Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

hyundaitech wrote:
> Well, I didn't know the three types, either. Based on what you post, I
> conclude that Hyundai has IAT coolant.
>
> For what it's worth, I wouldn't even consider going to OAT. I've seen
> some horrors in GM DexCool vehicles.
>
> I've got a question back for you, then. Toyota was one of the first on
> the market with long-life coolant, Toyota Original Red. I've not once
> heard a bad word about it. Can you tell me which of the three types of
> coolant it is?

Hyundaitech,

According to my research, both Toyota and Honda use OAT coolant, but
not the the DexCool OAT formula. It appears the possible "culprit" in
DexCool is an additive called 2-EHA. This additive is not present in
either the OEM Toyota or Honda coolant. In fact, Honda is having a fit
(no pun intended) that GM is installing DexCool in the Honda-built 3.5
litre V6 used in the Saturn VUE.

Here is a link regarding the above information:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...08/ai_n9453107

When I change out the IAT coolant in the 2006 Elantra, I've decided to
go with the HOAT coolant that I've used since the purchase of my 1985
SAAB 900 in April 1985.. HOAT is fully compatible with IAT green
coolant, but is much more protective of aluminum and plastic cooling
system components. Mercedes-Benz only recommends this type of coolant,
and I've had excellent luck with it in my SAAB. The 2 litre SOHC
8-valve SAAB engine is known for leaking head gaskets, and I've never
experienced a head gasket failure with the '85 900 in over 185,000
miles. Other than a starter, alternator, clutch, and belts, nothing
has been done to the SAAB engine - other than normal tune-ups and 3K/3
month oil changes of course. The M-B HOAT coolant costs $22/gal., but
it's manufactured for M-B North American by Valvoline. It is "one and
the same" as Valvoline Zerex G-05 coolant, available at any NAPA store
for $10.99/gal.

Here is a interesting link regarding the G-05 type HOAT coolant (M-B
and SAAB-specific, but it's an interesting read):

http://www.thesaabsite.com/Coolantinfo.htm

Thanks,
Don

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

hyundaitech wrote:
> Well, I didn't know the three types, either. Based on what you post, I
> conclude that Hyundai has IAT coolant.
>
> For what it's worth, I wouldn't even consider going to OAT. I've seen
> some horrors in GM DexCool vehicles.
>
> I've got a question back for you, then. Toyota was one of the first on
> the market with long-life coolant, Toyota Original Red. I've not once
> heard a bad word about it. Can you tell me which of the three types of
> coolant it is?

Hyundaitech,

According to my research, both Toyota and Honda use OAT coolant, but
not the the DexCool OAT formula. It appears the possible "culprit" in
DexCool is an additive called 2-EHA. This additive is not present in
either the OEM Toyota or Honda coolant. In fact, Honda is having a fit
(no pun intended) that GM is installing DexCool in the Honda-built 3.5
litre V6 used in the Saturn VUE.

Here is a link regarding the above information:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...08/ai_n9453107

When I change out the IAT coolant in the 2006 Elantra, I've decided to
go with the HOAT coolant that I've used since the purchase of my 1985
SAAB 900 in April 1985.. HOAT is fully compatible with IAT green
coolant, but is much more protective of aluminum and plastic cooling
system components. Mercedes-Benz only recommends this type of coolant,
and I've had excellent luck with it in my SAAB. The 2 litre SOHC
8-valve SAAB engine is known for leaking head gaskets, and I've never
experienced a head gasket failure with the '85 900 in over 185,000
miles. Other than a starter, alternator, clutch, and belts, nothing
has been done to the SAAB engine - other than normal tune-ups and 3K/3
month oil changes of course. The M-B HOAT coolant costs $22/gal., but
it's manufactured for M-B North American by Valvoline. It is "one and
the same" as Valvoline Zerex G-05 coolant, available at any NAPA store
for $10.99/gal.

Here is a interesting link regarding the G-05 type HOAT coolant (M-B
and SAAB-specific, but it's an interesting read):

http://www.thesaabsite.com/Coolantinfo.htm

Thanks,
Don

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

"Don Allen" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157509334.489886.131930@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> hyundaitech wrote:
>> Well, I didn't know the three types, either. Based on what you post, I
>> conclude that Hyundai has IAT coolant.
>>
>> For what it's worth, I wouldn't even consider going to OAT. I've seen
>> some horrors in GM DexCool vehicles.
>>
>> I've got a question back for you, then. Toyota was one of the first on
>> the market with long-life coolant, Toyota Original Red. I've not once
>> heard a bad word about it. Can you tell me which of the three types of
>> coolant it is?
>
> Hyundaitech,
>
> According to my research, both Toyota and Honda use OAT coolant, but
> not the the DexCool OAT formula. It appears the possible "culprit" in
> DexCool is an additive called 2-EHA. This additive is not present in
> either the OEM Toyota or Honda coolant. In fact, Honda is having a fit
> (no pun intended) that GM is installing DexCool in the Honda-built 3.5
> litre V6 used in the Saturn VUE.
>
> Here is a link regarding the above information:
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...08/ai_n9453107
>
> When I change out the IAT coolant in the 2006 Elantra, I've decided to
> go with the HOAT coolant that I've used since the purchase of my 1985
> SAAB 900 in April 1985.. HOAT is fully compatible with IAT green
> coolant, but is much more protective of aluminum and plastic cooling
> system components. Mercedes-Benz only recommends this type of coolant,
> and I've had excellent luck with it in my SAAB. The 2 litre SOHC
> 8-valve SAAB engine is known for leaking head gaskets, and I've never
> experienced a head gasket failure with the '85 900 in over 185,000
> miles. Other than a starter, alternator, clutch, and belts, nothing
> has been done to the SAAB engine - other than normal tune-ups and 3K/3
> month oil changes of course. The M-B HOAT coolant costs $22/gal., but
> it's manufactured for M-B North American by Valvoline. It is "one and
> the same" as Valvoline Zerex G-05 coolant, available at any NAPA store
> for $10.99/gal.
>
> Here is a interesting link regarding the G-05 type HOAT coolant (M-B
> and SAAB-specific, but it's an interesting read):
>
> http://www.thesaabsite.com/Coolantinfo.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Don
You can get G-05 for about $10.00 a gallon at Napa or Pep Boys. That's what
my Town & Country uses. It's a light yellow, almost clear fluid. Also, it
smells like bleach when you open the container.

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

"Don Allen" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157509334.489886.131930@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> hyundaitech wrote:
>> Well, I didn't know the three types, either. Based on what you post, I
>> conclude that Hyundai has IAT coolant.
>>
>> For what it's worth, I wouldn't even consider going to OAT. I've seen
>> some horrors in GM DexCool vehicles.
>>
>> I've got a question back for you, then. Toyota was one of the first on
>> the market with long-life coolant, Toyota Original Red. I've not once
>> heard a bad word about it. Can you tell me which of the three types of
>> coolant it is?
>
> Hyundaitech,
>
> According to my research, both Toyota and Honda use OAT coolant, but
> not the the DexCool OAT formula. It appears the possible "culprit" in
> DexCool is an additive called 2-EHA. This additive is not present in
> either the OEM Toyota or Honda coolant. In fact, Honda is having a fit
> (no pun intended) that GM is installing DexCool in the Honda-built 3.5
> litre V6 used in the Saturn VUE.
>
> Here is a link regarding the above information:
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...08/ai_n9453107
>
> When I change out the IAT coolant in the 2006 Elantra, I've decided to
> go with the HOAT coolant that I've used since the purchase of my 1985
> SAAB 900 in April 1985.. HOAT is fully compatible with IAT green
> coolant, but is much more protective of aluminum and plastic cooling
> system components. Mercedes-Benz only recommends this type of coolant,
> and I've had excellent luck with it in my SAAB. The 2 litre SOHC
> 8-valve SAAB engine is known for leaking head gaskets, and I've never
> experienced a head gasket failure with the '85 900 in over 185,000
> miles. Other than a starter, alternator, clutch, and belts, nothing
> has been done to the SAAB engine - other than normal tune-ups and 3K/3
> month oil changes of course. The M-B HOAT coolant costs $22/gal., but
> it's manufactured for M-B North American by Valvoline. It is "one and
> the same" as Valvoline Zerex G-05 coolant, available at any NAPA store
> for $10.99/gal.
>
> Here is a interesting link regarding the G-05 type HOAT coolant (M-B
> and SAAB-specific, but it's an interesting read):
>
> http://www.thesaabsite.com/Coolantinfo.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Don
You can get G-05 for about $10.00 a gallon at Napa or Pep Boys. That's what
my Town & Country uses. It's a light yellow, almost clear fluid. Also, it
smells like bleach when you open the container.

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:UxqLg.35789$y7.22117@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Don Allen" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1157509334.489886.131930@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>> Well, I didn't know the three types, either. Based on what you post, I
>>> conclude that Hyundai has IAT coolant.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I wouldn't even consider going to OAT. I've seen
>>> some horrors in GM DexCool vehicles.
>>>
>>> I've got a question back for you, then. Toyota was one of the first on
>>> the market with long-life coolant, Toyota Original Red. I've not once
>>> heard a bad word about it. Can you tell me which of the three types of
>>> coolant it is?
>>
>> Hyundaitech,
>>
>> According to my research, both Toyota and Honda use OAT coolant, but
>> not the the DexCool OAT formula. It appears the possible "culprit" in
>> DexCool is an additive called 2-EHA. This additive is not present in
>> either the OEM Toyota or Honda coolant. In fact, Honda is having a fit
>> (no pun intended) that GM is installing DexCool in the Honda-built 3.5
>> litre V6 used in the Saturn VUE.
>>
>> Here is a link regarding the above information:
>>
>> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...08/ai_n9453107
>>
>> When I change out the IAT coolant in the 2006 Elantra, I've decided to
>> go with the HOAT coolant that I've used since the purchase of my 1985
>> SAAB 900 in April 1985.. HOAT is fully compatible with IAT green
>> coolant, but is much more protective of aluminum and plastic cooling
>> system components. Mercedes-Benz only recommends this type of coolant,
>> and I've had excellent luck with it in my SAAB. The 2 litre SOHC
>> 8-valve SAAB engine is known for leaking head gaskets, and I've never
>> experienced a head gasket failure with the '85 900 in over 185,000
>> miles. Other than a starter, alternator, clutch, and belts, nothing
>> has been done to the SAAB engine - other than normal tune-ups and 3K/3
>> month oil changes of course. The M-B HOAT coolant costs $22/gal., but
>> it's manufactured for M-B North American by Valvoline. It is "one and
>> the same" as Valvoline Zerex G-05 coolant, available at any NAPA store
>> for $10.99/gal.
>>
>> Here is a interesting link regarding the G-05 type HOAT coolant (M-B
>> and SAAB-specific, but it's an interesting read):
>>
>> http://www.thesaabsite.com/Coolantinfo.htm
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
> You can get G-05 for about $10.00 a gallon at Napa or Pep Boys. That's
> what my Town & Country uses. It's a light yellow, almost clear fluid.
> Also, it smells like bleach when you open the container.
Oops... I should have read this post all the way to the bottom - you already
knew where to get it. It still smells like bleach, though.

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:UxqLg.35789$y7.22117@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Don Allen" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1157509334.489886.131930@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>> Well, I didn't know the three types, either. Based on what you post, I
>>> conclude that Hyundai has IAT coolant.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I wouldn't even consider going to OAT. I've seen
>>> some horrors in GM DexCool vehicles.
>>>
>>> I've got a question back for you, then. Toyota was one of the first on
>>> the market with long-life coolant, Toyota Original Red. I've not once
>>> heard a bad word about it. Can you tell me which of the three types of
>>> coolant it is?
>>
>> Hyundaitech,
>>
>> According to my research, both Toyota and Honda use OAT coolant, but
>> not the the DexCool OAT formula. It appears the possible "culprit" in
>> DexCool is an additive called 2-EHA. This additive is not present in
>> either the OEM Toyota or Honda coolant. In fact, Honda is having a fit
>> (no pun intended) that GM is installing DexCool in the Honda-built 3.5
>> litre V6 used in the Saturn VUE.
>>
>> Here is a link regarding the above information:
>>
>> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...08/ai_n9453107
>>
>> When I change out the IAT coolant in the 2006 Elantra, I've decided to
>> go with the HOAT coolant that I've used since the purchase of my 1985
>> SAAB 900 in April 1985.. HOAT is fully compatible with IAT green
>> coolant, but is much more protective of aluminum and plastic cooling
>> system components. Mercedes-Benz only recommends this type of coolant,
>> and I've had excellent luck with it in my SAAB. The 2 litre SOHC
>> 8-valve SAAB engine is known for leaking head gaskets, and I've never
>> experienced a head gasket failure with the '85 900 in over 185,000
>> miles. Other than a starter, alternator, clutch, and belts, nothing
>> has been done to the SAAB engine - other than normal tune-ups and 3K/3
>> month oil changes of course. The M-B HOAT coolant costs $22/gal., but
>> it's manufactured for M-B North American by Valvoline. It is "one and
>> the same" as Valvoline Zerex G-05 coolant, available at any NAPA store
>> for $10.99/gal.
>>
>> Here is a interesting link regarding the G-05 type HOAT coolant (M-B
>> and SAAB-specific, but it's an interesting read):
>>
>> http://www.thesaabsite.com/Coolantinfo.htm
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
> You can get G-05 for about $10.00 a gallon at Napa or Pep Boys. That's
> what my Town & Country uses. It's a light yellow, almost clear fluid.
> Also, it smells like bleach when you open the container.
Oops... I should have read this post all the way to the bottom - you already
knew where to get it. It still smells like bleach, though.

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

Bob wrote:

> > You can get G-05 for about $10.00 a gallon at Napa or Pep Boys. That's
> > what my Town & Country uses. It's a light yellow, almost clear fluid.
> > Also, it smells like bleach when you open the container.
> Oops... I should have read this post all the way to the bottom - you already
> knew where to get it. It still smells like bleach, though.

Bob,

Thanks. As you most likely know, the G-05 HOAT coolant is what
Daimler-Chrysler specifies for all its vehicles.

Here is a link to all of the various formulations that Valvoline
manufactures:

https://www.valvoline-technology.com...x?OpenFrameSet

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

Bob wrote:

> > You can get G-05 for about $10.00 a gallon at Napa or Pep Boys. That's
> > what my Town & Country uses. It's a light yellow, almost clear fluid.
> > Also, it smells like bleach when you open the container.
> Oops... I should have read this post all the way to the bottom - you already
> knew where to get it. It still smells like bleach, though.

Bob,

Thanks. As you most likely know, the G-05 HOAT coolant is what
Daimler-Chrysler specifies for all its vehicles.

Here is a link to all of the various formulations that Valvoline
manufactures:

https://www.valvoline-technology.com...x?OpenFrameSet

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

Dear Don, Did you just open Pandoras's Box? or what !I bought my Sonata new
April 01 I was thinking about changing the coolant this year for the 1st.
Time but, I don't know now!!

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

Dear Don, Did you just open Pandoras's Box? or what !I bought my Sonata new
April 01 I was thinking about changing the coolant this year for the 1st.
Time but, I don't know now!!

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

Dear Don,Did you just open Pandoras's Box? or What! I bought my Sonata new
in april 01, I was going to change coolant this year for the 1st. time but
now I"m almost skeered to touch the thing!

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

Dear Don,Did you just open Pandoras's Box? or What! I bought my Sonata new
in april 01, I was going to change coolant this year for the 1st. time but
now I"m almost skeered to touch the thing!

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

"taters2" <carl.n@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:59e84bac6d6f77b7c549770f049902fe@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Dear Don,Did you just open Pandoras's Box? or What! I bought my Sonata new
> in april 01, I was going to change coolant this year for the 1st. time but
> now I"m almost skeered to touch the thing!
>

I've know some people that are very about cars, but Don is the first that I
know of to use de-mineralized or distilled water. Makes some sense though
in some areas where hte water is full of "stuff"

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

"taters2" <carl.n@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:59e84bac6d6f77b7c549770f049902fe@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Dear Don,Did you just open Pandoras's Box? or What! I bought my Sonata new
> in april 01, I was going to change coolant this year for the 1st. time but
> now I"m almost skeered to touch the thing!
>

I've know some people that are very about cars, but Don is the first that I
know of to use de-mineralized or distilled water. Makes some sense though
in some areas where hte water is full of "stuff"

Re: 206 Elantra - Coolant/Anti-Freeze Question
 

Ed,

The use of distilled or de-mineralized water all started with my SAAB
dealer over 30 years ago. He was a firm believer in using distilled
water. He stated it minimizes electrolysis with all of the aluminum
pieces and parts in an engine. Who knows . . . the bottom line is
I've never had a cooling system failure since then when using distilled
water and quality coolant. Of course, changing the coolant every 24
months helps, but I'm quite strict on car preventive maintenance. Maybe
that's why my 1985 SAAB with over 200K is still going strong! I hope
the Hyundai does as well in the long-term.

Don

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "taters2" <carl.n@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:59e84bac6d6f77b7c549770f049902fe@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> > Dear Don,Did you just open Pandoras's Box? or What! I bought my Sonata new
> > in april 01, I was going to change coolant this year for the 1st. time but
> > now I"m almost skeered to touch the thing!
> >
>
> I've know some people that are very about cars, but Don is the first that I
> know of to use de-mineralized or distilled water. Makes some sense though
> in some areas where hte water is full of "stuff"