Re: "Black Boxes" in Hyundai's..???
CincyPSU <cincypsu@aol.com> wrote:
> There was a lot of talk in the news today about many of the new car > lines coming equipped with the "black box" recorder right out of the > factory. > Does anyone know if Hyundai uses these devices? Not sure how I feel > about about having one in my car ('04 Sonata) but at the very least > it would be good to know whether or not one is present. As far as I understand, it's been a requirement of all recent cars (at least the last few years). Supposedly, the "black box" doesn't record too much -- only the last few seconds of data, such as how fast you were going, what pedals you were pressing at the time of impact, stuff like that. Moshe -- *** SPAM BLOCK: Remove bra before replying! *** http://runslinux.net :: moshe at runslinux dot net :: AIM: Jehsom |
"Black Boxes" in Hyundai's..???
There was a lot of talk in the news today about many of the new car lines
coming equipped with the "black box" recorder right out of the factory. Does anyone know if Hyundai uses these devices? Not sure how I feel about about having one in my car ('04 Sonata) but at the very least it would be good to know whether or not one is present. G.M. |
Re: "Black Boxes" in Hyundai's..???
On 05 Nov 2004 00:44:01 GMT, cincypsu@aol.com (CincyPSU) wrote:
>There was a lot of talk in the news today about many of the new car lines >coming equipped with the "black box" recorder right out of the factory. > >Does anyone know if Hyundai uses these devices? Not sure how I feel about >about having one in my car ('04 Sonata) but at the very least it would be good >to know whether or not one is present. > > G.M. >===================== We know what you did last summer!! M I B |
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I know of no cars that have black boxes per se, but all modern vehicles
have computers with diagnostic capabilities which require them to retain diagnostic information such as what type of irregularity the computer saw. By law, engine computers in all vehicles 1996 and newer are required to save certain diagnostic data anytime an engine diagnostic code is set (and the check engine lamp illuminated). Among other things, this data includes coolant temperature, load, vehicle speed, and some other things intended to give technicians better success at diagnosing intermittent problems seen by the computer. Many manufacturers supplement this information with more information they feel will be helpful to the technician in diagnosing the vehicle. If you bring your vehicle to me and the check engine lamp came on while you were driving 105 MPH, I would be able to find that out and might ask you why you were driving so fast, but in reality, this information is not important to technicians unless it helps them determine what was going wrong. Every manufacturer I know of records a significant amount of data in the computer during an air bag deployment. This is to help them protect themselves from lawsuits. And, it's entirely possible that the computers are storing things I can't access but that the factory can. They don't need to make everything accessible to the technician. |
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There are currently pilots going on where Insurance companies will give you
a discount. In return you have a black box installed that records your driving habits..... Their goal is to provide lower rates to those who conform to their standards of safe driving, and probably surcharge those who do not. There were a few articles abou this in the news or somewhere recently. -- regards, Michael Abbaticchio MVP for Microsoft Exchange Server http://exchange.mvps.org "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message news:699d534a014c1d43b248ad092cc068ea@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... >I know of no cars that have black boxes per se, but all modern vehicles > have computers with diagnostic capabilities which require them to retain > diagnostic information such as what type of irregularity the computer saw. > By law, engine computers in all vehicles 1996 and newer are required to > save certain diagnostic data anytime an engine diagnostic code is set (and > the check engine lamp illuminated). Among other things, this data > includes > coolant temperature, load, vehicle speed, and some other things intended > to > give technicians better success at diagnosing intermittent problems seen > by > the computer. Many manufacturers supplement this information with more > information they feel will be helpful to the technician in diagnosing the > vehicle. If you bring your vehicle to me and the check engine lamp came > on while you were driving 105 MPH, I would be able to find that out and > might ask you why you were driving so fast, but in reality, this > information is not important to technicians unless it helps them determine > what was going wrong. > > Every manufacturer I know of records a significant amount of data in the > computer during an air bag deployment. This is to help them protect > themselves from lawsuits. And, it's entirely possible that the computers > are storing things I can't access but that the factory can. They don't > need to make everything accessible to the technician. > |
Re: "Black Boxes" in Hyundai's..???
If it is the same as in a Hinda the black box is located in the
sterring wheel under the airbag , you can simply disable it by unplugging the air bag system (Not recommended since it disablse ALL the air bags in the car and your stuck with this annoying AIrbag error lamp) Note Insurance companies WILL use the info in the box when the investigate a serious accident. Import Tuner mag had a mod that allowed you to zero out the info in the black box continously but I forgot what issue it was . |
Re: "Black Boxes" in Hyundai's..???
In article <20041104194401.00362.00000121@mb-m17.aol.com>, cincypsu@aol.com (CincyPSU) wrote:
>There was a lot of talk in the news today about many of the new car lines >coming equipped with the "black box" recorder right out of the factory. > >Does anyone know if Hyundai uses these devices? Not sure how I feel about >about having one in my car ('04 Sonata) but at the very least it would be good >to know whether or not one is present. > > G.M. Actually the "black" box the press is talking about is the Delphi SDM(airbag ECU), mostly in GM and Ford vehicles. There's no separate "box" for storing collision data. Whether the same set of data is recorded in Hyundai or other automakers' airbag computer or not; we just don't know. It's proprietary info. |
Re: "Black Boxes" in Hyundai's..???
On 2004-11-25 23:06:14 -0500, Mad E Moe <madmoe1.nospam@cco.net> said:
> If it is the same as in a Hinda the black box is located in the > sterring wheel under the airbag , you can simply disable it by > unplugging the air bag system (Not recommended since it disablse ALL > the air bags in the car and your stuck with this annoying AIrbag error > lamp) Note Insurance companies WILL use the info in the box when the > investigate a serious accident. Import Tuner mag had a mod that > allowed you to zero out the info in the black box continously but I > forgot what issue it was . Don't drive like an and you will be fine. Go 50 in a 35 zone and T-Bone another car? Tough . -- "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis |
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