Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

Be careful about the oil filter. There's a tech service bulletin about the
'off brand' filters causing lifter noise because they don't have an internal
pressure relief valve and starve the hydraulic lifters. The service manager
said that a customer came in complaining of valve clatter and when they put
it on the lift, it had an after market filter. They voided his warrantee!
Put on a Hyundai filter and the clatter disappeared. Hard to believe.

Hyundai is very serious about doing what they recommend to protect the
warrantee. Same with Kia.

Tom

"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in message
news:SeV4g.4141$Nv3.502@trndny02...
> Its 39.95 at my dealer....the local 10 minute lube joint in town (19.95
> most cars) doesn't yet stock the cannister filter element the v-6 takes. I
> believe the sonata v-6 also takes 7 qts. of oil.
>
>
> <marcnew@execpc.com> wrote in message
> news:1ej7529827d52e1c3uerr5n8j5ar5rmu82@4ax.com...
>>I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
>> change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
>> this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
>> change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
>> additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
>> belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
>> any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?
>
>

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:25:54 GMT, "Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote:

>Its 39.95 at my dealer....the local 10 minute lube joint in town (19.95 most
>cars) doesn't yet stock the cannister filter element the v-6 takes. I
>believe the sonata v-6 also takes 7 qts. of oil.
>
>
><marcnew@execpc.com> wrote in message
>news:1ej7529827d52e1c3uerr5n8j5ar5rmu82@4ax.com.. .
>>I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
>> change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
>> this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
>> change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
>> additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
>> belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
>> any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?
>
They charged for 6 quarts and I checked the dipstick afterwards and it
was at the full mark.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:25:54 GMT, "Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote:

>Its 39.95 at my dealer....the local 10 minute lube joint in town (19.95 most
>cars) doesn't yet stock the cannister filter element the v-6 takes. I
>believe the sonata v-6 also takes 7 qts. of oil.
>
>
><marcnew@execpc.com> wrote in message
>news:1ej7529827d52e1c3uerr5n8j5ar5rmu82@4ax.com.. .
>>I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
>> change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
>> this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
>> change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
>> additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
>> belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
>> any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?
>
They charged for 6 quarts and I checked the dipstick afterwards and it
was at the full mark.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:25:54 GMT, "Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote:

>Its 39.95 at my dealer....the local 10 minute lube joint in town (19.95 most
>cars) doesn't yet stock the cannister filter element the v-6 takes. I
>believe the sonata v-6 also takes 7 qts. of oil.
>
>
><marcnew@execpc.com> wrote in message
>news:1ej7529827d52e1c3uerr5n8j5ar5rmu82@4ax.com.. .
>>I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
>> change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
>> this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
>> change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
>> additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
>> belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
>> any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?
>
They charged for 6 quarts and I checked the dipstick afterwards and it
was at the full mark.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

Just had our Sonata 06 6cyl done as well. We also thought that the oil
change would be as advertised. However a close check on the fine print
on the sales circular Hyundai sent out explains the gouging as
something along the lines of "depending on how your vehicle is
equipped"or something similar.........Doc
Rob wrote:
> I took my 06 Sonata LX to my dealership which had signs posted everywhere
> saying "oil change $21.95" When I went to pay the bill was almost $40. After
> raising hell I still paid almost $40. Their reason was ....It is a 6 cyl.!
> and the filter cartridge is more expensive than a regular oil filter. They
> said signs were for 4 cyl. cars even though it was not on the signs. One
> more time..."Because it is a 6 cyl." what a bunch of crooks.
>
> Rob
>
> <marcnew@execpc.com> wrote in message
> news:1ej7529827d52e1c3uerr5n8j5ar5rmu82@4ax.com...
> >I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
> > change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
> > this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
> > change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
> > additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
> > belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
> > any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

Just had our Sonata 06 6cyl done as well. We also thought that the oil
change would be as advertised. However a close check on the fine print
on the sales circular Hyundai sent out explains the gouging as
something along the lines of "depending on how your vehicle is
equipped"or something similar.........Doc
Rob wrote:
> I took my 06 Sonata LX to my dealership which had signs posted everywhere
> saying "oil change $21.95" When I went to pay the bill was almost $40. After
> raising hell I still paid almost $40. Their reason was ....It is a 6 cyl.!
> and the filter cartridge is more expensive than a regular oil filter. They
> said signs were for 4 cyl. cars even though it was not on the signs. One
> more time..."Because it is a 6 cyl." what a bunch of crooks.
>
> Rob
>
> <marcnew@execpc.com> wrote in message
> news:1ej7529827d52e1c3uerr5n8j5ar5rmu82@4ax.com...
> >I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
> > change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
> > this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
> > change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
> > additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
> > belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
> > any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

Just had our Sonata 06 6cyl done as well. We also thought that the oil
change would be as advertised. However a close check on the fine print
on the sales circular Hyundai sent out explains the gouging as
something along the lines of "depending on how your vehicle is
equipped"or something similar.........Doc
Rob wrote:
> I took my 06 Sonata LX to my dealership which had signs posted everywhere
> saying "oil change $21.95" When I went to pay the bill was almost $40. After
> raising hell I still paid almost $40. Their reason was ....It is a 6 cyl.!
> and the filter cartridge is more expensive than a regular oil filter. They
> said signs were for 4 cyl. cars even though it was not on the signs. One
> more time..."Because it is a 6 cyl." what a bunch of crooks.
>
> Rob
>
> <marcnew@execpc.com> wrote in message
> news:1ej7529827d52e1c3uerr5n8j5ar5rmu82@4ax.com...
> >I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
> > change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
> > this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
> > change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
> > additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
> > belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
> > any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

marcnew@execpc.com wrote:
> I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
> change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
> this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
> change would have been $39.79

The 2006 Sonata V6 uses 6 quarts of oil and a new (more expensive)
canister-type oil filter, this is what makes that service more
expensive than the old models. Given the additional cost of the
materials, it is not reasonable to expect the dealer to do oil changes
at the same price as the earlier models. (By the way, the "new" style
oil filter is actually a throwback, I had a '64 Corvair with a canister
filter and it was certainly not the earliest vehicle to be so equipped.
Everything old is new again!)

I would not take a car to a "Jiffy Lube" type place in order to save
money on oil changes, I've seen too many horror stories come out of
those joints. (For example, some years ago a friend of mine took a new
Subaru to her local Jiffy Lube for an oil change, where they proceeded
to drain the automatic transmission fluid and blindly throw 4
additional quarts of oil into the engine. Needless to say, she did not
get very far down the road and had to sue them for the damage.) A
better choice would be to either take your car to the dealer, to a
knowledgeable and trustworthy independent mechanic, or do it yourself.

In my case, our dealer has an excellent service department and has
always been fair and treated us well when we had our 2000 Sonata, so we
take our new Sonata to them for all servicing. I would rather spend a
few extra bucks and know that the job is going to be done right, plus
they routinely check for and take care of recalls and computer updates
when the car is in.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

marcnew@execpc.com wrote:
> I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
> change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
> this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
> change would have been $39.79

The 2006 Sonata V6 uses 6 quarts of oil and a new (more expensive)
canister-type oil filter, this is what makes that service more
expensive than the old models. Given the additional cost of the
materials, it is not reasonable to expect the dealer to do oil changes
at the same price as the earlier models. (By the way, the "new" style
oil filter is actually a throwback, I had a '64 Corvair with a canister
filter and it was certainly not the earliest vehicle to be so equipped.
Everything old is new again!)

I would not take a car to a "Jiffy Lube" type place in order to save
money on oil changes, I've seen too many horror stories come out of
those joints. (For example, some years ago a friend of mine took a new
Subaru to her local Jiffy Lube for an oil change, where they proceeded
to drain the automatic transmission fluid and blindly throw 4
additional quarts of oil into the engine. Needless to say, she did not
get very far down the road and had to sue them for the damage.) A
better choice would be to either take your car to the dealer, to a
knowledgeable and trustworthy independent mechanic, or do it yourself.

In my case, our dealer has an excellent service department and has
always been fair and treated us well when we had our 2000 Sonata, so we
take our new Sonata to them for all servicing. I would rather spend a
few extra bucks and know that the job is going to be done right, plus
they routinely check for and take care of recalls and computer updates
when the car is in.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

marcnew@execpc.com wrote:
> I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
> change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
> this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
> change would have been $39.79

The 2006 Sonata V6 uses 6 quarts of oil and a new (more expensive)
canister-type oil filter, this is what makes that service more
expensive than the old models. Given the additional cost of the
materials, it is not reasonable to expect the dealer to do oil changes
at the same price as the earlier models. (By the way, the "new" style
oil filter is actually a throwback, I had a '64 Corvair with a canister
filter and it was certainly not the earliest vehicle to be so equipped.
Everything old is new again!)

I would not take a car to a "Jiffy Lube" type place in order to save
money on oil changes, I've seen too many horror stories come out of
those joints. (For example, some years ago a friend of mine took a new
Subaru to her local Jiffy Lube for an oil change, where they proceeded
to drain the automatic transmission fluid and blindly throw 4
additional quarts of oil into the engine. Needless to say, she did not
get very far down the road and had to sue them for the damage.) A
better choice would be to either take your car to the dealer, to a
knowledgeable and trustworthy independent mechanic, or do it yourself.

In my case, our dealer has an excellent service department and has
always been fair and treated us well when we had our 2000 Sonata, so we
take our new Sonata to them for all servicing. I would rather spend a
few extra bucks and know that the job is going to be done right, plus
they routinely check for and take care of recalls and computer updates
when the car is in.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:44:39 -0500, marcnew@execpc.com wrote:

>I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
>change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
>this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
>change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
>additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
>belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
>any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?


Free oil change every 3500 from the dealer. Second time they wanted
to know if I rotated the tires - said no but I would take care of it,
end of coversation. Vision Hyundai, Rochester, NY.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:44:39 -0500, marcnew@execpc.com wrote:

>I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
>change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
>this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
>change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
>additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
>belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
>any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?


Free oil change every 3500 from the dealer. Second time they wanted
to know if I rotated the tires - said no but I would take care of it,
end of coversation. Vision Hyundai, Rochester, NY.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:44:39 -0500, marcnew@execpc.com wrote:

>I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
>change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
>this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
>change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
>additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
>belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
>any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?


Free oil change every 3500 from the dealer. Second time they wanted
to know if I rotated the tires - said no but I would take care of it,
end of coversation. Vision Hyundai, Rochester, NY.

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On 30 Apr 2006 07:04:31 -0700, pdp11@techie.com wrote:


>The 2006 Sonata V6 uses 6 quarts of oil and a new (more expensive)
>canister-type oil filter, this is what makes that service more
>expensive than the old models.

There's no reason for the canister type filters to be more expensive than
spin-on filters. In fact, they should be a little cheaper than spin-on's as
the aftermarket filters come on line.

Nothing we can do about the 6 quart capacity. It makes it real expensive to
use synthetic. I guess more oil capacity improves engine cooling slightly
and perhaps makes the oil retains its lubricating properties a tad longer.
--
Bob

Re: Dealer Oil Change
 

On 30 Apr 2006 07:04:31 -0700, pdp11@techie.com wrote:


>The 2006 Sonata V6 uses 6 quarts of oil and a new (more expensive)
>canister-type oil filter, this is what makes that service more
>expensive than the old models.

There's no reason for the canister type filters to be more expensive than
spin-on filters. In fact, they should be a little cheaper than spin-on's as
the aftermarket filters come on line.

Nothing we can do about the 6 quart capacity. It makes it real expensive to
use synthetic. I guess more oil capacity improves engine cooling slightly
and perhaps makes the oil retains its lubricating properties a tad longer.
--
Bob