
the factory harness, it may be grey(i think) connect the blue wire from the
aftermarket H/U to this wire, if it doesnt have a blue wire use the blue
wire
with a white stripe (it will have this wire)




U97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152624753.804086.121650@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Just replaced the stock stereo w/ a Kenwood head unit. Everything is
> great except AM reception. FM is good, but that could be because I'm so
> close to the transmitters.
>
> Is there an amp on the antenna I need to connect to the head unit? If
> so, which factory wire is it? Thanks for any help anybody can give.
>




OU97CPA 07-12-2006 11:00 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 

Bob wrote:
> "OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > hyundaitech wrote:
> >> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've seen go
> >> inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like this on the
> >> vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and install.

> >
> > Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
> > diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to locate
> > are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the harnesses
> > omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the factory harness
> > are for.
> >
> > Thanks

>
> The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it for
> sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio is on. If
> the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing you'll hear is what
> leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is able to do that more easily
> than HF (AM).


Pin 24 it is. Connected it to the wire from my head unit, and I have
radio again! Thanks for the help


OU97CPA 07-12-2006 11:00 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 

Bob wrote:
> "OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > hyundaitech wrote:
> >> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've seen go
> >> inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like this on the
> >> vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and install.

> >
> > Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
> > diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to locate
> > are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the harnesses
> > omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the factory harness
> > are for.
> >
> > Thanks

>
> The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it for
> sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio is on. If
> the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing you'll hear is what
> leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is able to do that more easily
> than HF (AM).


Pin 24 it is. Connected it to the wire from my head unit, and I have
radio again! Thanks for the help


OU97CPA 07-12-2006 11:00 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 

Bob wrote:
> "OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > hyundaitech wrote:
> >> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've seen go
> >> inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like this on the
> >> vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and install.

> >
> > Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
> > diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to locate
> > are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the harnesses
> > omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the factory harness
> > are for.
> >
> > Thanks

>
> The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it for
> sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio is on. If
> the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing you'll hear is what
> leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is able to do that more easily
> than HF (AM).


Pin 24 it is. Connected it to the wire from my head unit, and I have
radio again! Thanks for the help


hyundaitech 07-12-2006 11:54 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
You can view/print the schematics, shop manuals, and technical service
bulletins at www.hmaservice.com. You'll need to register for an account,
but it's free. The site requires IE.


hyundaitech 07-12-2006 11:54 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
You can view/print the schematics, shop manuals, and technical service
bulletins at www.hmaservice.com. You'll need to register for an account,
but it's free. The site requires IE.


hyundaitech 07-12-2006 11:54 AM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
You can view/print the schematics, shop manuals, and technical service
bulletins at www.hmaservice.com. You'll need to register for an account,
but it's free. The site requires IE.


Eric G. 07-12-2006 04:07 PM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
"OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1152716405.294139.99190@s13g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

>
> Bob wrote:
>> "OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> > hyundaitech wrote:
>> >> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've
>> >> seen go inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like
>> >> this on the vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and
>> >> install.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
>> > diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to
>> > locate are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the
>> > harnesses omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the
>> > factory harness are for.
>> >
>> > Thanks

>>
>> The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it
>> for sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio
>> is on. If the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing
>> you'll hear is what leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is
>> able to do that more easily than HF (AM).

>
> Pin 24 it is. Connected it to the wire from my head unit, and I have
> radio again! Thanks for the help
>


Let me ask you guys something, since you seem to know your radios and
wiring. I have Sirius radio. I can use it fine with my FM modulator,
but as you probably know, the sound is much less than CD quality. On my
(now traded in) Elantra, I used an in-line antenna adapter to pipe in
the Sirius. Although it still relied on a FM modulator, the sound was
much better - almost CD quality.

When I got rid of the Elantra I removed the antenna adapter and tried to
install it in my Sonata. With it in place, I had great sounding Sirius,
but my AM reception was almost nothing, and my FM was very poor.

Removing the adapter fixed that problem and I have left it alone ever
since.

Could the adapter interfere with the built-in antenna amp? Is there any
way around that?

Thanks for any help you can provide. I am thinking maybe this is some
kind of grounding issue, but I tried a few things with no success. Of
course, I wasn't aware of the antenna amp to begin with.

Eric

Eric G. 07-12-2006 04:07 PM

Re: 2006 Sonata - Antenna Amp?
 
"OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1152716405.294139.99190@s13g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

>
> Bob wrote:
>> "OU97CPA" <ou97cpa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1152635322.035429.52810@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> > hyundaitech wrote:
>> >> This isn't really my area of expertise, but any antenna amps I've
>> >> seen go inline with the antenna wire. There isn't anything like
>> >> this on the vehicle-- you'd have to purchase something and
>> >> install.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info! Do you know where I can view/download the pin
>> > diagram for the factory harness? The only ones I've been able to
>> > locate are for aftermarket harnesses, which omit the wires that the
>> > harnesses omit. I'm just curious what the 2 other wires on the
>> > factory harness are for.
>> >
>> > Thanks

>>
>> The one that was on pin 24 - I think it's G/B, but I can't read it
>> for sure - is for the antenna amp. It needs 12 volts when the radio
>> is on. If the amp's not powered, it's likely that the only thing
>> you'll hear is what leaks through the amp, and cable. VHF (FM) is
>> able to do that more easily than HF (AM).

>
> Pin 24 it is. Connected it to the wire from my head unit, and I have
> radio again! Thanks for the help
>


Let me ask you guys something, since you seem to know your radios and
wiring. I have Sirius radio. I can use it fine with my FM modulator,
but as you probably know, the sound is much less than CD quality. On my
(now traded in) Elantra, I used an in-line antenna adapter to pipe in
the Sirius. Although it still relied on a FM modulator, the sound was
much better - almost CD quality.

When I got rid of the Elantra I removed the antenna adapter and tried to
install it in my Sonata. With it in place, I had great sounding Sirius,
but my AM reception was almost nothing, and my FM was very poor.

Removing the adapter fixed that problem and I have left it alone ever
since.

Could the adapter interfere with the built-in antenna amp? Is there any
way around that?

Thanks for any help you can provide. I am thinking maybe this is some
kind of grounding issue, but I tried a few things with no success. Of
course, I wasn't aware of the antenna amp to begin with.

Eric


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