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Nehmo 03-17-2009 08:24 PM

Electrical Prob. '95 Hyundai Sonata, no fire
 
Driving down the road, the winshild wippers went very fast (although
they were off), then the engine failed.
The 100 amp fuse is blown, but now repalced it doesn't blow. Also the
stop light fuse was blown, but when I replace that, the key doesn't
come out. I pull out the fuse and the key will come out.
I'm not getting spark, and, of course, the car won't start.
The black/white wire from the ignition to the coil is hot as it should
be. Anybody with any ideas, call 913 602 6009 or post. I'm only
borowing this connection, and I have to end now.
What's my next step? What should I check next? And I can't take the
car anywhere.*I* have to fix it.
Thanks, Nehmo

hyundaitech 03-17-2009 11:20 PM

Re: Electrical Prob. '95 Hyundai Sonata, no fire
 
On Mar 17, 8:24 pm, Nehmo <nehm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Driving down the road, the winshild wippers went very fast (although
> they were off), then the engine failed.
> The 100 amp fuse is blown, but now repalced it doesn't blow. Also the
> stop light fuse was blown, but when I replace that, the key doesn't
> come out. I pull out the fuse and the key will come out.
> I'm not getting spark, and, of course, the car won't start.
> The black/white wire from the ignition to the coil is hot as it should
> be. Anybody with any ideas, call 913 602 6009 or post. I'm only
> borowing this connection, and I have to end now.
> What's my next step? What should I check next? And I can't take the
> car anywhere.*I* have to fix it.
> Thanks, Nehmo


Did any of these problems exist prior to the windshield wiper problem?

Does the check engine lamp illuminate when the key is turned to the
"on" position?

Did the air bag lamp come on?

Wipers, engine management, stop lamps/key interlock don't have much to
do with each other. Possible overvoltage from alternator killing
numerous electrical/electronic devices.

Nehmo 03-25-2009 07:10 PM

Re: Electrical Prob. '95 Hyundai Sonata, no fire
 
On Mar 17, 10:20 pm, hyundaitech <hyundaim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 8:24 pm,Nehmo<nehm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Driving down the road, the winshild wippers went very fast (although
> > they were off), then the engine failed.
> > The 100 amp fuse is blown, but now repalced it doesn't blow. Also the
> > stop light fuse was blown, but when I replace that, the key doesn't
> > come out. I pull out the fuse and the key will come out.
> > I'm not getting spark, and, of course, the car won't start.
> > The black/white wire from the ignition to the coil is hot as it should
> > be. Anybody with any ideas, call 913 602 6009 or post. I'm only
> > borowing this connection, and I have to end now.
> > What's my next step? What should I check next? And I can't take the
> > car anywhere.*I* have to fix it.
> > Thanks,Nehmo

>
> Did any of these problems exist prior to the windshield wiper problem?
>
> Does the check engine lamp illuminate when the key is turned to the
> "on" position?
>
> Did the air bag lamp come on?
>
> Wipers, engine management, stop lamps/key interlock don't have much to
> do with each other. Possible overvoltage from alternator killing
> numerous electrical/electronic devices.


The ignition modual (power transtor?) above the spark coil seemed to
fail a bench test. Unfortunately, I'm not confident of the way a store
clerk tested it.
I'll look at the engine management light.
Nehmo

hyundaitech 03-28-2009 05:51 AM

Re: Electrical Prob. '95 Hyundai Sonata, no fire
 
On Mar 25, 7:10 pm, Nehmo <nehm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 10:20 pm, hyundaitech <hyundaim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 8:24 pm,Nehmo<nehm...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > Driving down the road, the winshild wippers went very fast (although
> > > they were off), then the engine failed.
> > > The 100 amp fuse is blown, but now repalced it doesn't blow. Also the
> > > stop light fuse was blown, but when I replace that, the key doesn't
> > > come out. I pull out the fuse and the key will come out.
> > > I'm not getting spark, and, of course, the car won't start.
> > > The black/white wire from the ignition to the coil is hot as it should
> > > be. Anybody with any ideas, call 913 602 6009 or post. I'm only
> > > borowing this connection, and I have to end now.
> > > What's my next step? What should I check next? And I can't take the
> > > car anywhere.*I* have to fix it.
> > > Thanks,Nehmo

>
> > Did any of these problems exist prior to the windshield wiper problem?

>
> > Does the check engine lamp illuminate when the key is turned to the
> > "on" position?

>
> > Did the air bag lamp come on?

>
> > Wipers, engine management, stop lamps/key interlock don't have much to
> > do with each other. Possible overvoltage from alternator killing
> > numerous electrical/electronic devices.

>
> The ignition modual (power transtor?) above the spark coil seemed to
> fail a bench test. Unfortunately, I'm not confident of the way a store
> clerk tested it.
> I'll look at the engine management light.
> Nehmo


I've never seen one fail. Doesn't mean yours isn't defective, though.

Also, still interested in answers to previous questions.

Nehmo 04-16-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Electrical Prob. '95 Hyundai Sonata, no fire
 
On Mar 28, 4:51 am, hyundaitech <hyundaim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 25, 7:10 pm,Nehmo<nehm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 10:20 pm, hyundaitech <hyundaim...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Mar 17, 8:24 pm,Nehmo<nehm...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > Driving down the road, the winshild wippers went very fast (although
> > > > they were off), then the engine failed.
> > > > The 100 amp fuse is blown, but now repalced it doesn't blow. Also the
> > > > stop light fuse was blown, but when I replace that, the key doesn't
> > > > come out. I pull out the fuse and the key will come out.
> > > > I'm not getting spark, and, of course, the car won't start.
> > > > The black/white wire from the ignition to the coil is hot as it should
> > > > be. Anybody with any ideas, call 913 602 6009 or post. I'm only
> > > > borowing this connection, and I have to end now.
> > > > What's my next step? What should I check next? And I can't take the
> > > > car anywhere.*I* have to fix it.
> > > > Thanks,Nehmo

>
> > > Did any of these problems exist prior to the windshield wiper problem?

>
> > > Does the check engine lamp illuminate when the key is turned to the
> > > "on" position?

>
> > > Did the air bag lamp come on?

>
> > > Wipers, engine management, stop lamps/key interlock don't have much to
> > > do with each other. Possible overvoltage from alternator killing
> > > numerous electrical/electronic devices.

>
> > The ignition modual (power transtor?) above the spark coil seemed to
> > fail a bench test. Unfortunately, I'm not confident of the way a store
> > clerk tested it.
> > I'll look at the engine management light.
> >Nehmo

>
> I've never seen one fail. Doesn't mean yours isn't defective, though.
>
> Also, still interested in answers to previous questions.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I didn't notice anything about the engine management light, but the
previous owner of the car said it was "trying" to come on. I think he
meant blinking occasionally.

I've now taken out the alternator. The local Advanced Auto (parts
store) can't test it, so I'm sending it out to test.
The retail price for an alternator is $146 + tax.

From the large fuse in the engine fuse box, a 90 amp was in there that
blew, 2 wires go out directly to, and only to, the large bolt
connector on the alternator. Are 2 wires normal? It seems one large
wire would do the job, but I suppose there is nothing wrong with 2.

However, I'm wondering if I replace it, maybe something else is wrong
and I might short out the new alternator. I need to test that ignition
module somewhere else too.

Thanks for helping me. I don't have anyone else who knows anything to
turn to. And I don't even have internet access (I'm in a library). The
phone is dead to, but a message can be left for me at 913 621 4046.
Leave the message for Nehmo.

-- Nehmo


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