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avn 03-11-2008 06:09 PM

Elantra Engine Mount
 
While carrying routine maintenance I noticed the right hand side engine
mount strap bolt seems to be loose.

I re-torqued the bolt but it is still not seated properly. The only time
I can think I had maintenance done that would involve the bolt is when
the dealer changed timing belt.

I have attached photo, can someone take a quick look at their mount and
see if it is the same?





http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...2GTElantra.jpg

Vic Garcia 03-11-2008 06:52 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
avn wrote:
> While carrying routine maintenance I noticed the right hand side
> engine mount strap bolt seems to be loose.
>
> I re-torqued the bolt but it is still not seated properly. The only
> time I can think I had maintenance done that would involve the bolt is
> when the dealer changed timing belt.
>
> I have attached photo, can someone take a quick look at their mount
> and see if it is the same?
>
> http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...2GTElantra.jpg


Yours looks like the rust under it does not allow to go in all the way,
my wife 02GLS has it flat down over the metal, but had no rust at all,
still with the black paint from the factory.

avn 03-11-2008 08:35 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
Vic Garcia wrote:
> avn wrote:
>> While carrying routine maintenance I noticed the right hand side
>> engine mount strap bolt seems to be loose.
>>
>> I re-torqued the bolt but it is still not seated properly. The only
>> time I can think I had maintenance done that would involve the bolt is
>> when the dealer changed timing belt.
>>
>> I have attached photo, can someone take a quick look at their mount
>> and see if it is the same?
>>
>> http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...2GTElantra.jpg

>
> Yours looks like the rust under it does not allow to go in all the way,
> my wife 02GLS has it flat down over the metal, but had no rust at all,
> still with the black paint from the factory.


I sprayed it down with PB before torquing, the bolt is as torqued
correctly The part it bolts into does not allow for the threads to
protrude out the bottom. I will drop into dealer in the morning order
correct bolt.

The car is undercoated Eastern Canada hard on a vehicle.

avn 03-11-2008 08:49 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
Vic Garcia wrote:
> avn wrote:
>> While carrying routine maintenance I noticed the right hand side
>> engine mount strap bolt seems to be loose.
>>
>> I re-torqued the bolt but it is still not seated properly. The only
>> time I can think I had maintenance done that would involve the bolt is
>> when the dealer changed timing belt.
>>
>> I have attached photo, can someone take a quick look at their mount
>> and see if it is the same?
>>
>> http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...2GTElantra.jpg

>
> Yours looks like the rust under it does not allow to go in all the way,
> my wife 02GLS has it flat down over the metal, but had no rust at all,
> still with the black paint from the factory.


I sprayed it down with PB before torquing, the bolt is torqued
correctly The part it bolts into does not allow for the threads to
protrude out the bottom. I will drop into dealer in the morning order
correct bolt.

The car is undercoated Eastern Canada hard on a vehicle.

hyundaitech 03-11-2008 09:45 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
The bolt is probably frozen (rusted) in place or crossthreaded. I agree
that about the only time you'd need to remove this bolt is when replacing
the water pump or timing belt.

While it's certainly not right, the good news is that it's not critical.
I can't remember for certain what the bolt stabilizes, but I believe it's
the a/c compressor bracket.

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avn 03-11-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
hyundaitech wrote:
> The bolt is probably frozen (rusted) in place or crossthreaded. I agree
> that about the only time you'd need to remove this bolt is when replacing
> the water pump or timing belt.
>
> While it's certainly not right, the good news is that it's not critical.
> I can't remember for certain what the bolt stabilizes, but I believe it's
> the a/c compressor bracket.
>
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Thanks I will have a better feeling driving to work in the morning.



Vic Garcia 03-12-2008 04:16 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
avn wrote:
> Vic Garcia wrote:
>> avn wrote:
>>> While carrying routine maintenance I noticed the right hand side
>>> engine mount strap bolt seems to be loose.
>>>
>>> I re-torqued the bolt but it is still not seated properly. The only
>>> time I can think I had maintenance done that would involve the bolt
>>> is when the dealer changed timing belt.
>>>
>>> I have attached photo, can someone take a quick look at their mount
>>> and see if it is the same?
>>>
>>> http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...2GTElantra.jpg

>>
>> Yours looks like the rust under it does not allow to go in all the
>> way, my wife 02GLS has it flat down over the metal, but had no rust
>> at all, still with the black paint from the factory.

>
> I sprayed it down with PB before torquing, the bolt is torqued
> correctly The part it bolts into does not allow for the threads to
> protrude out the bottom. I will drop into dealer in the morning order
> correct bolt.

Checked mine again, the threads do NOT protrude out the bottom, just
flat at it. As Hyundaitech said, that piece just hold the A/C
compressor, so nothing critical, it you can remove the Z shaped piece
and grind it to flatten the surfaces, will be OK.

> The car is undercoated Eastern Canada hard on a vehicle.

Yup looks like salty roads all over, another reason I love Florida,
hurricanes are over in 36 hours, Canada winters are 8-9 months long
(winter, for Floridians, is anytime temp is below +50 F, +10 C).

avn 03-12-2008 04:42 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
Vic Garcia wrote:
> avn wrote:
>> Vic Garcia wrote:
>>> avn wrote:
>>>> While carrying routine maintenance I noticed the right hand side
>>>> engine mount strap bolt seems to be loose.
>>>>
>>>> I re-torqued the bolt but it is still not seated properly. The only
>>>> time I can think I had maintenance done that would involve the bolt
>>>> is when the dealer changed timing belt.
>>>>
>>>> I have attached photo, can someone take a quick look at their mount
>>>> and see if it is the same?
>>>>
>>>> http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...2GTElantra.jpg
>>>
>>> Yours looks like the rust under it does not allow to go in all the
>>> way, my wife 02GLS has it flat down over the metal, but had no rust
>>> at all, still with the black paint from the factory.

>>
>> I sprayed it down with PB before torquing, the bolt is torqued
>> correctly The part it bolts into does not allow for the threads to
>> protrude out the bottom. I will drop into dealer in the morning order
>> correct bolt.

> Checked mine again, the threads do NOT protrude out the bottom, just
> flat at it. As Hyundaitech said, that piece just hold the A/C
> compressor, so nothing critical, it you can remove the Z shaped piece
> and grind it to flatten the surfaces, will be OK.
>
>> The car is undercoated Eastern Canada hard on a vehicle.

> Yup looks like salty roads all over, another reason I love Florida,
> hurricanes are over in 36 hours, Canada winters are 8-9 months long
> (winter, for Floridians, is anytime temp is below +50 F, +10 C).



We don't have summer just 3 bad months of snowmobiling lol.

hyundaitech 03-12-2008 06:14 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
I replaced one of these timing belts today, so I had a good close look at
the bracket in question. It just bolts directly onto the block, as does
the a/c compressor. So it doesn't even support the a/c compressor. I
suppose it's possible it's intended to support the main mount bracket when
subjected to powertrain torque, but since the main bracket where it
attaches to the engine is about 6 square inches, I don't see how it would
need additional support. For my money, the bracket in question is
nonfunctional. But I'm sure some engineer somewhere can explain why he
thought it was necessary.

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avn 03-12-2008 07:52 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
hyundaitech wrote:
> I replaced one of these timing belts today, so I had a good close look at
> the bracket in question. It just bolts directly onto the block, as does
> the a/c compressor. So it doesn't even support the a/c compressor. I
> suppose it's possible it's intended to support the main mount bracket when
> subjected to powertrain torque, but since the main bracket where it
> attaches to the engine is about 6 square inches, I don't see how it would
> need additional support. For my money, the bracket in question is
> nonfunctional. But I'm sure some engineer somewhere can explain why he
> thought it was necessary.
>
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So if I take bolt out to check threads and depth there is no need to
support engine?

hyundaitech 03-13-2008 12:10 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
Nope. If you take a good look at it, you'll see this bracket doesn't
support the engine at all.

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avn 03-13-2008 05:50 PM

Re: Elantra Engine Mount
 
hyundaitech wrote:
> Nope. If you take a good look at it, you'll see this bracket doesn't
> support the engine at all.
>
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>

Thanks for the info after supper project.


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