2007 Sonota
 

From: "Irwin Opper" <ijopper@comcast.com>
Subject: 2007 Sonota
Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:32 AM

I have a 2007 sonota 6 cyl.. Can any one tell me how to activate the speed
sensing auto door locks?
Do I have to go back to the dealer?
TIA,
Irwin Opper

Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get for
the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes. Most
other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change the
status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a couple
of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get
> for
> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes.
> Most
> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change the
> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a
> couple
> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.

That sucks. To get a better "value" for the hours, have the service do some
other job while you are there. Get your hubcaps dusted or something. Maybe
during an oil change they'd toss it in free? Nah, that would just make for
a happy customer.

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
help?
Best,
Seamus J. Wilson
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get
>> for
>> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes.
>> Most
>> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change
>> the
>> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a
>> couple
>> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.
>
> That sucks. To get a better "value" for the hours, have the service do
> some other job while you are there. Get your hubcaps dusted or something.
> Maybe during an oil change they'd toss it in free? Nah, that would just
> make for a happy customer.
>

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@cox.net> wrote in message
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> In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> help?

If the accident is that bad, there will be no glass blocking access to the
lock mechanism. Nor will they open anyway once the frame is bent into the
door. Emergency personnel carry a tool to break the glass if it is not
broken. One smack does it.

Supposedly, the locks help keep the door closed to lessen the chances of you
getting tossed out.

Honestly, until I had a car that had auto locks, I never locked them. Years
ago, we did not have car jacking every day either but there are time I feel
a bit more secure at a stoplight knowing the doors are locked. Oh, I rarely
have the windows down as I prefer AC over a noisy ride too, but YMMV.

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
> In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> help?
> Best,
> Seamus J. Wilson
>

Never heard of home invasion? You think can't this happen in vehicles? With
one wife and two kids in my car, I preffer to keep the doors locked, in case
of...

Shaman

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
> In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> help?

Oh... how about... maybe - break out a window. Now there's a thought.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
> > In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> > In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> > help?
> > Best,
> > Seamus J. Wilson
> >
>
> Never heard of home invasion? You think can't this happen in vehicles?
With
> one wife and two kids in my car, I preffer to keep the doors locked, in
case
> of...
>

Happiness is a warm .45

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

Bob wrote:
> From: "Irwin Opper" <ijopper@comcast.com>
> Subject: 2007 Sonota
> Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:32 AM
>
> I have a 2007 sonota 6 cyl.. Can any one tell me how to activate the speed
> sensing auto door locks?
> Do I have to go back to the dealer?
> TIA,
> Irwin Opper
>
> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get for
> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes. Most
> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change the
> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a couple
> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.

Yes, Chrysler has long been a technology leader in the
electrical/electronics area. They also let you display the scan codes
on the MIL by using a ignition key on-off-on-off-on sequence. Then
count the flashes and look up the code. Very neat. I can also do this
on my Chevy truck, but it requires using a paper clip bent open to short
two terminals on the scan connector. Effective, but not nearly as
elegant as Chryslers solution.

If Chryslers manufacturing competency was as good as its engineering,
Toyota would have some competition. I still think Chryslers are some of
the best engineered cars on the market, they just aren't always the best
made cars.

Hyundai may have a similar feature, but I have yet to have the check
engine light come on so I've had no need to find out yet.


Matt

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
>
>>In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
>>In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
>>help?
>
>
> If the accident is that bad, there will be no glass blocking access to the
> lock mechanism. Nor will they open anyway once the frame is bent into the
> door. Emergency personnel carry a tool to break the glass if it is not
> broken. One smack does it.
>
> Supposedly, the locks help keep the door closed to lessen the chances of you
> getting tossed out.
>
> Honestly, until I had a car that had auto locks, I never locked them. Years
> ago, we did not have car jacking every day either but there are time I feel
> a bit more secure at a stoplight knowing the doors are locked. Oh, I rarely
> have the windows down as I prefer AC over a noisy ride too, but YMMV.

I don't like them and have them disabled on all of my cars. I have
other means to deal with a car jacker...


Matt

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

Shaman wrote:

> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
>
>>In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
>>In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
>>help?
>>Best,
>>Seamus J. Wilson
>>
>
>
> Never heard of home invasion? You think can't this happen in vehicles? With
> one wife and two kids in my car, I preffer to keep the doors locked, in case
> of...

Yes, I have heard of both and my response to both is the same. The
invader will soon be reaching room temperature.

Matt

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
5a883$45a6bb53$452894fb$17633@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>
> Happiness is a warm .45
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft by
Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)

But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...

Shaman



Shaman

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

Reply to message from "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> (Thu,
11 Jan 2007 18:27:40) about "Re: 2007 Sonota":

S> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against
S> theft by Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)

S> But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the
S> area where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...

You make an excellent point.

Here in Houston the car jackers apparently know their craft because,
despite the likelihood of the typical Texan to have a gun, I don't recall
hearing of the car jacker getting shot.

As a matter of fact unless one drives around with the gun in their lap, it
usually goes with the car, thereby adding to the problem.

Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:39:02 -0600

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Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 5a883$45a6bb53$452894fb$17633@ALLTEL.NET...
> >
> >
> > Happiness is a warm .45
> >
> > --
> >
> > -Mike-
> > mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
> >
> >
>
> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft
by
> Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>

Yeuch - no way man. I don't put bumper stickers on any of my vehicles.


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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

Shaman wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 5a883$45a6bb53$452894fb$17633@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>
>>Happiness is a warm .45
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>>
>
>
> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft by
> Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>
> But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
> where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...

Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)

Matt

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
> Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)

I agree, you aren't. Good chance the gun is to your heat when the door is
yanked open and you would not have a chance to reach for yours.

Just the other day near Hartford, there was a guy that jacked and wrecked
five cars before finally getting stopped. Seems as though the last one he
picked has a 100+ pound Rotweiller in the back seat.

It is not an every day concern for me, but there are times I travel to a
city with less than desirable streets and automatic or not, the doors would
be locked.

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

> Shaman wrote:
>> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> 5a883$45a6bb53$452894fb$17633@ALLTEL.NET...
>>
>>>
>>>Happiness is a warm .45
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>-Mike-
>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft
>> by Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>>
>> But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
>> where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
>
> Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)
>
> Matt

Sure not, but unless you drive with your gun between your teeth.

I don't know if you know Lucky Luke in your place down south, but unless
you pull the trigger as fast as him, maybe be the car jacker will be faster
than you.

Anyway, keeping the car's doors locked while driving is just a basic
security element.

Shaman



Shaman

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

Shaman wrote:
>>Shaman wrote:
>>
>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
>>>5a883$45a6bb53$452894fb$17633@ALLTEL.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Happiness is a warm .45
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>-Mike-
>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft
>>>by Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>>>
>>>But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
>>>where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
>>
>>Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> Sure not, but unless you drive with your gun between your teeth.
>
> I don't know if you know Lucky Luke in your place down south, but unless
> you pull the trigger as fast as him, maybe be the car jacker will be faster
> than you.
>
> Anyway, keeping the car's doors locked while driving is just a basic
> security element.

You don't know much about self-defense. A locked car is no defense
against a crook with a gun. It isn't hard to shoot out a window. There
are much better defensive techniques than locking your car. Read some
of Massad Ayoob's work or others in the field.

Matt

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
>>Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)
>
>
> I agree, you aren't. Good chance the gun is to your heat when the door is
> yanked open and you would not have a chance to reach for yours.
>
> Just the other day near Hartford, there was a guy that jacked and wrecked
> five cars before finally getting stopped. Seems as though the last one he
> picked has a 100+ pound Rotweiller in the back seat.
>
> It is not an every day concern for me, but there are times I travel to a
> city with less than desirable streets and automatic or not, the doors would
> be locked.

Locking the doors only gives a false sense of security. Hey, if it
works for you that is fine with me. Personally, I know of much better
techniques.

Matt

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
0ETph.2090$Oc.135992@news1.epix.net...
> Shaman wrote:
>>>Shaman wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
>>>>5a883$45a6bb53$452894fb$17633@ALLTEL.NET...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Happiness is a warm .45
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>-Mike-
>>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against
>>>>theft by Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>>>>
>>>>But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
>>>>where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
>>>
>>>Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>> Sure not, but unless you drive with your gun between your teeth.
>>
>> I don't know if you know Lucky Luke in your place down south, but unless
>> you pull the trigger as fast as him, maybe be the car jacker will be
>> faster than you.
>>
>> Anyway, keeping the car's doors locked while driving is just a basic
>> security element.
>
> You don't know much about self-defense. A locked car is no defense
> against a crook with a gun. It isn't hard to shoot out a window. There
> are much better defensive techniques than locking your car. Read some of
> Massad Ayoob's work or others in the field.
>
> Matt

My best bet to get away from those car jackers is press on the right pedal,
with both hands on the steering wheel... With the doors locked!! ;-)

Shaman

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message

> Locking the doors only gives a false sense of security. Hey, if it works
> for you that is fine with me. Personally, I know of much better
> techniques.

Locking doors is only a portion of what should and can be done. You
evidently are not aware of how many handbags have been snatched at traffic
lights because an unlocked door was just opened. Or how many people have
been yanked from their car. Obviously, it will not keep a pro or desperate
criminal from doing harm, but it is sure silly to not take minimal
precautions when driving in some areas. Where I live, probably same as your
area, I don't worry, but I do in downtown big city anyplace.

You probably don't walk down the street with your money in hand for all to
see and easily snatch. Why leave yourself and anything that may be in your
car that vulnerable too?

Oh, and locking your car when parked is silly. That just lets the amateur
to break in and do damage to steal nothing of value. The pro will steal
your car at will, locked and alarmed.

Re: 2007 Sonota
 

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
>> In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
>> In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
>> help?
>
> Oh... how about... maybe - break out a window. Now there's a thought.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
If I'm not mistaken, there's a crash output from the SRSCM to the BCM on
many cars that causes the power locks to unlock if the airbag is triggered.