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Larry W 10-09-2009 07:33 PM

Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009 Sonata V6.

Any words of wisdom from the group on:

what I need to do to maintain my warranty?

any filter brands to avoid?


Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?


TIA,

Larry

Voyager 10-09-2009 09:00 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Larry W wrote:
> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009 Sonata
> V6.
>
> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>
> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>
> any filter brands to avoid?
>
>
> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Larry


Avoid Fram, at least the low-end Fram filters. I'm also leery of brands
such as Wal-Mart's "Tech." Do a search on oil changes and you will find
a lot of information.

Ed Pawlowski 10-09-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 

"Larry W" <lwinkler@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:haoh8e$219$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009 Sonata
> V6.
>
> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>
> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>
> any filter brands to avoid?
>
>
> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Larry


Only thing you have to do is use the proper oil as called for by the manual.

I've bought filters from the dealer for the same price at the local auto
parts store because there is a limited selection for the Sonata. They also
give me a new washer for the drain plug so it may be replaced at each
change. By saving the dealer receipts, it is also evidence of change if
documentation would ever be needed under the warranty.

I change every 7500 miles per the manual for my type of driving. No oil use
between changes yet either.
One more thing, you say it is straightforward. You do know the filter is on
top I assume? Open a free account of www.hmaservice.com and get the diagram
of the location and instructions.

You'll like the performance from the V-6 too. Very good acceleration.



Larry W 10-10-2009 11:14 AM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Voyager wrote:
> Larry W wrote:
>> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009
>> Sonata V6.
>>
>> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>>
>> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>>
>> any filter brands to avoid?
>>
>>
>> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Larry

>
> Avoid Fram, at least the low-end Fram filters. I'm also leery of brands
> such as Wal-Mart's "Tech." Do a search on oil changes and you will find
> a lot of information.


Thanks for the reply.

Do you know exactly what it is about Fram that people do not like? This
filter is very simple, just a cylinder of filter material.


Larry W 10-10-2009 11:21 AM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Larry W" <lwinkler@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:haoh8e$219$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009 Sonata
>> V6.
>>
>> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>>
>> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>>
>> any filter brands to avoid?
>>
>>
>> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Larry

>
> Only thing you have to do is use the proper oil as called for by the manual.
>
> I've bought filters from the dealer for the same price at the local auto
> parts store because there is a limited selection for the Sonata. They also
> give me a new washer for the drain plug so it may be replaced at each
> change. By saving the dealer receipts, it is also evidence of change if
> documentation would ever be needed under the warranty.
>
> I change every 7500 miles per the manual for my type of driving. No oil use
> between changes yet either.
> One more thing, you say it is straightforward. You do know the filter is on
> top I assume? Open a free account of www.hmaservice.com and get the diagram
> of the location and instructions.
>
> You'll like the performance from the V-6 too. Very good acceleration.
>
>


Thanks for the response. I know the filter is on top, that's what makes
the job easier, no lying on my back under a car removing and replacing a
filter I cannot see in a hard to access area.

Was going to buy a 4cyl Sonata but a test drive in the V6 changed my mind.

SB 10-10-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Larry W wrote:
> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009 Sonata
> V6.
>
> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>
> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>
> any filter brands to avoid?


I prefer Purolator Pure One. Google oil filter ratings or comparison
and you see why there is a difference between Fram and others as well.

I've usually found the hyundai forum http://www.hyundai-forums.com more
useful than hmaservice.com YMMV. This I found there:
http://www.amdmaddness.com/sonata/misc.htm which lead to this:
http://www.amdmaddness.com/sonata/ts...oil_change.pdf

SB 10-10-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
SB wrote:
> Larry W wrote:
>> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009 Sonata
>> V6.
>>
>> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>>
>> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>>
>> any filter brands to avoid?

>
> I prefer Purolator Pure One. Google oil filter ratings or comparison
> and you see why there is a difference between Fram and others as well.
>
> I've usually found the hyundai forum http://www.hyundai-forums.com more
> useful than hmaservice.com YMMV. This I found there:
> http://www.amdmaddness.com/sonata/misc.htm which lead to this:
> http://www.amdmaddness.com/sonata/ts...oil_change.pdf


PS. I should add that the Purolator Pure One is not available yet for
the '09 Sonata 6 cyl, however the regular Purolator cartridge is.

Voyager 10-11-2009 05:27 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Larry W wrote:
> Voyager wrote:
>> Larry W wrote:
>>> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009
>>> Sonata V6.
>>>
>>> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>>>
>>> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>>>
>>> any filter brands to avoid?
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Larry

>>
>> Avoid Fram, at least the low-end Fram filters. I'm also leery of
>> brands such as Wal-Mart's "Tech." Do a search on oil changes and you
>> will find a lot of information.

>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Do you know exactly what it is about Fram that people do not like? This
> filter is very simple, just a cylinder of filter material.
>


Do a Google. There are a few folks who have torn down and inspected a
number of filter brands. The insides of the cheap Fram filters are
really cheap. Things such as less filter media than better brands,
cardboard end plates rather than metal (although I'm not convinced that
this is so bad since the filter media is paper-based also), el cheapo
anti-drainback valve that often leaks (this IS very bad), etc.

If you think an oil filter is just a cylinder of paper, you may not know
enough about engines to be doing your own maintenance work.

Matt

Larry W 10-11-2009 07:42 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Voyager wrote:
> Larry W wrote:
>> Voyager wrote:
>>> Larry W wrote:
>>>> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009
>>>> Sonata V6.
>>>>
>>>> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>>>>
>>>> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>>>>
>>>> any filter brands to avoid?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Avoid Fram, at least the low-end Fram filters. I'm also leery of
>>> brands such as Wal-Mart's "Tech." Do a search on oil changes and you
>>> will find a lot of information.

>>
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> Do you know exactly what it is about Fram that people do not like?
>> This filter is very simple, just a cylinder of filter material.
>>

>
> Do a Google. There are a few folks who have torn down and inspected a
> number of filter brands. The insides of the cheap Fram filters are
> really cheap. Things such as less filter media than better brands,
> cardboard end plates rather than metal (although I'm not convinced that
> this is so bad since the filter media is paper-based also), el cheapo
> anti-drainback valve that often leaks (this IS very bad), etc.
>
> If you think an oil filter is just a cylinder of paper, you may not know
> enough about engines to be doing your own maintenance work.
>
> Matt


Filter for the v6 is a cartridge type and truly is a cylinder of filter
media with 2 plastic end caps. Picture of filter is at:

http://www.power-21.com/FramPower21i...?b=F&pn=CH9999

Assuming the dimensions are correct the only problem area would be the
filter media, too little or lets too large particles through. Visual
comparison of a Fram filter to Purolator and NAPA equivalents show no
obvious difference in the filter media. There are no cardboard pieces
or anti-drainback valves to worry about.

Google search has such a variety of opinions that do not help me reach a
conclusion I can believe in.

Voyager 10-11-2009 08:41 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
Larry W wrote:
> Voyager wrote:
>> Larry W wrote:
>>> Voyager wrote:
>>>> Larry W wrote:
>>>>> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009
>>>>> Sonata V6.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>>>>>
>>>>> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>>>>>
>>>>> any filter brands to avoid?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out for?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> Avoid Fram, at least the low-end Fram filters. I'm also leery of
>>>> brands such as Wal-Mart's "Tech." Do a search on oil changes and
>>>> you will find a lot of information.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> Do you know exactly what it is about Fram that people do not like?
>>> This filter is very simple, just a cylinder of filter material.
>>>

>>
>> Do a Google. There are a few folks who have torn down and inspected a
>> number of filter brands. The insides of the cheap Fram filters are
>> really cheap. Things such as less filter media than better brands,
>> cardboard end plates rather than metal (although I'm not convinced
>> that this is so bad since the filter media is paper-based also), el
>> cheapo anti-drainback valve that often leaks (this IS very bad), etc.
>>
>> If you think an oil filter is just a cylinder of paper, you may not
>> know enough about engines to be doing your own maintenance work.
>>
>> Matt

>
> Filter for the v6 is a cartridge type and truly is a cylinder of filter
> media with 2 plastic end caps. Picture of filter is at:
>
> http://www.power-21.com/FramPower21i...?b=F&pn=CH9999
>
> Assuming the dimensions are correct the only problem area would be the
> filter media, too little or lets too large particles through. Visual
> comparison of a Fram filter to Purolator and NAPA equivalents show no
> obvious difference in the filter media. There are no cardboard pieces
> or anti-drainback valves to worry about.
>
> Google search has such a variety of opinions that do not help me reach a
> conclusion I can believe in.


I missed that you had the V-6. If Fram cuts corners in their spin-on
filters, why do you think they use a different philosophy in their
cartridge filters? However, it is your car so buy what you want. If
you didn't plan to take anyone's advice here, why did you waste our time
asking for it?

Matt

Striker 10-13-2009 05:36 PM

Re: Doing My Own Oil Changes
 
I buy 10 filters at a time and get Hyundai filters just as cheap as
aftermarket filters
https://www.hyundaipartsonline.com/index.php

Striker


"Voyager" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:PWuAm.13509$eJ4.56@newsfe07.iad...
> Larry W wrote:
>> Voyager wrote:
>>> Larry W wrote:
>>>> Voyager wrote:
>>>>> Larry W wrote:
>>>>>> Planning on doing my own oil changes on a recently purchased 2009
>>>>>> Sonata V6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any words of wisdom from the group on:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what I need to do to maintain my warranty?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any filter brands to avoid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems straight forward but are there any things I should look out
>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> Avoid Fram, at least the low-end Fram filters. I'm also leery of
>>>>> brands such as Wal-Mart's "Tech." Do a search on oil changes and you
>>>>> will find a lot of information.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know exactly what it is about Fram that people do not like?
>>>> This filter is very simple, just a cylinder of filter material.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do a Google. There are a few folks who have torn down and inspected a
>>> number of filter brands. The insides of the cheap Fram filters are
>>> really cheap. Things such as less filter media than better brands,
>>> cardboard end plates rather than metal (although I'm not convinced that
>>> this is so bad since the filter media is paper-based also), el cheapo
>>> anti-drainback valve that often leaks (this IS very bad), etc.
>>>
>>> If you think an oil filter is just a cylinder of paper, you may not know
>>> enough about engines to be doing your own maintenance work.
>>>
>>> Matt

>>
>> Filter for the v6 is a cartridge type and truly is a cylinder of filter
>> media with 2 plastic end caps. Picture of filter is at:
>>
>> http://www.power-21.com/FramPower21i...?b=F&pn=CH9999
>>
>> Assuming the dimensions are correct the only problem area would be the
>> filter media, too little or lets too large particles through. Visual
>> comparison of a Fram filter to Purolator and NAPA equivalents show no
>> obvious difference in the filter media. There are no cardboard pieces or
>> anti-drainback valves to worry about.
>>
>> Google search has such a variety of opinions that do not help me reach a
>> conclusion I can believe in.

>
> I missed that you had the V-6. If Fram cuts corners in their spin-on
> filters, why do you think they use a different philosophy in their
> cartridge filters? However, it is your car so buy what you want. If you
> didn't plan to take anyone's advice here, why did you waste our time
> asking for it?
>
> Matt





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