Re: Elantra 2005 seat belt warning light
 

Jack Cassidy wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vBIlf.3340$605.1672@trndny09...
>
>>Robert wrote:
>>
>>>I seldom use my seat belts, and the blinking warning light on the dash
>>>is very distracting. Does anyone know of an easy way to disable the
>>>light other than removing the bulb? Thanks in advance.
>>>bobmichaeal@gmail.com
>>
>>Why not just quit being ridiculous and buckle up? What's it going to take
>>to convince you that's the smart - and responsible - thing to do?
>>
>>Sheesh, you must be a smoker... ;-)
>
>
> While it may be smart and responsible to use it, I wonder why people think
> it's okay for the government to try to protect you from yourself. I
> understand why they have laws requiring children to be buckled in but if one
> is old enough to drive and presumably get a drivers license, why is that
> anybody's business but his if he chooses to assume the risks?

I strongly believe in and encourage personal freedom and responsibility.
Unfortunately, thanks largely to trial lawyers, the general public is
more interested in abdicating responsibility, while complaining if their
freedoms are abridged. They want to be able to blame others for their
actions (the "victim mentality") and cash in on huge lawsuits. As the
saying goes, "Freedom is not free." and you CANNOT have freedom without
responsibility. If people are not willing to accept responsibility for
their actions, they have to expect government to to abridge their
freedom in order to reduce the burden their irresponsibility creates on
society. WE are the problem. More specifically, our GREED is the
problem. If you want to do something about it, live responsibly and work
for tort reform that will make irresponsible behavior less profitable.

Re: Elantra 2005 seat belt warning light
 

Jack Cassidy wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vBIlf.3340$605.1672@trndny09...
>
>>Robert wrote:
>>
>>>I seldom use my seat belts, and the blinking warning light on the dash
>>>is very distracting. Does anyone know of an easy way to disable the
>>>light other than removing the bulb? Thanks in advance.
>>>bobmichaeal@gmail.com
>>
>>Why not just quit being ridiculous and buckle up? What's it going to take
>>to convince you that's the smart - and responsible - thing to do?
>>
>>Sheesh, you must be a smoker... ;-)
>
>
> While it may be smart and responsible to use it, I wonder why people think
> it's okay for the government to try to protect you from yourself. I
> understand why they have laws requiring children to be buckled in but if one
> is old enough to drive and presumably get a drivers license, why is that
> anybody's business but his if he chooses to assume the risks?

I strongly believe in and encourage personal freedom and responsibility.
Unfortunately, thanks largely to trial lawyers, the general public is
more interested in abdicating responsibility, while complaining if their
freedoms are abridged. They want to be able to blame others for their
actions (the "victim mentality") and cash in on huge lawsuits. As the
saying goes, "Freedom is not free." and you CANNOT have freedom without
responsibility. If people are not willing to accept responsibility for
their actions, they have to expect government to to abridge their
freedom in order to reduce the burden their irresponsibility creates on
society. WE are the problem. More specifically, our GREED is the
problem. If you want to do something about it, live responsibly and work
for tort reform that will make irresponsible behavior less profitable.

Re: Elantra 2005 seat belt warning light
 

"Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Isumf.4087$md.3600@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>
> Because, unless you can guaranty that:
> a).- You will be dead after the crash.

What does that matter Victor? Can you guarantee that the driver will not be
dead with the seat belt in use? No.

> b).- You will NOT hurt others or destroy propriety.

Irrelevant. Seat belts have nothing to do with property damage. Nor does
wearing one's seat belt have anything to do with hurting others.

> c).- You will pay all the cost, from your own pocket.

He will - to the same extent that you or I will pay from our own pockets for
anything we get into.

>
> We, will end paying for parts of your actions .....

What is the added cost to you that you claim? Nothing more than what any
other accident on the street would create. This has long been a claim of
those who have no real supporting argument for why an individual should
buckle up, but it has also long been a baseless point. Simply, if one such
as the OP has some philosophical hang up about his freedoms being infringed
upon and all that, then fine, exercise your freedom. If the simple fact
that seat belts do reduce injury and death does not appeal to the OP, then
fine, prove it to yourself. Some philosophical points just don't merit the
ultimate outcome, but the real test of reason is in the ability to discern
that.


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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Elantra 2005 seat belt warning light
 

"Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Isumf.4087$md.3600@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>
> Because, unless you can guaranty that:
> a).- You will be dead after the crash.

What does that matter Victor? Can you guarantee that the driver will not be
dead with the seat belt in use? No.

> b).- You will NOT hurt others or destroy propriety.

Irrelevant. Seat belts have nothing to do with property damage. Nor does
wearing one's seat belt have anything to do with hurting others.

> c).- You will pay all the cost, from your own pocket.

He will - to the same extent that you or I will pay from our own pockets for
anything we get into.

>
> We, will end paying for parts of your actions .....

What is the added cost to you that you claim? Nothing more than what any
other accident on the street would create. This has long been a claim of
those who have no real supporting argument for why an individual should
buckle up, but it has also long been a baseless point. Simply, if one such
as the OP has some philosophical hang up about his freedoms being infringed
upon and all that, then fine, exercise your freedom. If the simple fact
that seat belts do reduce injury and death does not appeal to the OP, then
fine, prove it to yourself. Some philosophical points just don't merit the
ultimate outcome, but the real test of reason is in the ability to discern
that.


--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Elantra 2005 seat belt warning light
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lUAmf.71$b57.49@trndny06...
>
>
> I strongly believe in and encourage personal freedom and responsibility.
> Unfortunately, thanks largely to trial lawyers, the general public is
> more interested in abdicating responsibility, while complaining if their
> freedoms are abridged. They want to be able to blame others for their
> actions (the "victim mentality") and cash in on huge lawsuits. As the
> saying goes, "Freedom is not free." and you CANNOT have freedom without
> responsibility. If people are not willing to accept responsibility for
> their actions, they have to expect government to to abridge their
> freedom in order to reduce the burden their irresponsibility creates on
> society. WE are the problem. More specifically, our GREED is the
> problem. If you want to do something about it, live responsibly and work
> for tort reform that will make irresponsible behavior less profitable.

That was so good that I'll buy you a..... no wait... it was so good that
*you* get to buy the beer!

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Elantra 2005 seat belt warning light
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lUAmf.71$b57.49@trndny06...
>
>
> I strongly believe in and encourage personal freedom and responsibility.
> Unfortunately, thanks largely to trial lawyers, the general public is
> more interested in abdicating responsibility, while complaining if their
> freedoms are abridged. They want to be able to blame others for their
> actions (the "victim mentality") and cash in on huge lawsuits. As the
> saying goes, "Freedom is not free." and you CANNOT have freedom without
> responsibility. If people are not willing to accept responsibility for
> their actions, they have to expect government to to abridge their
> freedom in order to reduce the burden their irresponsibility creates on
> society. WE are the problem. More specifically, our GREED is the
> problem. If you want to do something about it, live responsibly and work
> for tort reform that will make irresponsible behavior less profitable.

That was so good that I'll buy you a..... no wait... it was so good that
*you* get to buy the beer!

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net