2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Hi;

I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine. Yesterday
all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart or two
of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was fine. I
replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it. There
didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area. It looks
like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could be?

Thanks
Pat

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

On 8 Feb 2007 10:23:48 -0800, "komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi;
>
>I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine. Yesterday
>all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart or two
>of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was fine. I
>replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it. There
>didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area. It looks
>like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could be?
>
>Thanks
>Pat

Looks like the Soanta is still under warranty - take it to the dealer!

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Check to make sure it’s not leaking out of the oil filter housing
where the cap installs. Oil that leaks here tends to drip or run off
around where the transmission meets the engine. If not from the
housing, take it in for warranty service

"komobu" wrote
> Hi;
>
> I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine.
> Yesterday
> all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart
> or two
> of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was
> fine. I
> replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it.
> There
> didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area.
> It looks
> like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could
> be?
>
> Thanks
> Pat

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Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL leak.
The stealership wants a dollar a piece for them. If you search the internet
you can find Hyundai filers and the washers as a combo deal.

Tom


"Jose Juan Miqueleno" <miggie@juno.com> wrote in message
news:0dtms2d1cj5acnu41f3knb8qv3nfifcaqo@4ax.com...
> On 8 Feb 2007 10:23:48 -0800, "komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi;
>>
>>I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine. Yesterday
>>all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart or two
>>of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was fine. I
>>replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it. There
>>didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area. It looks
>>like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could be?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Pat
>
> Looks like the Soanta is still under warranty - take it to the dealer!

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:eURyh.392$I8.306@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
> aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL
> leak. The stealership wants a dollar a piece for them. If you search the
> internet you can find Hyundai filers and the washers as a combo deal.
>
> Tom

When I bought the filters at my dealer (8.99) he gave me the washers. I
never thought about it until he handed them to me. If he hadn't, I probably
would have just re-used the original. Actually, no the guy that does my oil
changes would have. He did not have a Hyundai filter as they are not
readily available for his usual sources.

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Tom wrote:

> One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
> aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL leak.

Really? I've changed my oil twice and reused the washer and had no
leak. I'm only changing the washer every other change and that is
working fine. I suspect it would last much longer than that as long as
the plug is properly torqued. Most folks overtighten the drain plug
causing the washer to crush unnecessarily and that will cause problems
at some point.

I'm still not sure why Hyundai couldn't use an oil plug like my minivan
that has a little rubber o-ring built in or even like my old Chevy truck
that has a washer that has lasted 13 years and 19 oil changes, but I
digress.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Hyundaitech wrote:

> Check to make sure it’s not leaking out of the oil filter housing
> where the cap installs. Oil that leaks here tends to drip or run off
> around where the transmission meets the engine. If not from the
> housing, take it in for warranty service.
>
> "komobu" wrote:
> > Hi;
> >
> > I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine.
> > Yesterday
> > all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart
> > or two
> > of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was
> > fine. I
> > replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it.
> > There
> > didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area.
> > It looks
> > like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could
> > be?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Pat
>

If he lost a quart or two that quickly, he better have it towed to the
dealer. Driving it with that rate of oil lost would likely ruin the
engine unless his dealer is across the street.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:5AYyh.2581$Oc.157338@news1.epix.net...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
>> aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL
>> leak.
>
> Really? I've changed my oil twice and reused the washer and had no leak.
> I'm only changing the washer every other change and that is working fine.
> I suspect it would last much longer than that as long as the plug is
> properly torqued. Most folks overtighten the drain plug causing the
> washer to crush unnecessarily and that will cause problems at some point.
>
> I'm still not sure why Hyundai couldn't use an oil plug like my minivan
> that has a little rubber o-ring built in or even like my old Chevy truck
> that has a washer that has lasted 13 years and 19 oil changes, but I
> digress.
>

You can get the crush washers at Advance Auto Parts. I've also been buying
the filters from the Kia dealer for $6.00 each. I also bought a cheap torque
wrench at Harbour Freight for $12.00. It's funny how what you think is
"tight enough" really isn't when you use a device that tell's you when to
stop. The spec for the drain plug centers at about 30 foot-pounds. I
originally bought it when I put the trailer hitch on my car. The bolts for
that are pretty specific as to how tight to make them.

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

I get them by the bagful from my dealership for no charge.

And it is nice to know that someone else finally is saying this - I got
taken to task on this board for making this claim. Yes, those crushable
washers DO leak.

Good news is that the latest bag I just got from my dealer is not the
crushable ones. Just standard O-rings that should last just fine now.

Tom Wenndt


"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:eURyh.392$I8.306@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
> aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL
> leak. The stealership wants a dollar a piece for them. If you search the
> internet you can find Hyundai filers and the washers as a combo deal.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jose Juan Miqueleno" <miggie@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:0dtms2d1cj5acnu41f3knb8qv3nfifcaqo@4ax.com...
>> On 8 Feb 2007 10:23:48 -0800, "komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi;
>>>
>>>I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine. Yesterday
>>>all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart or two
>>>of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was fine. I
>>>replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it. There
>>>didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area. It looks
>>>like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could be?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Pat
>>
>> Looks like the Soanta is still under warranty - take it to the dealer!
>
>

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Dump a can of oil sealer and wait for 07 Accord come out.

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

"ass" <@inMail24.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1171039191.913475.100030@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups. com...
> Dump a can of oil sealer and wait for 07 Accord come out.
>

And pay 3 to 5K more (here in province of Quebec, Canada) for less or same
equipment. Good advice, thank you!

BTW... nice nickname... nice addy..., !

Shaman

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Bob wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:5AYyh.2581$Oc.157338@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Tom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
>>>aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL
>>>leak.
>>
>>Really? I've changed my oil twice and reused the washer and had no leak.
>>I'm only changing the washer every other change and that is working fine.
>>I suspect it would last much longer than that as long as the plug is
>>properly torqued. Most folks overtighten the drain plug causing the
>>washer to crush unnecessarily and that will cause problems at some point.
>>
>>I'm still not sure why Hyundai couldn't use an oil plug like my minivan
>>that has a little rubber o-ring built in or even like my old Chevy truck
>>that has a washer that has lasted 13 years and 19 oil changes, but I
>>digress.
>>
>
>
> You can get the crush washers at Advance Auto Parts. I've also been buying
> the filters from the Kia dealer for $6.00 each. I also bought a cheap torque
> wrench at Harbour Freight for $12.00. It's funny how what you think is
> "tight enough" really isn't when you use a device that tell's you when to
> stop. The spec for the drain plug centers at about 30 foot-pounds. I
> originally bought it when I put the trailer hitch on my car. The bolts for
> that are pretty specific as to how tight to make them.

I tend towards the opposite problem. What I think is tight enough tends
to be about 2X TOO tight. I can generate 50 lb-ft with a 5/8"
combination wrench, easily hit 80 with a 3/8" drive ratchet and 120 with
a 1/2" drive ratchet. I need a torque wrench to avoid over tightening
things. My pickup requires 110 lb-ft on the lug nuts and I usually get
to 100 with just an easy pull on the 1/2" drive ratchet. I rarely need
more than another 1/8" turn with the torque wrench to get to 110.

Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Your right, Matt. I never changed the gaskets on my old cars when I changed
the oil and they never leaked. On my first oil change that I did with the
Hyundai, I followed my usual procedure of reusing the gasket and it pucked
all over my garage. Now all is well. My son's Jetta is the same way. If
you don't replace the brass washer on the drain plug it will leak like hell.
Go figure.


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:5AYyh.2581$Oc.157338@news1.epix.net...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
>> aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL
>> leak.
>
> Really? I've changed my oil twice and reused the washer and had no leak.
> I'm only changing the washer every other change and that is working fine.
> I suspect it would last much longer than that as long as the plug is
> properly torqued. Most folks overtighten the drain plug causing the
> washer to crush unnecessarily and that will cause problems at some point.
>
> I'm still not sure why Hyundai couldn't use an oil plug like my minivan
> that has a little rubber o-ring built in or even like my old Chevy truck
> that has a washer that has lasted 13 years and 19 oil changes, but I
> digress.
>
>
> Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Wow, a bagfull for nothing!!! My money-grubbing dealer counted them out and
charged a buck a piece. That was a month after he raped me $75 for a 7500
mile 'check up' which, I found out later, didn't cover a darn thing that
Hyundai required to maintain the warrantee. Hence, I change my own oil,
keep receipts and box ends from the filters, and won't be back until I
really need him.


"Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote in message
news:eqi7tp02f5l@enews1.newsguy.com...
>I get them by the bagful from my dealership for no charge.
>
> And it is nice to know that someone else finally is saying this - I got
> taken to task on this board for making this claim. Yes, those crushable
> washers DO leak.
>
> Good news is that the latest bag I just got from my dealer is not the
> crushable ones. Just standard O-rings that should last just fine now.
>
> Tom Wenndt
>
>
> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:eURyh.392$I8.306@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>> One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
>> aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL
>> leak. The stealership wants a dollar a piece for them. If you search the
>> internet you can find Hyundai filers and the washers as a combo deal.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jose Juan Miqueleno" <miggie@juno.com> wrote in message
>> news:0dtms2d1cj5acnu41f3knb8qv3nfifcaqo@4ax.com...
>>> On 8 Feb 2007 10:23:48 -0800, "komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi;
>>>>
>>>>I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine. Yesterday
>>>>all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart or two
>>>>of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was fine. I
>>>>replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it. There
>>>>didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area. It looks
>>>>like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could be?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Pat
>>>
>>> Looks like the Soanta is still under warranty - take it to the dealer!
>>
>>
>
>

Re: 2006 Sonata Oil Change
 

Regarding those crushable gaskets (that I no longer have to deal with, and
as I was told just this afternoon, are being replaced with "standard
O-rings" at all Hyundai and Kia dealers), my rule was to tighten with my two
smallest fingers. It could just barely crush the O-ring until it "just"
seated tight.

It feels almost loose (not too much trouble ever) getting it off the next
time. Which goes to show you how tight some of these bozos tighten these
things at fast oil change places and even dealerships. You would think
SOMEONE would know better.

But when I have tightened it this way, it never has threatened to want to
loosen, and has never leaked because it wasn't tight enough. But those
crushable O-rings did leak every time I tried to re-use them - every time.
I shed no tears that I won't be using them anymore.

Tom Wenndt


"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Xu7zh.1418$O8.1314@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> Wow, a bagfull for nothing!!! My money-grubbing dealer counted them out
> and charged a buck a piece. That was a month after he raped me $75 for a
> 7500 mile 'check up' which, I found out later, didn't cover a darn thing
> that Hyundai required to maintain the warrantee. Hence, I change my own
> oil, keep receipts and box ends from the filters, and won't be back until
> I really need him.
>
>
> "Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote in message
> news:eqi7tp02f5l@enews1.newsguy.com...
>>I get them by the bagful from my dealership for no charge.
>>
>> And it is nice to know that someone else finally is saying this - I got
>> taken to task on this board for making this claim. Yes, those crushable
>> washers DO leak.
>>
>> Good news is that the latest bag I just got from my dealer is not the
>> crushable ones. Just standard O-rings that should last just fine now.
>>
>> Tom Wenndt
>>
>>
>> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:eURyh.392$I8.306@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>> One thing I learned the hard way is that you HAVE to replace that darn
>>> aluminum crushable washer under the drain plug. If you don't, I WILL
>>> leak. The stealership wants a dollar a piece for them. If you search
>>> the internet you can find Hyundai filers and the washers as a combo
>>> deal.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jose Juan Miqueleno" <miggie@juno.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0dtms2d1cj5acnu41f3knb8qv3nfifcaqo@4ax.com...
>>>> On 8 Feb 2007 10:23:48 -0800, "komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi;
>>>>>
>>>>>I changed the oil in my 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 V6 engine. Yesterday
>>>>>all was fine. When I started it up this morning, about a quart or two
>>>>>of oil was leak spilling out on the ground. The drain plug was fine. I
>>>>>replaced the oil filter cartridge and both oil rings on it. There
>>>>>didnt appear to be any oil leaking from the oil filter area. It looks
>>>>>like it is coming out by the transaxle. Any idea what it could be?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Pat
>>>>
>>>> Looks like the Soanta is still under warranty - take it to the dealer!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>