Entourage Accident
 

Came home from a vacation to Ocean City, MD, today. Long story short is
that I got plowed by a tractor trailer on Rt. 13 in Delaware. He claims he
couldn't see me. The only way I could believe that is if his eyes were
closed.

Anyway, he tagged the driver's side rear bumper and turned the van sideways
while continuing the forward motion. He scraped up the side of the van to
the drivers door while pushing us sideways up the highway. Estimate he
pushed us 300' or so before he stopped.

It was about a 15 MPH impact that shattered the rear windows, ripped off
the rear bumper (well, I had to rip off the last clip holding it on to
drive). Also the left rear wheel is bent inwards at the top and outwards
towards the front of the van. The left side of the body is FUBAR.

The most amazing thing is that my son's sliding door still opens!! And of
course, no one was hurt. The cop said he only saw one other similar crash
without an injury and probably 50 WITH injuries.

Anyway, with all of our luggage, and only about 60 miles left to go to get
home, I gave it a try, and amazingly we made it (I didn't go over 40 MPH
with the falshers going the whole time).

The steering wheel is off about 20-30 degrees and I think the term is
"crabbing" for how straight the vehicle drives now. I am farily sure that
pushing us 300' messed up all four corners of the suspension, the frame is
bent too, and the body damage is severe. I would guess it will be close to
a total by the insurance company.

But we managed to drive home without an injury.

Eric

Re: Entourage Accident
 

On 2007-07-20 19:55:45 -0400, "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> said:

> Came home from a vacation to Ocean City, MD, today. Long story short is
> that I got plowed by a tractor trailer on Rt. 13 in Delaware. He claims he
> couldn't see me. The only way I could believe that is if his eyes were
> closed.
>
> Anyway, he tagged the driver's side rear bumper and turned the van sideways
> while continuing the forward motion. He scraped up the side of the van to
> the drivers door while pushing us sideways up the highway. Estimate he
> pushed us 300' or so before he stopped.
>
> It was about a 15 MPH impact that shattered the rear windows, ripped off
> the rear bumper (well, I had to rip off the last clip holding it on to
> drive). Also the left rear wheel is bent inwards at the top and outwards
> towards the front of the van. The left side of the body is FUBAR.
>
> The most amazing thing is that my son's sliding door still opens!! And of
> course, no one was hurt. The cop said he only saw one other similar crash
> without an injury and probably 50 WITH injuries.
>
> Anyway, with all of our luggage, and only about 60 miles left to go to get
> home, I gave it a try, and amazingly we made it (I didn't go over 40 MPH
> with the falshers going the whole time).
>
> The steering wheel is off about 20-30 degrees and I think the term is
> "crabbing" for how straight the vehicle drives now. I am farily sure that
> pushing us 300' messed up all four corners of the suspension, the frame is
> bent too, and the body damage is severe. I would guess it will be close to
> a total by the insurance company.
>
> But we managed to drive home without an injury.
>
> Eric

Thank God you and your family are safe, you can always replace a vehicle.

Re: Entourage Accident
 

"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns9973CAAE0D9A5Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
> Came home from a vacation to Ocean City, MD, today. Long story short is
> that I got plowed by a tractor trailer on Rt. 13 in Delaware. He claims
> he
> couldn't see me. The only way I could believe that is if his eyes were
> closed.
>

That's a story and a half Eric. Next time - don't try so hard, just to top
the rest of us story tellers here. Glad it was only vehicle damage and not
occupant damage though.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Entourage Accident
 

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in
news:b3c93$46a22bd2$a227001a$8315@ALLTEL.NET:

>
> "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
> news:Xns9973CAAE0D9A5Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
>> Came home from a vacation to Ocean City, MD, today. Long story short
>> is that I got plowed by a tractor trailer on Rt. 13 in Delaware. He
>> claims he
>> couldn't see me. The only way I could believe that is if his eyes
>> were closed.
>>
>
> That's a story and a half Eric. Next time - don't try so hard, just
> to top the rest of us story tellers here. Glad it was only vehicle
> damage and not occupant damage though.

Thanks, Mike. Yeah, when I wrote that I was still a bit "on edge".
Actually, I probably still am a bit today.

I am also worried about the insurance company dropping us. This is the
fourth accident we've had in as many years. Although only 50% of one of
accidents was found to be our fault, and the one yesterday is still pending
obviously, but it does seem like a lot to me.

Eric (driving a Mitsubishi Galant rental :-( )

Re: Entourage Accident
 

I feel for your loss of a valued Hyundai product.
Like Smee mentioned, praise God that all are safe. Not sure what ins.
company you're with, but sometimes things happen.

I'm also in pain for your driving a Galant....I experienced the same
suffering on a business trip in Miami with one- 12 days!

Steve
--
NW AZ home for sale in growing area-


http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rfs/370324491.html

http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/383472.html





"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns99748139D188DXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in
> news:b3c93$46a22bd2$a227001a$8315@ALLTEL.NET:
>
>>
>> "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9973CAAE0D9A5Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
>>> Came home from a vacation to Ocean City, MD, today. Long story short
>>> is that I got plowed by a tractor trailer on Rt. 13 in Delaware. He
>>> claims he
>>> couldn't see me. The only way I could believe that is if his eyes
>>> were closed.
>>>
>>
>> That's a story and a half Eric. Next time - don't try so hard, just
>> to top the rest of us story tellers here. Glad it was only vehicle
>> damage and not occupant damage though.
>
> Thanks, Mike. Yeah, when I wrote that I was still a bit "on edge".
> Actually, I probably still am a bit today.
>
> I am also worried about the insurance company dropping us. This is the
> fourth accident we've had in as many years. Although only 50% of one of
> accidents was found to be our fault, and the one yesterday is still
> pending
> obviously, but it does seem like a lot to me.
>
> Eric (driving a Mitsubishi Galant rental :-( )
>

Re: Entourage Accident
 

Who is your insurance company? If none of these are your fault (save 50%
for one), that shouldn't make any difference. If it does, you need to drop
them before they drop you.

Glad you and your family are safe. Now I'm curious on a couple of things:

*If the vehicle is totalled out, are you going to get another Entourage, or
similar Kia Sedona?

*If you do, are you going to try to get one of the last of the '07's, or the
first of the '08's?

Maybe getting ahead of myself, but just curious.


"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns99748139D188DXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in
> news:b3c93$46a22bd2$a227001a$8315@ALLTEL.NET:
>
>>
>> "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9973CAAE0D9A5Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
>>> Came home from a vacation to Ocean City, MD, today. Long story short
>>> is that I got plowed by a tractor trailer on Rt. 13 in Delaware. He
>>> claims he
>>> couldn't see me. The only way I could believe that is if his eyes
>>> were closed.
>>>
>>
>> That's a story and a half Eric. Next time - don't try so hard, just
>> to top the rest of us story tellers here. Glad it was only vehicle
>> damage and not occupant damage though.
>
> Thanks, Mike. Yeah, when I wrote that I was still a bit "on edge".
> Actually, I probably still am a bit today.
>
> I am also worried about the insurance company dropping us. This is the
> fourth accident we've had in as many years. Although only 50% of one of
> accidents was found to be our fault, and the one yesterday is still
> pending
> obviously, but it does seem like a lot to me.
>
> Eric (driving a Mitsubishi Galant rental :-( )

Re: Entourage Accident
 

"Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote in
news:f7tqpq02qae@enews4.newsguy.com:

> Who is your insurance company? If none of these are your fault (save
> 50% for one), that shouldn't make any difference. If it does, you
> need to drop them before they drop you.

Actually, I have one of the best companies in the area (NJ
Manufacturers). Most people wait YEARS to get in with them. In NJ,
finding a reasonable insurance company that actually pays to fix your
car RIGHT is rare.

> Glad you and your family are safe. Now I'm curious on a couple of
> things:

Thanks, so am I.

> *If the vehicle is totalled out, are you going to get another
> Entourage, or similar Kia Sedona?

Without a doubt! Although I will probably take a look at some other
minivans too, but just to reassure me that I am making the right
decision again.

> *If you do, are you going to try to get one of the last of the '07's,
> or the first of the '08's?

Did they change anything? If not, I will probably look at the leftovers
for an even better deal.

> Maybe getting ahead of myself, but just curious.

No, not thinking too far ahead of me. I've already been thinking hot
and heavy about the possibilities.

Eric

Re: Entourage Accident
 

"Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in news:Qproi.12510$ya1.6434
@news02.roc.ny:

> I feel for your loss of a valued Hyundai product.
> Like Smee mentioned, praise God that all are safe. Not sure what ins.
> company you're with, but sometimes things happen.

I am very thankful we did not get hurt. Especially after really absorbing
the accident scene.

> I'm also in pain for your driving a Galant....I experienced the same
> suffering on a business trip in Miami with one- 12 days!

We might be stuck with it for up to a month depending on what they do with
the van!! And my wife wouldn't even get in the thing, so I guess she'll be
driving my Sonata for a while and I get the POS.

Eric

Re: Entourage Accident
 

"Eric G." responding to my question about whether he was leaning towards a
2007 Hyundai Entourage / Kia Sedona, or looking at the new '08, said: "Did
they change anything? If not, I will probably look at the leftovers for an
even better deal."......

Smart. Right now, Hyundai is offering $2000 cash back, plus an additional
$1000 "loyalty bonus" if you already own one, at least in my area.

I don't know when the '08's come out, and at least regarding the Sedona, I
haven't heard of any major changes. But '08 will be year three of the
Entourage. Hyundai / Kia has shown a remarkable ability to keep updating
their products, especially as they see little fixes that need to take place.
My guess is that by year three, they have most of that stuff figured out.

But if you have been happy with the Entourage, you can't beat the deals you
get in late Summer. Do remember, though, that in a very short period of
time, you will have a one-year-old minivan, and the van's value will reflect
that.

Re: Entourage Accident
 

"Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote in
news:f7ugch0148k@enews4.newsguy.com:

> "Eric G." responding to my question about whether he was leaning
> towards a 2007 Hyundai Entourage / Kia Sedona, or looking at the new
> '08, said: "Did they change anything? If not, I will probably look
> at the leftovers for an even better deal."......
>
> Smart. Right now, Hyundai is offering $2000 cash back, plus an
> additional $1000 "loyalty bonus" if you already own one, at least in
> my area.
>
> I don't know when the '08's come out, and at least regarding the
> Sedona, I haven't heard of any major changes. But '08 will be year
> three of the Entourage. Hyundai / Kia has shown a remarkable ability
> to keep updating their products, especially as they see little fixes
> that need to take place. My guess is that by year three, they have
> most of that stuff figured out.
>
> But if you have been happy with the Entourage, you can't beat the
> deals you get in late Summer. Do remember, though, that in a very
> short period of time, you will have a one-year-old minivan, and the
> van's value will reflect that.

Well, sure it will be a MY older, and will depreciate faster, but if I can
afford it based on what insurance pays out, it will be a no-brainer for me.

As to the MY '08 being the 3rd year of production, that is not correct. My
'07 Entourage was one of the first off the Hyundai production line. We
purchased it just a year ago in July 2006. Unless you are referring to the
Sedona which could have come out as an '06 model.

Eric

Re: Entourage Accident
 

You are correct. The Sedona came out right at the beginning of '06 as an
'06 model, and it is a Sedona that I own - my third.


"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns997547191A11AXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
> "Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote in
> news:f7ugch0148k@enews4.newsguy.com:
>
>> "Eric G." responding to my question about whether he was leaning
>> towards a 2007 Hyundai Entourage / Kia Sedona, or looking at the new
>> '08, said: "Did they change anything? If not, I will probably look
>> at the leftovers for an even better deal."......
>>
>> Smart. Right now, Hyundai is offering $2000 cash back, plus an
>> additional $1000 "loyalty bonus" if you already own one, at least in
>> my area.
>>
>> I don't know when the '08's come out, and at least regarding the
>> Sedona, I haven't heard of any major changes. But '08 will be year
>> three of the Entourage. Hyundai / Kia has shown a remarkable ability
>> to keep updating their products, especially as they see little fixes
>> that need to take place. My guess is that by year three, they have
>> most of that stuff figured out.
>>
>> But if you have been happy with the Entourage, you can't beat the
>> deals you get in late Summer. Do remember, though, that in a very
>> short period of time, you will have a one-year-old minivan, and the
>> van's value will reflect that.
>
> Well, sure it will be a MY older, and will depreciate faster, but if I can
> afford it based on what insurance pays out, it will be a no-brainer for
> me.
>
> As to the MY '08 being the 3rd year of production, that is not correct.
> My
> '07 Entourage was one of the first off the Hyundai production line. We
> purchased it just a year ago in July 2006. Unless you are referring to
> the
> Sedona which could have come out as an '06 model.
>
> Eric

Re: Entourage Accident
 

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:55:45 GMT, "Eric G."
<NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote:

>Came home from a vacation to Ocean City, MD, today. Long story short is
>that I got plowed by a tractor trailer on Rt. 13 in Delaware. He claims he
>couldn't see me. The only way I could believe that is if his eyes were
>closed.
>
>Anyway, he tagged the driver's side rear bumper and turned the van sideways
>while continuing the forward motion. He scraped up the side of the van to
>the drivers door while pushing us sideways up the highway. Estimate he
>pushed us 300' or so before he stopped.
>
>It was about a 15 MPH impact that shattered the rear windows, ripped off
>the rear bumper (well, I had to rip off the last clip holding it on to
>drive). Also the left rear wheel is bent inwards at the top and outwards
>towards the front of the van. The left side of the body is FUBAR.
>
>The most amazing thing is that my son's sliding door still opens!! And of
>course, no one was hurt. The cop said he only saw one other similar crash
>without an injury and probably 50 WITH injuries.
>
>Anyway, with all of our luggage, and only about 60 miles left to go to get
>home, I gave it a try, and amazingly we made it (I didn't go over 40 MPH
>with the falshers going the whole time).
>
>The steering wheel is off about 20-30 degrees and I think the term is
>"crabbing" for how straight the vehicle drives now. I am farily sure that
>pushing us 300' messed up all four corners of the suspension, the frame is
>bent too, and the body damage is severe. I would guess it will be close to
>a total by the insurance company.
>
>But we managed to drive home without an injury.
>
>Eric

Sorry to hear about your problem, but glad all are OK. The Hyundai did
it's job in this case. I'll be heading to Ocean City at the end of
August (from Long Island NY), hope my family and my new Elantra fare
better! good luck.

Re: Entourage Accident
 

jtees4 <jtees4@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:40g7a35sv6k2ou96bvnd8bqj4nbq3ujvvb@4ax.com:

> Sorry to hear about your problem, but glad all are OK. The Hyundai did
> it's job in this case. I'll be heading to Ocean City at the end of
> August (from Long Island NY), hope my family and my new Elantra fare
> better! good luck.

Thanks. You'll be just fine I hope. Which way are you planning to go? If
you are going to hit Rt. 13 in Delaware (right after the Delaware Memorial
Bridge) be careful. The state trooper said they get 2-3 accidents PER DAY
in that spot where mine happened. If you see the Burger King on the
Northbound side, that is where my Entourage landed.

Eric

P.S. - Take the FERRY if you get the incling.

Re: Entourage Accident
 

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:27:09 GMT, "Eric G."
<NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote:

>jtees4 <jtees4@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:40g7a35sv6k2ou96bvnd8bqj4nbq3ujvvb@4ax.com :
>
>> Sorry to hear about your problem, but glad all are OK. The Hyundai did
>> it's job in this case. I'll be heading to Ocean City at the end of
>> August (from Long Island NY), hope my family and my new Elantra fare
>> better! good luck.
>
>Thanks. You'll be just fine I hope. Which way are you planning to go? If
>you are going to hit Rt. 13 in Delaware (right after the Delaware Memorial
>Bridge) be careful. The state trooper said they get 2-3 accidents PER DAY
>in that spot where mine happened. If you see the Burger King on the
>Northbound side, that is where my Entourage landed.
>
>Eric
>
>P.S. - Take the FERRY if you get the incling.

I am going to DC for the weekend, then heading to Ocean City on a
Monday morning. I have not looked at the route yet. Coming home I plan
on taking the ferry as I know it is more direct. If I end up on Rt 13
I will definitely watch out. Thanks!