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Partner 10-12-2009 10:35 PM

Dealers not dealing
 
I went out today with a friend to try to buy a new Hyundai. We went to 3
dealers including one that I have bought 2 Sonatas from in the last 5 years.
They are not dealing at all. They would basically take the list price
(sometimes the invoice) and subtract the rebate and try to sell it at that
price. No amount of haggling and counter offers could get them to budge. We
did get them to go down another $400 when working on a 2009 Elantra. We
went from 2010 Sonata, 2009 Sonata, 2010 Elantra to 2009 Elantra. They just
didn't want to sell at all. I am used to getting a least 2K plus rebate off
of the invoice. We stopped by a Toyota dealer and without any haggling he
got an offer to buy a Corolla cheaper than the Elantra. The Camry was
almost the same price as the Sonata. He's owned a Toyota before and I think
he's probably going to wind up with another one. I think they sold so many
cars during the cash for clunkers that they are not very hungry. They didn't
have very many 2009s left, the C4C pretty much cleaned them out. Has any
one else run across this problem, I'm wondering how long this is going to
last. If its permanent, I may have to look elsewhere for my next car.
Anyone got a good deal in the last couple months?
Does anyone know how the Manufactures' incentive (dealers payback) program
works? I figure that the dealers have already hit the numbers they need for
the max incentive payback for this year. Maybe it will reset at the
beginning of the next year.


Raoul 10-13-2009 07:16 PM

Re: Dealers not dealing
 
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:35:32 -0400, "Partner" <someone@comcast.net>
wrote:

> We did get them to go down another $400 when working on a 2009 Elantra. We
>went from 2010 Sonata, 2009 Sonata, 2010 Elantra to 2009 Elantra. They just
>didn't want to sell at all. I am used to getting a least 2K plus rebate off
>of the invoice. We stopped by a Toyota dealer and without any haggling he
>got an offer to buy a Corolla cheaper than the Elantra. The Camry was
>almost the same price as the Sonata. He's owned a Toyota before and I think
>he's probably going to wind up with another one. I think they sold so many
>cars during the cash for clunkers that they are not very hungry. They didn't
>have very many 2009s left, the C4C pretty much cleaned them out. Has any
>one else run across this problem, I'm wondering how long this is going to
>last. If its permanent, I may have to look elsewhere for my next car.
>Anyone got a good deal in the last couple months?


At this point there are probably not a lot of '09s left. I bought an
Accent a month ago (just after the C4C nonsense ended) and got a very
good deal, although they had to get it from a dealer app 200 miles
away to find the car I wanted. Google Hyundai September Sales to see
how sales dropped (or not) compared to August. I think it is fair to
say that the dealers are still hungry for sales. What area of the
country are you in?

Partner 10-13-2009 07:59 PM

Re: Dealers not dealing
 

"Raoul" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
news:2a2ad5p0fre37j06puvn085qn65o2qvenl@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:35:32 -0400, "Partner" <someone@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> We did get them to go down another $400 when working on a 2009 Elantra.
>> We
>>went from 2010 Sonata, 2009 Sonata, 2010 Elantra to 2009 Elantra. They
>>just
>>didn't want to sell at all. I am used to getting a least 2K plus rebate
>>off
>>of the invoice. We stopped by a Toyota dealer and without any haggling he
>>got an offer to buy a Corolla cheaper than the Elantra. The Camry was
>>almost the same price as the Sonata. He's owned a Toyota before and I
>>think
>>he's probably going to wind up with another one. I think they sold so
>>many
>>cars during the cash for clunkers that they are not very hungry. They
>>didn't
>>have very many 2009s left, the C4C pretty much cleaned them out. Has any
>>one else run across this problem, I'm wondering how long this is going to
>>last. If its permanent, I may have to look elsewhere for my next car.
>>Anyone got a good deal in the last couple months?

>
> At this point there are probably not a lot of '09s left. I bought an
> Accent a month ago (just after the C4C nonsense ended) and got a very
> good deal, although they had to get it from a dealer app 200 miles
> away to find the car I wanted. Google Hyundai September Sales to see
> how sales dropped (or not) compared to August. I think it is fair to
> say that the dealers are still hungry for sales. What area of the
> country are you in?


Baltimore/Washington D.C.


hyundaitech 10-14-2009 01:33 AM

Re: Dealers not dealing
 
On Oct 13, 7:59 pm, "Partner" <some...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Raoul" <x...@xxx.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2a2ad5p0fre37j06puvn085qn65o2qvenl@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:35:32 -0400, "Partner" <some...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:

>
> >> We did get them to go down another $400 when working on a 2009 Elantra..
> >> We
> >>went from 2010 Sonata, 2009 Sonata, 2010 Elantra to 2009 Elantra. They
> >>just
> >>didn't want to sell at all. I am used to getting a least 2K plus rebate
> >>off
> >>of the invoice. We stopped by a Toyota dealer and without any haggling he
> >>got an offer to buy a Corolla cheaper than the Elantra. The Camry was
> >>almost the same price as the Sonata. He's owned a Toyota before and I
> >>think
> >>he's probably going to wind up with another one. I think they sold so
> >>many
> >>cars during the cash for clunkers that they are not very hungry. They
> >>didn't
> >>have very many 2009s left, the C4C pretty much cleaned them out. Hasany
> >>one else run across this problem, I'm wondering how long this is going to
> >>last. If its permanent, I may have to look elsewhere for my next car..
> >>Anyone got a good deal in the last couple months?

>
> > At this point there are probably not a lot of '09s left. I bought an
> > Accent a month ago (just after the C4C nonsense ended) and got a very
> > good deal, although they had to get it from a dealer app 200 miles
> > away to find the car I wanted. Google Hyundai September Sales to see
> > how sales dropped (or not) compared to August. I think it is fair to
> > say that the dealers are still hungry for sales. What area of the
> > country are you in?

>
> Baltimore/Washington D.C.


Check fitzmall.com. This is a fixed-price dealer, so you won't be
able to negotiate, but I send people here to get an idea of current
market prices. If you can beat their price, consider you've received
a good deal in the current market.

Right now, many dealers are low on stock after C4C, so they're careful
not to undervalue their product. Once supplies go back up, their
prices will come down.

Real Man 10-15-2009 12:43 AM

Re: Dealers not dealing
 
Go to www.autobrag.com
Tell them what you want to pay and let em come to you.








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